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kityglitr
11/20/09

In reply to Glee: Don't Stand So Close to Us
Normally, I'd be right there with you in hating all the schmaltz, but I've had a rough week and Glee seems to give my psyche just what it needs to feel better. I was so ready to burst into tears by the time they sang the Bill Withers song, I didn't care that it was cheesy (and yes, Mercedes is a force to be reckoned with, truly). Broke my heart. With rainbows. Unicorn infested rainbows. With Neil Patrick Harris on top. You guys, this show is the best.
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MessiahsHandle
11/19/09

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Wow, Glee went there last night! There were more than two times when I nearly fell out of my chair...the father-daughter scene...ouch! that's some pretty raw stuff....(Finn's mom rocks! tho...) and the suzy pepper - rachel encounter in the bathroom....did she just summarize my love troubles in two lines or less?
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gilner001
11/19/09

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I would have killed a someone at work to have heard Kurt sing "I Honestly Love You."
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registered
11/19/09

@gilner001: Well. I wish they had shown it. No need to go postal about it.
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Hiroine Protagonist
11/19/09

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If this show made Quin suddenly decide to get an abortion - I'd gay marry it.
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kthnxbai
11/19/09

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"We don't see straight boys and gay boys have platonic friendships on TV very often, so it would be a nice change of pace."

You know, it definitely would, but I was slightly disappointed that there was a unrequited love aspect to this friendship.

It made me wince a little since this is exactly why there aren't more friendships of this kind and why some straight guys don't give an iota of kindness or respect to their gay classmates -- because they're afraid they'll, like, totally gay crush homo out on them or something. Le Sigh.

Heartbreak Hotel for sure.
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Baroness
11/19/09

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Finn's mom being so kind and loving, in contrast to Quinn's awful parents, was unexpectedly moving.

Still, I'm feeling worse and worse for Finn- he's having so much pressure put upon him, and he's clearly a good-hearted guy, if not bright. Yet the writers dragging out this story arc where Quinn still hasn't told him the truth is getting harder to watch. I liked Quinn's archetypal mean girl Cheerio persona, but the more it drags out it's just sadistic towards Finn.

I get the strong feeling that the pregnancy gimmicks (Quinn and Terri) were melodramatic devices written before the show was a hit, on its own strong merits- they're sort of overkill and unfun, especially Terri's ludicrous plotline.

Glee just has a good fun heart, I really enjoy it for its unironic joy in music, its earnestness. That's why they're geeks I suppose, the lack of snark. But that's what makes the show so enjoyable too.
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pureblarney
11/19/09

@Baroness: Agreed with all of the above. And the added dash of absurdity and sarcasm alongside the earnestness is why it works so well. And maybe a teeny tiny cynical streak. Which is why grown-ups adore it!
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markscottmusic
11/19/09

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Favorite line of the night, Kurt noting that Finn is so stupid "he cheats off a girl who thinks the square root of four is rainbows..." (but he still loves him anyway... gosh and who wouldn't!).
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alicarney83
11/19/09

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"i have to go or they'll think i'm pooping"

a.maz.ing.
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registered
11/19/09

@alicarney83: You know, in this silly little show, that was the most authentic line uttered by a teenage boy meeting his girlfriend's parents.
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alisonepeters
11/19/09

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I loved that Finn said he had too much 'pop' when he stood up at the table to go to the bathroom. Someone did their Ohio-terminology homework!
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pureblarney
11/19/09

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Ditch the bitch and make the switch--

It takes a geigh to summarize Glee well, and that's an example. Thank you, Lovely Brian!

But at the end of the episode, we felt like we got our money's worth without her.

Speak for yourself! I was missing my Jane Lynch like it was a vitamin I'd forgotten to take. Fortunately, watching her show Fiddy how to fluff throw pillows on Conan was almost enough.
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intime
11/19/09

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I loved, loved, loved this show, but almost starting gagging when Finn started singing "Your Havin' My Baby." The fact that Quinn seemed to like the song was reason alone for her parents to kick her out of their house!
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lilyHaze
11/19/09

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I really didn't like Mercedes rant at Puck. Is she under the impression that Finn is knowingly pretending to be father of Quinn's child?

