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RonMwangaguhunga
07/29/09

In reply to Roger Stone Would Like to Remind You That Eliot Spitzer Slept With Hookers
Stone (Eew) is not only at the top of that VF list, but he is most probably also emitting a viscous liquid on the page.
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BlinkyMcChuck
07/29/09

In reply to Roger Stone Would Like to Remind You That Eliot Spitzer Slept With Hookers
Stone's outrage smacks of jealousy. He wants some of that Spitzer action, I bet. All you have to do is look at these photos.
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HurtsSoGood
07/29/09

In reply to Roger Stone Would Like to Remind You That Eliot Spitzer Slept With Hookers
If it is actually true, then let me just give a big "fuck you" shout-out to Roger Stone for sticking us New Yorkers with that incompetent half-wit David Paterson, and the next Republican governor (Rudy?) we'll probably get as a result. I'm sure Gov. Spitzer would have done a way better job dealing with the budget problems in our state, and would have had that asswipe Pedro Espada ground into a fine pink powder.
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flossy
07/29/09

In reply to Roger Stone Would Like to Remind You That Eliot Spitzer Slept With Hookers

What's that, Roger Stone? Crooked politicians something something? Sorry, I was just distracted by your RICHARD NIXON TATTOO.
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daveyjonesisdead
07/29/09

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The Mann Act is about woman? Law-making is complicated.
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Hydroceph
07/29/09

In reply to Bloomberg Using the 'One-Way Ticket Home' Trick to Ship Out Homeless Folk
the 'liberal' northern California college town i grace with my presence has been doing this for years. Transients are given a bus ticket to the next town up the pike, which happens to have all the soup kitchens, shelters, etc. Heaven forefend anything like that be located where they might have a determinetal impact on property values.
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Pope John Peeps II
07/29/09

In reply to Roger Stone Would Like to Remind You That Eliot Spitzer Slept With Hookers
As long as Spitzer keeps his head down and keeps on working hard, he can redeem himself. I never personally gave a crap about his offenses, and I think a lot of other people feel the same.

Roger Stone on the other hand, can never stop being Roger Stone, so that's a pretty fucking hideous price to pay.
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daveyjonesisdead
07/29/09

@Pope John Peeps II: Spitzer's personality is what cost him the governorship - someone with even just a smidgen of humility could have survived. It's that personality that will block any return or redepemption.
And don't forget - he screwed up Albany politics even beyond its usual SNAFU state with Troopergate. If it hadn't been the hookers, it's quite likely he would have been brought down by that.
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lacieca01
07/29/09

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If there were a Mannboob Act, Stone would be put away for life.
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Pope John Peeps II
07/29/09

@lacieca01: Did you just... insult someone? *gasp*
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DahlELama
07/29/09

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Think my avatar will get me a shout-out in that Vanity Fair piece? Hey, I'm doing my part.
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daveyjonesisdead
07/29/09

@DahlELama: Who is the avatar? Definitely looks familiar.
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DahlELama
07/29/09

@daveyjonesisdead:

http://gawker.com/5146255/new-york-great-for-hookers

You can actually pinpoint the exact moment where I stole my avatar.
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daveyjonesisdead
07/29/09

@DahlELama: Oh, Because it reminded me of the Rubber Sisters.
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yourfriendandneighbor
07/29/09

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I love a post that begins with "Ha!"
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resipsaloquacious
07/29/09

In reply to Bloomberg Using the 'One-Way Ticket Home' Trick to Ship Out Homeless Folk
A friend of mine who was a psychiatry intern at Bellevue told me that cities and towns all over the northeast have been doing something similar to New York for years. If a crazy or other undesirable person came rolling into the town/city, he/she would get picked up and purchased a bus or train ticket to the Port Authority or Penn Station/Grand Central. Eventually, usually without fail, these travellers find their way to Bellevue.
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minou
07/29/09

@resipsaloquacious: Bangor, Maine has a disproportionately large transient population for pretty much the same reason -- it's the last stop on the Greyhound. Lots of former prisoners, too. "Relocation" amounts to money for a bus ticket to as far away as possible.
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son of spam
07/29/09

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Sting looks like shit in that picture.
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yetimike
07/29/09

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...Not that all homeless people suffer mental illness, of course! Also I was homeless for very brief while -- 2 1/2 months -- in NYC in the early '90s.

