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    Hearst Is Amazingly Not Broke

    Hillary Clinton Asks North Korea to Forgive Reporters for Non-Crime

    North Korea Shock: US Reporters Admit to Slanders, Calumnies

    The Internet Screws(?) Foreign Reporting

    Reporters Hired, Fired, Mired, Tired

    Al Gore May Smooch North Korea to Save Jailed Journalists

    Current's Strategy of Silence

    Current Stays Silent as Its Reporters Stand Trial in North Korea

    No More Hero Journalists!

    Why Isn't Current Covering Its Own Reporters Arrested in North Korea?
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    Image of LoveHandles LoveHandles
    11/11/09

    In reply to Hearst Is Amazingly Not Broke
    With less staffers, perhaps Current TV will have less of a chance of getting it's staff embroiled in international nuclear affairs? #media
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    11/11/09

    In reply to Hearst Is Amazingly Not Broke
    With Drew Schutte, Conde has a smart, web-savvy guy running digital--finally. Let's hope that he, like Hearst, has a war chest. Let's also note that Conde Digital is not at 4TS and that, as surely as the luncheon seating plan, is a measure of status. #media
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    11/11/09

    In reply to Hearst Is Amazingly Not Broke
    The Ombudsman wrote a Sesame Street piece about a Sesame Street piece. Unfortunately, nobody who was offended will ever hear of it. #media
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    07/11/09

    In reply to Hillary Clinton Asks North Korea to Forgive Reporters for Non-Crime
    i hope the 2 young women are unharmed and that they come home soon, all safe and sound



    that said, they did cross a closed border. ur not supposed to do that



    also, it makes my head hurt to hear the closed the us border types going on about how they are political prisoners



    freedom of travel is a basic human right, and closing borders is wrong, but crossing closed borders is a crime in closed countries: does anyone remember east germany? the spy who came in from the cold? the whole cold war?



    so i think a non apology apology -- we're sorry we broke your rule -- please send them home is exactly right
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    07/11/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: Unless I missed something, I understood that it has never been determined whether they actually crossed the border, or whether NK guards crossed the border to China and essentially kidnapped them. There is a history of such NK cross-overs.

    In any case, I do agree that their current approach is the right one. The only one, it seems. That, and the US needs to come up with the right carrot for Kim Jong Il.
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    07/11/09

    @deardearfriend:I don't think that such a carrot exists and our sticks have been shortened (what is the undoing of a stick?) by China.



    You make a good point. The Nazis dressed as Polish soldiers to stage an attack on German troops to justify the German invasion. N. Korea has about the same credibility with me when they claim that someone crossed their border.
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    07/11/09

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart: I don't see how anyone can argue that twelve years hard labor for the infraction of crossing a closed border is an acceptable and legitimate punishment. There's no rule of law in that country and thus it's silly to say that they broke any law.

    It's also safe to say that these two journalists didn't receive a fair trial. The right to a fair trial is guaranteed by the North Korean constitution. That they were not granted one is illegal under North Korean law; thus the decision to imprison them for twelve years was not arrived at lawfully and is invalid.
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    Image of MabelChoppin MabelChoppin
    07/11/09

    In reply to Hillary Clinton Asks North Korea to Forgive Reporters for Non-Crime
    Bust they are not innocent - they broke N Korea law going in there, and they knew it. I think it was citizen journalist naivete at best, total hubris at worst. They ought to be freed, but we're kidding ourselves to call them totally innocent.
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    07/11/09

    @MabelChoppin: I have to agree with you. I wish I could remember the story in which I saw Laura's sister Lisa promoting that bizarre tactic of parking a news crew outside a place they KNEW they were not going to have access to and then getting into pointless arguments with security, but I've seen it too many times and they've all run together.



    If journos don't want to be swallowed whole by the information monster that is the internet, they need to rethink the "manufacturing" of the news that has been happening for far too long now.



    The North Koreans are paranoid to a fault. Not knowing incarceration was a possibility if they broke the rules is just ludicrous.
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    07/11/09

    @MabelChoppin:

    @if_i_only_had_a_heart:



    I agree with both of you. I'm sure most people hope they're released unharmed, but they were foolishly flouting the law of a sovereign nation that has closed its borders.


    It was good to hear Clinton refer to them as "young women" and not girls. They're NOT girls, they're adults and professionals who appear to have exercised poor judgment in this case. The little cutie-pie photos that accompany these stories only undermine any respect to which their entitled. It also underscores the idea that if you're in trouble it sure helps be a young, nice-looking woman.


