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    Image of twig twig
    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    You've been doing fairly well, Ryan, but you're falling into one of the classic 'Wag traps: you, like your predecessor, consistently misinterpret the connection between engineers and execs. This is especially important at Google, where the work experience for engineers is different than the experience in other divisions of the company.

    This is not to say that bad execs and good execs have no effect on engineers, because they do -- particularly the bad ones, who can very easily spoil a development environment. But the factors that determine a "good" or "bad" exec from an engineer's point of view are frequently not the same as the factors that cause the business press to draw conclusions about their quality.

    So what did GoogNYCers really think of Armstrong or your other gossip targets? It's astonishing that in a company that employees thousands of engineers, you can't find a single decent tipster. They are out there, I am sure.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    My old roommate worked for Google, and her complaints were about the following:

    - Relentless, robotic corporate culture
    - How braindead said culture made her feel
    - Higher management pressure to party and be seen with other Googlers
    - The fact that so many other Googlers can't understand why a normal person would want to have non-work friends
    - Politics and office drama associated with zombie corporate culture and rampant social incest
    - How fucking boring it was
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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    11/18/09

    @pureblarney: Yep. I heard the same thing.

    Money aside (and it's not an inconsiderable aside), the couple times I've visited friends there (hey, free lunch), it seemed an atrocious place to work. Gave me the creeps.
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    11/18/09

    @pureblarney: I have a friend who worked there as well. After he got married, he asked if he could cut back to 11 hours a day, or if that wasn't possible, to transition into part time or flex time.

    His supervisor flipped out and questioned his loyalty (?!!?) and then started screwing with him, changing deadlines, etc until my friend quit.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    You know, while it may pay for things like food, rent, alcohol and limousines, money really *isn't* everything. For a lot of people, there is a point where no amount of money can make working in a difficult job bearable. Once you're making enough to live on, a company just offering to throw more money at you in order that you shut up and accept any amount of abuse that they heap on you just is not a very compelling offer anymore.

    I don't work at Google and I don't make a lot of money. But I have worked at other places like that, where I could have made a lot of money if I had just agreed to play their little games and given up any semblance of my own life as part of the deal. I chose to leave instead too.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    Gimme a break. The IPO was 5 years ago and the company went from 2000 to 20,000 employees since then. If people are leaving, it's because Google is no longer a start up. I'm sure the food and stuff is still wonderful, but the potential to get filthy stinking rich is not what it used to be.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    Well, taking turns driving around every city in the world taking picures of every single stretch of street has got to be a horrible way to start a Monday.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    There's probably issues finding parking in those razor scooter racks on monday mornings or something

    (please never show that photo again of the razor scooter racks at google--eyes already bled out from the first time you did it)
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    Image of HenryLovesFonzie HenryLovesFonzie
    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    I used to work at Yahoo! and have many friends at Google. I must say, they do have great benefits... but the politics and uncertainty associated with working for such a large company can be difficult.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    My job makes me cry and want to cut myself, and I can't leave because I need the tiny salary that won't even get me out of my parents' house. So Google can keep whining. And yes, I'm bitter and it could be worse. But it still sucks.
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    11/17/09

    In reply to The Eccentric Office Mrs. Twitter Helped Build
    Say what you will but I'm totally stealing the hang-stuff-salon-style-around-a-corner bit from yesterday. That's a pretty genius solution for those weird corners that always look empty. #twitter
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    11/17/09

    In reply to The Eccentric Office Mrs. Twitter Helped Build
    I somehow think an in-office DJ would get old fast.

    "Hey....HEY!... HEY, GRANDMASTER FLASH, COULD YOU GIVE YOUR PHAT BEATS A REST WHILE I'M ON THE PHONE!!!" #twitter
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    11/17/09

    In reply to The Eccentric Office Mrs. Twitter Helped Build
    I am reminded of the phrase "the Emperor has no clothes." #twitter
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    11/17/09

    In reply to The Eccentric Office Mrs. Twitter Helped Build
    It would be cool if the software project management process somehow corresponded to the architectural layout, with the deer sculptures expressing various stages.

    At the planning stage (meeting rooms), the live green deer represent the idealism of the vision and scope statement. By the time you get to the programming phase (coding cubicles), the deer have been shot and are being gutted. After testing, when a product iteration is complete (breakroom), you have the deer heads mounted on the wall.

    Or maybe the deer theme was just a quirky designer thing. #twitter
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    11/17/09

    @iplaudius: Especially since the product is as useful as plastic venison. #twitter
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    11/17/09

    In reply to The Eccentric Office Mrs. Twitter Helped Build
    egad! this is what happens when you buy all of your furnishings from urban outfitters and the moma store. #twitter
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    Image of Claire Buoyant Claire Buoyant
    11/17/09

    In reply to The Eccentric Office Mrs. Twitter Helped Build
    modern Ikea seats

    These are iconic designs from Charles and Ray Eames, you philistine. #twitter
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    11/17/09

    @Claire Buoyant: thank you for catching the Eames too #twitter
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    11/17/09

    @jimchuck: Also important: manufactured by Herman Miller. #twitter
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    Image of Claire Buoyant Claire Buoyant
    11/17/09

    @AndPreciousLittleofThat: But hey, speaking of Ikea and famous designers, Verner Panton did design a chair for Ikea, though it didn't sell well -- even in the secondary market. (Maybe people find it too derivative of Gerrit Rietveld?)
    [greg.org]
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    11/17/09

    @Claire Buoyant: Seriously. I was about to accuse someone of joking. #twitter
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    Image of ms_priestypants ms_priestypants
    11/17/09

    @Claire Buoyant: Yes, I have one in my bedroom. But the patents have run, so you can buy reproductions now. #twitter
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    11/17/09

    In reply to The Eccentric Office Mrs. Twitter Helped Build
    A DJ booth, eh? When do they start spinning revenue? #twitter
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