I say that to keep it real.
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yetimike
07/29/09

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Before Reagan (almost) completely defunded it, this country used to have a national mental health system.

It was flawed, but it existed, and my feeling is that so many of the homeless the last 25+ years would be far better served by actual therapy rather than the bus ticket kind you refer to here....
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DaveCrabtree
07/29/09

@yetimike: Reagan had nothing to do with the number of homeless people requiring mental health services. In the early '70s the combination of outrage at the horrific conditions of mental institutions in this country (mostly run by state and local governments) and the view that even the seriously mentally ill (e.g., schizophrenics) could be treated on an out-patient basis resulted in a move to deinistitutionalize patients. It didn't take long for a lot of these patients to drop through the cracks of what little infrastrucure was put in place to care for them and to end up on the streets.

That being said, New York and other large cities made more of an effort to help, so these patients (maybe being crazy but not being stupid) flocked to the cities from surburban and rural areas. It was always assumed by New Yorkers that their travel costs were paid by someone at the other end who was trying to get rid of them.

Those of you old enough to remember New York in the '70s know exactly what I'm talking about. Reagan had nothing to do with it.
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FormerEnglishMajor
07/29/09

@yetimike: Look up "Willowbrook" if you need a reminder that it was the 1970s, and not the Reagan era, that saw de-institutionalization. It's what made Geraldo Rivera (the story, not the institution, though of course tough to tell the difference).
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aftercancer
07/29/09

@yetimike: @yetimikem DaveCrabtree, formerenglishmajor

Okay, you're all right to a degree. deinstitutionalization was a combination of things. Willow brook was definitely part of it as was the movement by "higher functioning" patients working as self advocates. BTW I hate using the phrase higher functioning but it is the most descriptive. There is no doubt that there were people in institutions who did not need to be there. Unfortunately the money that was supposed to go to serve those who were released from institutions did not come and that is where Reagan comes in.

The plans for deinstitutionalization included an increase in funding for Community Mental Health Centers and continued federal government support for such programs. But this ran counter to the financial goals of the Reagan administration, to reduce federal spending, reduce social programs, and transfer responsibility of many if not most government functions to the individual states. So, the law signed by President Carter was rescinded by Ronald Reagan on August 13, 1981. In accordance with the New Federalism and the demands of capital, mental health policy was now in the hands of individual states.

The states of course fell short and if you look at the time frame you'll see why.
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DaveCrabtree
07/29/09

@FormerEnglishMajor: I'd completely forgotten that Geraldo made his name at that time. Another awful consequence of that era.
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DaveCrabtree
07/29/09

@aftercancer: Since deinstitutionalization, the mental health infrastructure has failed the seriously mentally ill homeless. Nobody's arguing about that. It had failed them for almost a decade before Reagan took office, and it's failed them for the twenty years since he left office. Blaming Reagan, without blaming Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush I, Clinton and Bush II, is just argumentative.
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yetimike
07/29/09

Woah, I stand corrected!
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DaveCrabtree
07/29/09

@yetimike: Good boy. We Reaganite lurkers (lurking Reaganites?) like graciousness in our adversaries. No hard feelings!!!
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pepelicious
04/21/09

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It's not the stories you report on the Internet that killed you - it's the fucking commentary. For every great Web piece, there's ten times as much retarded commentary that follows and, eventually, colors the story.
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PandoraSpocks
04/21/09

@pepelicious: How exactly does commentary "color the story?" The only difference between online comments and a bunch of people sitting around in a coffee shop discussing a story in the Times is a keyboard.
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