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    Image of croush1211 croush1211
    10/05/09

    In reply to New York Times Bites the Meat That Feeds It
    Just when I come to the realization that I need to start eating more to gain weight, the Times reminds me that I could be paralyzed for life.

    Chicken is still safe, right? And, uh... beans. And peanuts. What else is packed with protein? HALP.
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    10/05/09

    @croush1211: Sorry, dear, chicken is CHOCK FULL OF DEATH. Potentially.

    I'll have a chicken breast in a bleach bath, please.
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    Image of gawkimo gawkimo
    10/06/09

    @croush1211: I know a guy who was an USDA inspector in a chicken-processing center in Texas. His job was basically to find tumor-laden carcasses after the birds are slaughtered. He doesn't eat chicken anymore. Tumorous chicken breast, by the way, is an excellent substitute for tofu!.
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    Image of NigelAstydameia NigelAstydameia
    10/05/09

    In reply to New York Times Bites the Meat That Feeds It
    Great reporting. It will keep me off hamburgers for quite some time...
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    10/05/09

    In reply to New York Times Bites the Meat That Feeds It
    Here's the scary part. This means that Cargill probably doesn't care at this point, because they know they've got the entire-country-needs-massive-foodbanks-and-soupkitchen-supplier-as-we-head-very-deeply-into-the-greatest-depression-since-ever-contracts all hammered out
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    10/05/09

    In reply to New York Times Bites the Meat That Feeds It
    Agreed, this is a rare, meaty piece that was very well done. It cut me to the bone.
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    10/05/09

    @Lizawithazee:
    I was thinking of going that way with this, but I'm still stunned after hearing Mrs. Smitros read me most of the story yesterday.
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    10/05/09

    @Smitros: Except what I wrote is all true! And I'm never eating a hamburger again.
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    10/05/09

    In reply to New York Times Bites the Meat That Feeds It
    And that's why newspapers are still necessary, kids. That story and the accompanying photo, packed a wallop. Kudos, Times.
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    Image of Matthew_Maurice Matthew_Maurice
    10/05/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: Maybe that was the point. It doesn't take a genius to see that if a traditional newspaper wants to remain in business, if not relevant, it needs to do what blogs can't, that is long-form investigative journalism that appeals to the general public's sense of constantly getting screwed over. Voice of San Diego, a much smaller online newspaper is coming at the same problem from the opposite end.
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    Image of billybobnyc billybobnyc
    10/05/09

    In reply to New York Times Bites the Meat That Feeds It
    I haven't read the piece, but I can say this: Pre-packaged, pre-pattied hamburger meat is N-A-S-T-Y, and anyone who serves it at a cookout should not have cookouts. A lot of times, non-profits and such will hold large cookouts and serve them because they are cheap. I would gladly pay $10 for real, fresh hamburger. The pre-packaged patties give people diarrhea. That is a fact.
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    naugahydeinplainsight promoted this comment Edited by billybobnyc at 10/05/09 3:41 PM billybobnyc was starred billybobnyc was unstarred
    Image of Atilla the Bun Atilla the Bun
    10/05/09

    @billybobnyc: True, but it's not a problem just limited to pre-pattied meat. The problem is that ground beef, because it's ground-up, means the stuff that causes e-coli contamination (i.e., cow shit) gets within the product itself. Rinsing ground beef off does not get out what is within the ball of meat. With steaks and other solid beef cuts, the icky stuff can be more easily cleaned/washed off; it does not get within the cut of meat itself.
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    naugahydeinplainsight promoted this comment Edited by Atilla the Bun at 10/05/09 4:42 PM Atilla the Bun was starred Atilla the Bun was unstarred
    Image of Lymed Lymed
    10/05/09

    In reply to New York Times Bites the Meat That Feeds It
    So Cargill is not a political consultant who imploded over Hillary Clinton's campaign?
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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    10/05/09

    In reply to New York Times Bites the Meat That Feeds It
    That piece made me glad, once again, that my butcher only grinds meat to order, from cuts that you pick out.
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    Image of SaraRueful SaraRueful
    09/15/09

    In reply to Jon Landman Is New NYT Culture Editor
    The "hero" of the Jayson Blair saga was a woman who Landman foisted Blair off on to try to get him to get his shit together. She is the one who told Landman that Blair shouldn't work for the Times. Landman took the glory and the woman was demoted to copy editor, where she remains today.
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    Image of labyrinthine IS DOING THIS labyrinthine IS DOING THIS
    09/15/09

    In reply to Jon Landman Is New NYT Culture Editor
    'sup, Mister Rogers!
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    Image of Phyllis Nefler Phyllis Nefler
    09/15/09

    @labyrinthine IS DOING THIS: That picture is truly divine.
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    Image of kimsama kimsama
    09/15/09

    In reply to Jon Landman Is New NYT Culture Editor
    Wow, I'm going to estimate about -7.5 or -8.0 diopters, there. Definitely a good sign.
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    Image of labyrinthine IS DOING THIS labyrinthine IS DOING THIS
    09/15/09

    @kimsama: wow indeed.