Kurt and Rachel are awesome and the actors behind them can act the shit out of them. It's really difficult to believe in the sheer stupidity of Finn, but Cory is awesome at playing him nuanced. Mercedes and Quinn are good characters, but the actresses aren't the best.
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ms_priestypants
11/19/09

@lilyHaze: I think that the writers are going for the "wise black woman" thing with Mercedes, which is unfortunate since she barely gets any character development time (even the episode where she had a crush on Gayby Kurt was painted with a bit of a broad brush stroke). I'd like to know more about her- big girl, only black student we see regularly in a mostly white midwestern school, I'm not saying it has to be a remake of Precious but there is rich soil for her to grow in as a person.

And yes, I do know this is a tv show.
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secretagentman
11/19/09

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I did cry at the ending but *Frankenteen did a horrific job with
" I'll Stand By You", which made me find the Chrissy Hynde version and listen to it ten times.
Babygay Kurt is begging for heartbreak.
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KikiCanuck
11/19/09

@secretagentman: "Zombie-I'll Stand By You" really just made me want to hear a Mercedes-led "Mystery Achievement." Consider this the beginning of my letter-writing campaign.
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AngriestGeek
11/19/09

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This was soooo much better than last week for so many reasons. Progress in the pregnancy storyline, Emma and Terri returned with their crazy and most of all RETURN OF THE VOICEOVERS! Yes, Sue was missing, but that's it.

And how can he have a history of teen girl crushes, but not one boy?
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DahlELama
11/19/09

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Come on, you didn't enjoy any of the inspirational music? Man, that is bleak. I cried from "I'll Stand By You" (which I unabashedly love) straight through "Lean On Me" (which I will somewhat abashedly be purchasing on iTunes). All in all, very much enjoyed last night's episode, except for the reminder that Will has still not seen Terri's stomach which requires such a suspension of disbelief that it makes me want to kick the wall and leave scuff marks like I did as an angry child.
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willwriteforfood
11/19/09

@DahlELama: Yeah, I'm right there with you. She's now, what, five months along? And he's NEVER seen her nekkid? While living in the house with her? I'm just going to try to ignore that plotline and concentrate on the kiddies. And I got teary at Lean on Me too. How could you not, after the scene with Quinn crying her eyes out, begging her father to be her dad again? Anyone who didn't is a cold-hearted bastard.
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registered
11/19/09

@DahlELama: Agreed. I know we only tune in for the song and dance stuff, but that storyline is hopeless. A man who has not seen his wife naked in (what is it - four?) months is unlikely to have knocked her up in the first place. The writers are insulting the audience.

Same goes for Finn believing he managed to impregnate Quinn when he's never had sex with her.
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DahlELama
11/19/09

@registered: I actually have much less of a problem with the Finn storyline; the more I interact with or read stuff written by teenagers in America, the less hope I have for their future. At dinner, however, it did seem a little too glaringly obvious when she didn't pipe up with the same "we didn't have sex" as he did.
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pureblarney
11/19/09

@DahlELama: Well at least the writers had a conversation along the lines of "Oh shit-- they're married, aren't they? Make something up about a skin condition!" I mean, it still gives me a headache, but it's not quite as ricockulous as it had been.
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lilyHaze
11/19/09

@DahlELama: Teens are told a lot lies to prevent them from having sex. Some abstinence only courses teach children that birth control is basically ineffective. An alarmingly large amount of people are very ignorant of STDs (particularly when it comes to non-vaginal sex).
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DahlELama
11/19/09

@lilyHaze: Yes, hence my previous statement about why I find the Finn storyline more believable than the other one.
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DahlELama
11/19/09

@pureblarney: Yeah, it was definitely a step in the right direction, but she's been "pregnant" for waaay too long for that to satisfy me.
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Baroness
11/19/09

@DahlELama: Just seeing Terri gives me hives and blisters on my stomach too. She and her storyline are by far the worst thing about this show, which I've grown awfully fond of.
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DahlELama
11/19/09

@Baroness: It's a shame, too, because back when I used to watch Boston Public, Jessalyn Gilsig was one of my favorites, and I even liked her on Heroes. Now, I've just become accustomed to cringing when she's onscreen.
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