<![CDATA[Gawker: debbie nathan]]> http://tags.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/gawker.com.png <![CDATA[Gawker: debbie nathan]]> http://gawker.com/tag/debbienathan http://gawker.com/tag/debbienathan <![CDATA[Kurt Eichenwald antagonist Debbie Nathan...]]> Kurt Eichenwald antagonist Debbie Nathan writes that the former New York Times reporter "not only gave money to a child pornographer, but did business with him and even signed on to an illegal porn website as a member and administrator, documents unsealed yesterday in a federal criminal proceeding in Nashville reveal. He claims in one court document, he only 'posed' as a pedophile." Three predictions: Things are going to get a lot worse for Kurt Eichenwald. Debbie Nathan is going to get sued. We are still going to feel icky about this whole thing. [Counterpunch]

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<![CDATA[Why No One Wants To Write About Kurt Eichenwald]]> Today the New York Times picks up on a story about their former reporter Kurt Eichenwald, one that's been drifting around the internets for a week or so. It began with a piece on Counterpunch by Debbie Nathan. Here's the Times's hedging-some-bets opening: "A former New York Times reporter who wrote an article in late 2005 about a teenager who operated a pornographic Web site may have sent more money to the young man than he had previously acknowledged, according to people familiar with sealed documents filed with a court in Tennessee."

Now, we didn't pick up on Debbie Nathan's story last week either, because her piece didn't name a dollar figure. So we thought: Paypal? Porn sites? Okay, so in the course of learning stuff for his story about child pornography on the internet, or in advance of working on the story, he sent $19.99 to a bunch of porn sites. Go figure. (Please. What American hasn't Paypaled money to a porn site, after all?)

Now the Times coughs up a dollar figure for this transaction: $1100. This comes from the same people who are "familiar" with the sealed documents. So, that could be true!

And that's more money. That's interesting!

But really there's another reason we can't stand writing about Kurt Eichenwald, and we're probably not alone. It's the people who email us. Like so:

On 8/3/07, Mike Murphy wrote:

Hey, if you folks are bored with dumping on Eichenwald, let me know. Nothing from you guys all week, even though there was a lot to snark about. Here is the latest from those in the know:
http://www.generationq.net/articles/Justin-Berry-Sex-Lies-and-Videotape.html

The description of that website as being written by someone "in the know" is at least accurate in one sense; the proprietor is surely involved in one way or another with some ongoing prosecution. Or at least his friends are. We've read the stuff on there before and, yeah, never again.

Which is too bad. The stuff that's verifiably true IS interesting! The stuff that's not is just scary.

And our correspondent Mike Murphy, who seems like a very nice guy, by the way, whatever his real name is, is very busy disseminating stuff about Eichenwald: he hits all the weblogs, from Texas Monthly's to Jossip.

Check what happens in the comments on this thread over on journalist Daniel Radosh's site. Daniel picked up Debbie's piece last week, and next thing you know, people are writing about Tim Richards and how Kurt Eichenwald put innocent people in jail and blah blah crazy conspiracy land.

And so we never ever ever want to write about any of this ever again. What's most annoying is that we're against the hysteria about internet porn, and against innocent people going to jail and all that. And we figure there's gotta be at least more than one good story in all this. But is it worth the disgusting hassle?

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<![CDATA[Debbie Nathan Rewrites Kurt Eichenwald]]> Today at Counterpunch (subscription only, hence the handy partial guide that follows), reporter Debbie Nathan retells the Justin Berry narrative. It's another version of the story of the teen hustler turned adult pornographer turned government witness that Kurt Eichenwald told in the New York Times in December, 2005—a retelling she undertook as his was constituted from what she calls "deficient reporting." This will undoubtedly incite Eichenwald into some lawyerly frenzy.

