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Inhaler
03/23/09

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Pictured from L to R: Miranda, Samantha, Carrie, & Charlotte.
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Shumina
03/23/09

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The fuck happened to this place???
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Wrapitup
03/23/09

@Shumina: But look at all the shiny new Girl Power. Don't you feel inspired?
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Wrapitup
03/23/09

@Shumina: P.S: See you at Movieline.
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JudgeFudge
03/23/09

In reply to Diablo Cody Posse Craves, Hates Your Attention
I heard that Joe Esterhaus and Akiva Goldsmith have seen eacother naked too.
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gwendemarco
03/23/09

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It still ends up with girls braiding each other's hair and talking about boys. Boring.
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Wrapitup
03/23/09

@gwendemarco: A Defamer regular! Thank god you're here. And thank you for your comment.
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solipsister
03/23/09

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I find their ambition and mutual support inspiring. What I don't find inspiring are their movies! I guess mediocrity loves company.
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Steverino Begins
03/23/09

@solipsister: Bingo.
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BadUncle
03/23/09

In reply to Diablo Cody Posse Craves, Hates Your Attention
Somehow, I don't see Shepard Fairey doing "Diablo-Has-A-Posse" stickers.
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VedetteHope
03/23/09

In reply to Diablo Cody Posse Craves, Hates Your Attention
Liz Meriwether is a hilarious and brilliant writer (I taught her when she was an undergrad, and she was really the best and dreamiest student ever). And in fact, for what it's worth, she is adorable in person. And Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist was delightful. So was The Squid and the Whale. I'm not sure where the "vapid" and "mediocre" are coming from. Perhaps y'all are used to higher fare at the CIneplex?
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Wrapitup
03/23/09

@VedetteHope: The Squid and the Whale was written by a man: Noah Baumbach. One of these 'writers' appeared in it as: Grad Student.

And for the love of God, please do not compare twee hipster shit like Nick and Norah to something sad, deep and actually intelligent like The Squid and the Whale, no matter how "dreamy" and "adorable" your former student is (and btw, yuck).
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allyzay
03/23/09

@VedetteHope: calling your students dreamy is really creepy
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skahammer
03/23/09

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pressure to look photogenic in a way that is not demanded of male screenwriters

I'm no expert on screenwriters, but the few I've known (male or female) would welcome any "pressure" on anything from anyone, since their whole gig is getting people's attention and, given the nature of the market, that task is a constant uphill struggle for them.

"Pressure" means that at least someone is paying attention and maybe even cares, which I imagine beats ignorance or apathy by a factor of, oh, fifty zillion or so.

Sometimes it seems as though complaining about the attention one gets is just a way of emphasizing that one gets a lot of attention (and nevertheless wants more).
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SeaBassTian
03/23/09

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You have to give DS credit for this quote: Some in the room tittered - maybe even Twittered. That made me laugh!
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MrRewrite
03/23/09

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no talent; it's who you know and who you blow. the end.
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jrhys
03/23/09

@MrRewrite: You sound like some kid's bitter divorced dad in a bad fauxindie redemption movie. Which means any minute now you'll meet a cute waitress and you guys will write the great American screenplay together as you regain your faith in love - and yourself.
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Arceus
03/23/09

@jrhys: And you sound like your cliched, stereotypical feminazi.
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Calraigh
03/23/09

@Arceus: And you sound like your cliched, stereotypical, dyed-in-the-wool, arsehole.

If we all sing together, we could make up a ''Choir of People Everybody Hates The Most In The World''! ''
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metoometoo
03/23/09

@Arceus: Um, really? Because there are a lot of cliches and stereotypes about "feminazis," and I don't see how jrhys's comment fell into any of them.
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Arceus
03/23/09

@metoometoo: It's not just this comment, she's spewing all over this thread.
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metoometoo
03/23/09

@Arceus: Personally, I wouldn't define a mild defense of women writers, or an absence of uncalled for animosity, as "spewing."