    Again, thank goodness for this commenting system that creates disincentives to responding to trolls like Drunken Economist.
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    07/11/09

    @1.1.1.:



    "to which they're entitled"



    [The system froze and I was timed-out before I could correct this.]
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    07/11/09

    @PaisleyPajamas:



    ... that bizarre tactic of parking a news crew outside a place they KNEW they were not going to have access to and then getting into pointless arguments with security...



    Taken out of context, that sounds like a celebrity stakeout by the paparazzi.
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    07/11/09

    @MabelChoppin: Has it been established that they actually did this? Because you may be shocked to learn that people in power in dictatorships occasionally fib.
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    Image of PandoraSpocks PandoraSpocks
    07/10/09

    In reply to Hillary Clinton Asks North Korea to Forgive Reporters for Non-Crime
    Um. maybe one of the advantages of the blogosphere is you don't send people into these kinds of situations?
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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    07/11/09

    @PandoraSpocks: Err, or the regrettable takeaway is that for some stories, perhaps blogging isn't a sufficient enough medium to break said stories?
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    Image of ChillbearLatrigue ChillbearLatrigue
    07/10/09

    In reply to Hillary Clinton Asks North Korea to Forgive Reporters for Non-Crime
    I'm not a big H. Clinton supporter - big surprise - but this is the mother of all no-win scenarios. The piece of crap running that country sees compassion and concern as weakness and opportunity. The ideal situation is to get these women back and in such a way as to maximally embarrass this regime and not piss off China, but barring that, let's just get them home.
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    07/10/09

    @ChillbearLatrigue: Wow, second time today I must say I thoroughly appreciate your analysis of the whole situation.
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    07/10/09

    @Conchie Birdie: I'm pretty sure that we can all get behind two courageous young women that are currently residing in N. Korean hell, but thank you.
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    07/10/09

    In reply to Hillary Clinton Asks North Korea to Forgive Reporters for Non-Crime
    It's nice that the administration has found someone as 'sick, vengeful, homicidal nutjob of an autocrat' as ol' Kim to deal with him.



    Let's hope she stays on her meds tho'. Blonde & shrill usually doesn't cut it when dealing with mad azn dictators.
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    07/10/09

    In reply to Hillary Clinton Asks North Korea to Forgive Reporters for Non-Crime
    Well, Madam Secretary, if pussyfooting doesn't work, I can think of "Plan B":
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    Image of Claire Buoyant Claire Buoyant
    07/10/09

    In reply to Hillary Clinton Asks North Korea to Forgive Reporters for Non-Crime
    I don't know if this has been mentioned here already or not, but the Lee and Ling families have set up a website to seek support for and provide news about them.


    www.lauraandeuna.com
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    Image of johnny_carsick johnny_carsick
    06/16/09

    In reply to North Korea Shock: US Reporters Admit to Slanders, Calumnies
    aw hell, officer, a li'l calumny tossin' never hurt nobody.
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    Image of Little Green Frog (Wise Latina) Little Green Frog (Wise Latina)
    06/16/09

    In reply to North Korea Shock: US Reporters Admit to Slanders, Calumnies
    Wow, they have the news in Spanish too! How servicey!
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    Image of Private Hangnail Private Hangnail
    06/16/09

    In reply to North Korea Shock: US Reporters Admit to Slanders, Calumnies
    Years later, playing chess and drinking gin at the Chestnut Cafe, Lisa and Euna would think of the stick, each one knowing in their purged and death-gladdened hearts that it, a stick, was truly the last Man left in the world.
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    06/16/09

    @Private Hangnail: Sounds like a line lifted from "Skinny Legs and All"
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    06/16/09

    @Dickens_Ghost: I was going for 1984 but, hell, I'll take what I can get.
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    Image of Mount_Prion Mount_Prion
    06/16/09

    In reply to North Korea Shock: US Reporters Admit to Slanders, Calumnies
    Guys, the stick is only there to distract us from the real truth.


    Follow the gourd!

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    Image of CaptainFantastic CaptainFantastic
    06/16/09

    In reply to North Korea Shock: US Reporters Admit to Slanders, Calumnies
    Coincidentally, hurling salamanders and tossing calamari is legal, and actually encouraged, in North Korea.


    In all seriousness, can't we just drop the Allstate insurance guy into southeastern China with a small group of highly trained and good-looking dudes, like they do on TV?

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