Nathan and Eichenwald have positions on opposite sides of an underpinning debate, which is what really fuels this fracas. From his point of view, Debbie Nathan is in league with pedophiles! She has this crazy idea that there's a hysteria in the U.S. about child sex predators. And also from his point of view, Kurt Eichenwald, whose employers at Conde Nast surely aren't loving this, is exposing a massive secret internets-based network of adults who prey on children everywhere. "Every webcam in every child's room in America should be thrown out today," as Eichenwald told Oprah. Child porn is a "$20 billion-dollar business," he told the House of Representatives Committee on Energy and Commerce.

From her version to his, there are many differences in detail, narrative, and the meaning of events. Nathan's question is this:

Who had turned Justin from being a "happy kid" for whom "life was going well" and "everything was great"—as he would later tell Congress and Oprah Winfrey—into a "pretty messed up kid"?
Instead of continuing with the theme of Justin Berry being turned out by this well-organized world-wide predator net, Nathan emphasizes Justin's sex business with his father, go figure, and his oddly-ignorant therapist-mother, and most of all his real-world friends in Bakersfield.
Eichenwald noted that when [Justin's girlfriend] Michelle told Justin to stop the camwhoring, she was contravened by insidious online predators, who cajoled with treacly blandishments such as, "Just try and remember, Justin, that she may not love you, but most of us in your chat room, your friends, love you very much."

What Eichenwald doesn't reveal is that according to chat logs Justin's actual friends—his age peers in Bakersfield—were pressuring him much more intensely.

Like in December, 2002, when Berry typed to his girlfriend:
"Michelle, I'm whoring to help out some friends. It's the only way I can think of how to get that much money instantly... it's a job, and I enjoy it... I guess you don't see what I'm trying to accomplish with my cam."
And after Justin met Eichenwald, his chat logs, produced in court, according to Nathan, showed that he still hustled online—and that he claimed to be a minor when chatting with adults.

But there are totally pedophiles out there, no mistake about it.

Not long before he turned 19, Justin joined Greg Mitchel in Virginia, where Mitchel ran a Sonic hamburger franchise. Teens hung around in the summer, and one, whom we will call David, was 14. Sometime in May or June, Mitchel began encouraging David to make videos of himself masturbating, using Mitchel's recording equipment. Eichenwald would later write in the Times that during the same period he had just contacted Justin and was communicating with him only online. However, in an audiotaped interview done of David by a private investigator employed by lawyers for one of the defendants charged after Eichenwald's piece was published, David says Eichenwald also was talking to Justin by phone. David describes grabbing the phone at least once, and chatting with Eichenwald. Back then, David, Justin and Greg Mitchel were unaware of Eichenwald's true identity and that he was a New York Times reporter. "We all didn't know his real name," David says on the tape. "All of us knew him as... Roy."
In the aftermath of the whole experience, which was surely intense at best:
Eichenwald told Congress... "There were images I couldn't get out of my head when the lights went out." One image may have been of Justin in a legal pose, first displayed on his website after he turned state's evidence and not removed until about the time he gave his nationally televised congressional testimony. The image - a photo - shows him looking pensive, anxious, in sunglasses and shirtless. Viewers who click under the picture are transferred to MyLiveWebCam.com/Teen-Cams. Justin implores them to enter and register. By so doing, they can "vote" for him. But they must act soon because he is already 19, and soon will be too old for the election.

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<![CDATA[Eichenwald Defamation Suit: It Is On]]> While no one had heard a peep yet today about former Times reporter Kurt Eichenwald's threatened $10-million defamation suit against reporter Debbie Nathan, including, as of this afternoon, Ms. Nathan's attorney, we hear it is so ready to go. The complaint will be filed in Dallas, in either the state or federal court. Debbie Nathan is being advised by the deep-voiced Victor Kovner (right), who's represented Village Voice Media and Wenner Media; he's also offered her advice regarding Eichenwald in their previous tanglings, though he may not represent her in the action. Eichenwald is being represented by Tim Perkins, of Underwood, Perkins & Ralston, which is not in New York and therefore we know nothing about it.

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