Accusing commenters who fail to express a general hatred toward women of being "feminazis"...that, I might refer to as "spewing."
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Arceus
03/23/09

@metoometoo: What about paranoically interpreting absolutely every little thing as sexist or an attack on/hatred directed towards women like you do? How utterly tiresome it must be to be you.
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metoometoo
03/23/09

@Arceus: Reducing the careers of four successful women writers to: "no talent; it's who you know and who you blow. the end" is sexist and an attack on/hatred directed towards women. That is not my paranoia, that is an easy, obvious interpretation of a straightforwardly offensive and insulting statement.

jrhys responded to that statement with a rather lighthearted retort, and you called her a feminazi, and thus, painted yourself as probably at least somewhat sexist.

Not every little thing is sexist or an attack on women, but some things are. Pointing that out doesn't make someone a feminazi, nor does it make one paranoid or tiresome.
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eatsshootsleaves
03/23/09

@metoometoo: The Limbaughian word "feminazi" is kind of a sexist thing to say all by itself.
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Arceus
03/24/09

@eatsshootsleaves: LOL. By that logic, the word feminist is sexist by definition as well.
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eatsshootsleaves
03/25/09

@Arceus: Yeah. That's "logic."

The word "feminist" means someone who advocates for woman's equality.

The word "feminazi" is a word that belittles and insults people with this goal by comparing them to followers of Hitler.

Come on now.
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eatsshootsleaves
03/22/09

In reply to Diablo Cody Posse Craves, Hates Your Attention
Maybe I don't see it because I'm a heterosexual woman, but this:

"We talked about our bowels, and I was like, 'O.K., we're best friends now.'"

Doesn't seem like the comment of someone overly concerned about being presented as sexy.
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jasonelias
03/23/09

@eatsshootsleaves: Activia is really bringing people together.
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metoometoo
03/22/09

In reply to Diablo Cody Posse Craves, Hates Your Attention
The tone of the article is annoying, but I didn't find the subjects annoying at all. When you are an even moderately attractive girl or young women, you will inevitably be praised and rewarded for your looks. When you lose weight, or get a more flattering hairstyle, or wear sexier, more revealing clothes, you get positive attention. People are nicer to you, and they pay more attention to you. When you are a young women in a male-dominated field, this phenomenon becomes even more pronounced. When you are constantly rewarded for playing up your sexuality and disparaged when you fail to meet the stringent demands that society places on a young woman's appearance, it is inevitably going to shape your behavior, to an extent. It's completely unreasonable to hold that against women who are legitimately smart and funny and hardworking.
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jrhys
03/22/09

@metoometoo: Very well said!
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Senor_Macho_Solo
03/22/09

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The blond is ugly because she has glasses. There's no way to make her look good.
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crashedpc - Haifisch
03/23/09

@Senor_Macho_Solo: What if... *gasp* You take those glasses off???
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El Matardillo
03/22/09

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The one in the plaid shirt and glasses is cute.
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CaptainFantastic
03/22/09

@El Matardillo: Yes indeedy.
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Weegee's bored
03/22/09

In reply to Diablo Cody Posse Craves, Hates Your Attention
I don't mean to be picky, argumentative, or unkind, but by what standards are these women considered gorgeous?
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eatsshootsleaves
03/22/09

@Weegee's bored: By what standards are these women NOT considered gorgeous?
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Motoko Kusanagi
03/22/09

@eatsshootsleaves: They look like your average junior high teachers out for a few White Zins after a lively Book Night.
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CaptainFantastic
03/23/09

@Motoko Kusanagi: Where did you go to junior high? I want to go to there.
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hesperid
03/23/09

@Weegee's bored: Oh, well, duh... They are held by the standard held against every woman: supermodel/playboy sex goddess. OBVIOUSLY. Was there another standard? I mean, not to be picky or unkind, but come on, there's only supermodel hot or completely ugly troll, right? So, then, no one should consider these women attractive... since they're not supermodels. I'm not being picky! Promise! No argument here!!
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ambitious
03/23/09

@hesperid: Right . . . So, anyone who isn't a troll is automatically gorgeous? Is saying they're not gorgeous really maligning them?

I think it's very important that we take all statements about their absolute unequivocal gorgeousness very personally. How they look is the most important thing in the world to all of us. Best to be extremely precise.
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