    I look at the picture and I can't NOT see that. jeez.
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    Phyllis Nefler promoted this comment Edited by labyrinthine IS DOING THIS at 09/15/09 11:56 AM labyrinthine IS DOING THIS was starred labyrinthine IS DOING THIS was unstarred
    Image of dado dado
    08/18/09

    In reply to Angolan Simpsons, Revealed
    I don't want to know what happened to Snowball 2.
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    Image of bens bens
    08/18/09

    In reply to Angolan Simpsons, Revealed
    This looks like a t-shirt sold at a fair circa '92. You know, the one next to Bugs Bunny smoking a joint.
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    Image of CaptainFantastic CaptainFantastic
    08/18/09

    @bens: Yabba dabba doobie!
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    Image of lobstr lobstr
    08/18/09

    In reply to Angolan Simpsons, Revealed
    I'm not one to ever jump the gun on race card shit, but isn't that a little racist to Africanize cartoon characters that are otherwise somewhat ambiguously white? (I guess technically they're yellow, but culturally they appear to take on more or less white stereotypes and behaviors) .. Is it that different as if an ad touting Seinfeld reaching Angola featured all the characters in blackface? (Michael Richards puns notwithstanding)
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    Image of Nice Beaver Nice Beaver
    08/18/09

    @lobstr: I'd agree if I didn't know for a fact that (1) all Angolan little girls have beaded braids and (2) all Angolan families have crooked elephant pictures on their walls.
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    Image of nozer nozer
    08/18/09

    @Nice Beaver: The fact that it's crooked is just a reference to the Simpsons, but yes, a friend of a friend just came back from a trip to Angola and said it was pretty standard to have the elephant picture. It's sort of like those possum pictures everyone in the South has.
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    Image of SybilDisobedience SybilDisobedience
    08/18/09

    @nozer: What? I'm supposed to have a possum picture? Where do I get one?
    Just giving you a hard time (though I honestly have no idea what a "possum picture" could refer to). I'm a Southern transplant anyway.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    08/18/09

    @nozer: That wasn't a picture of a possum. You should probably get checked for rabies.
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    Image of AugustaNuberty AugustaNuberty
    07/06/09

    In reply to A Context-Free, Comment-Free Review Of Contemporary Art, With Suggestions
    This 'review' reminds me of when the frat boys used to pee on our outdoor sculptures in college, we worked hard on them, but whatevs, snarkiness always wins out I guess. Although it does make you as cynical, if not more, than the most cynical pieces in the show...
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    Image of Foster Kamer Foster Kamer
    07/06/09

    Both AugustaNuberty and pononimo: I think you guys missed my comment up above. I enjoyed some of it. And I think you, Augusta, definitely proved the point I made...


    But how does one get into the position to be able to put someone sleeping in a museum and call themselves an artist? Do you have to be embedded in the art scene? Well-established? Anyway. Maybe this makes me a conservative yokel without any kind of appreciation for the more intelligent "pleasures" of life. Or maybe it just makes me someone who went to a museum and "didn't get it."


    ..in a most salient fashion. Why account for it when you can just write me off as a "frat boy"? [True story: I'm a college dropout! He's uneducated. No wonder he can't appreciate it!] Also, if you read through the rest of the comments, you'll note the stuff I did enjoy. But what's wrong with being cynical about art? I feel like if you're unendingly sincere about it, you're probably getting hosed by the artist.


    Meanwhile, Ponomino: I'm not a journalist, and I'm not trying to be. Nor am I trying to be an art critic.


    The best comment so far came from The Boulevard of Broken Queens, who asked the more interesting question..."is it satisfying your idea of an art experience? does it fufill your personal criteria for an art object" these, apparently, were not. therefore, they do not qualify as art for you, or rather only qualify as objects which were indicated to you as art.


    That's accounting for art. And for the $12 I paid to support it, whether I enjoyed it or believed in it. I obviously believe in it enough to shell out money for it, though, so as far as sincerity goes: back the fuck up.

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