They may be all ginned up with outrage, but these are people who've been conditioned for generations to listen politely to literally anyone talking to them.
Well, they are next door neighbors to the Canadians. It's bound to have an effect on them.
@vampirebris: In all seriousness, can you please explain Michelle Bachmann to us? How in the world did she get elected? Do people in MN really see how crazy she is, or is she all set for re-election?
@pinkteapot: I think a nutjob like MB gets elected by coalescing factions (taxes. guns. abortion) who are each willing to overlook incompetence and insanity because of their single-issue politics. When combined with a conservative-leaning district like the 6th, you've got Michele Bachmann.
@pinkteapot: I went to college in Stearns County and I left before she got in, and I seriously cannot explain it. It's always been Republican, but Kennedy was nothing like her. There have to be enough crazies in St. Cloud, which is why they won't build the light rail out there after all
I think that the Minnesota State Fairgrounds are kind of a political Green Zone for the state. There is political crap all over and everyone is pretty decent and nice to each other about it. Years ago when Paul Wellstone was there a guy next to me told him "Your politics represent everything I hate, but you seem like real damn smart, nice guy." and Wellstone freaking hugged him.
@robotwaste: totally. this is one of the most rational, polite tacks I've seen any politician take. Of course it doesn't hurt that his audience is polite but yes, very well done, Senator Franken.
I think the main difference here--and this is a big one--is that Franken actually knows how to talk to real, non-politician people. It helps that the crowd is made up of people who, as Fox News brainwashed as they may be, can't in their heart of hearts shut down another legitimate Minnesotan in what's become the typical "town hell" fashion.
And I think another huge thing he does right here is he talks about Minnesota's progressive stance on healthcare, so he's pulling these people in on something they presumably benefit from already and, therefore, support.
But at the end of the day, Michelle Bachmann aside, Minnesota conservatives are some of the softest around. Its history with agriculture means that, yeah, you have a good many salt of the earth types--social conservatives, basically--wandering around, but they are also in line with working class politics, and are more inclined to eschew the social conservatism if it means liberal progress in other areas that more closely affect their lives.
@Banjo-Sea Kitten: I'd take a comedian for president any day. We've tried misogynists, murderers, the brain dead, cowboys, average joes...It's time for some comedy.
What the hell is this bull? There listening and talking about things calmly?!?! Pfftt.... stupid people. Oh, and Tea Bag shirt wearing lady's Mom is adorable. And clearly is just as confused as I am.
See I was right yesterday. You treat crazies like the rabid hyenas they are and you treat reasonable folks with the same degree of respect and dignity they show you.
Damn, damn, damn. I have hope for humanity after this. Al, you go. Please, media, get him on the TV talking about healthcare. He gently and effectively shut the Fargo Tea Bag lady down. This is progress right here. This is democracy in action. Yes, it was booooring but kudos to those people for hanging in with him too.
The highlight is around 7:10 when Sunglasses McOverhishead tries to void Franken's El Paso/Mcallen comparison by asking if immigrants skew it. Franken's reply: "I told you, but they have the exact same demographic as El Paso, which does it for half the cost. So, I was... I don't know if you remember my saying it, but that was significant."
@Inescapeable Picnic: Well, Fox News told him that immigrants are the problem, so it was a reasonable question. I have a feeling he did remember but wasn't totally clear on the word "demographic."
Norm Coleman just called in a "stop payment" order on a certain $2,500 check while muttering, "If you're not going to call him a Nazi, you're not getting your money, bitch."
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And I think another huge thing he does right here is he talks about Minnesota's progressive stance on healthcare, so he's pulling these people in on something they presumably benefit from already and, therefore, support.
But at the end of the day, Michelle Bachmann aside, Minnesota conservatives are some of the softest around. Its history with agriculture means that, yeah, you have a good many salt of the earth types--social conservatives, basically--wandering around, but they are also in line with working class politics, and are more inclined to eschew the social conservatism if it means liberal progress in other areas that more closely affect their lives.
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Or, for that matter, on any TV that makes money off of the things they show. Which is all of them. Gotta love that capitalism.
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And how cute is Tea Bag's mama?
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