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11/06/09

In reply to Women, Children and Goldman Sachs Bankers First
Okay. I worked at GS and we were treated very well. Not just the millionaires. When I worked there, it was the kind of place that employed nurses who sent every woman there confidential letters to say that you needed a mammogram, and you had to call extension 2XXX to schedule yours, which took place on the premises. I'm sure the boys got the same letters about their prostates or other boy parts.I can't see how this is a bad thing. I was working so many hours, I'd never have gone for a mammo if Mama Goldman hadn't made me do so.But carry on hating. I'm proud to be a former employee. I left ten years ago, but I will always be proud to say I worked there.Here is a little story about GS. On my first day of work, I smoked a cigarette. In my office, with the door closed; It was legal at the time. The secretary in the cubicle outside, not my secretary and not a secretary to anyone important, complained to HR that the second-hand smoke aggravated her asthma. Goldman took her complaint seriously and made me swap offices with a fellow several doors down. It was a major pain to swap both offices out, but it was done and the fellow who was moved never complained to me. It was a bit embarrassing to me, to be moved in my first week. HR called me as soon as I had resettled, to ask if all was okay and if I was upset. Nobody asks a smoker if things are okay when they are moved, but GS did. I said the only thing I could, that I was sorry to have caused so much chaos. I didn’t say what I was thinking, that two very well paid executives had been moved because a secretary complained. That would never have happened in any other place I have worked. The secretary would have been canned.

But, hey, carry on, John. #aporkalypse
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b4nt4
11/05/09

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also my little brother has swine flu now and i've had food poisoning that is 10x worse. everyone shuttup! #aporkalypse
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b4nt4
11/05/09

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i used to work for the head of a bank whose lady is a celebrity and i cant remember if it was when this whole swine flu thing began last year?? or some other flu or illness thing was going around but ALL of the pharmacies were out of cipro yet she managed to get some (and my co worker had to go hold it hostage at the duane reade until her flack came to pick it up). #aporkalypse
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pollyannacowgirl
11/05/09

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Okay, it's not fair, but H1N1 is not ebola. And there's a window between getting the jab and actual immunity, so I don't count the vaccine as being some kind of holy grail.

My family has swine flu now. It is unpleasant, but I'm able to care for three sick children and myself. It isn't pretty, but we're essentially okay.

I've been sicker with other flus, in fact. #aporkalypse
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Lymed
11/05/09

@pollyannacowgirl: I am happy that you are your family are okay. One woman from my office ended up in the hospital because of H1N1. It is not ebola, but the flu does kill people. Particularly people who have compromised immune systems and asthma. #aporkalypse
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Cagliostro
11/05/09

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As Mort Sahl once said, "The ship of state is sinking, and the rich are making sure the first class cabins are water-tight". We apparently have an unlimited capacity to be played for chumps - at least until we really run out of money. #aporkalypse
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uncivilly obedient
11/05/09

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If everyone at Goldman Sachs got sick from the flu or died, this country would collapse. #aporkalypse
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Beau Nerd
11/05/09

@uncivilly obedient: If that's the case, everyone at Golman Sachs has been sick with the flu or dead for years now. Which renders the vaccine pretty much moot. So wasteful, these bankers! #aporkalypse
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Unsolicited Advice
11/05/09

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Citigroup has been supplied with 1,200 units and Goldman with 200, says Jessica Scaperotti, press secretary for the Department of Health & Mental Hygiene. The agency has so far approved orders by 29 employers—including 16 that have yet to receive any vaccine—after they were cleared by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC). Big employers that have received or are scheduled to receive vaccine so far include Time Warner (TWX), JPMorgan Chase (JPM), Memorial Sloan-Kettering, New York Presbyterian Healthcare System, and New York University.

The biggest health risk with H1N1 is absenteeism. From work, at big companies. Babies and children will not die unless there are complications. Everyone in my family save my wife and I have had the virus, including an 8-year-old with asthma - it's easily combatted with Tamiflu.

Pulitzer-worthy post, John. #aporkalypse
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AndPreciousLittleofThat
11/05/09

@Unsolicited Advice: I'd counter that the biggest risk with H1N1 is DEATH.

Which, unless Goldman and Citi have recently taken to hiring teenagers and pregnant women exclusively, means that there is zero justification for them having, much less STOCKPILING these vaccines.

But it's not surprising that Wall Street once again has a tin ear for public relations. When the NY Fed, Goldman, Citi AND Chase get these vaccines while pregnant women wait for hours in lines, it's another great demonstration of how fucking clueless the bankers are. #aporkalypse
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Unsolicited Advice
11/05/09

@AndPreciousLittleofThat:

The CDC dispensed the vaccine - there is a limited supply and they are charged with determining how to distribute it.

[www.cdc.gov]

The report John linked indicates that the vaccine is for high-value personnel within corporations. Since absenteeism is the most critical highest risk presented by H1N1, prevented large losses by inoculating executives is numerically wise. Sorry! There are federal guidelines alluded to in this memo - we should see if Goldman's receipt of vaccine is somehow abnormal rather than distorting every piece of news related to the firm in some yellow fever of mudraking rage:

[www.opm.gov] #aporkalypse
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AndPreciousLittleofThat
11/05/09

@Unsolicited Advice: Ha ha, yellow fever.
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Unsolicited Advice
11/05/09

@AndPreciousLittleofThat:

I really do try to be the funny fatalist. #aporkalypse
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Front_Towards_Enemy
10/26/09

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I remember the fools I always encounter while hiking inside the Grand Canyon.

There are signs posted at the edge of all the trails warning about the lack of water and NOT TO ATTEMPT to hike to the river & back in a single day.

When we hike inside the canyon, each of us carry a backpack, emergency food & clothing, first aid kits, plus 2 gallons of water.

On every trip, we pass morons who wear sneakers and are carrying a 16oz bottle of designer water liek they are out on a Sunday stroll.

On our last trip at about a 3rd of the way down, we ran into a dad who was hiking in the canyon with his 4 precious snowflakes in-tow who was only carrying 1 canteen of water for all five of them. .

During June.

I had to stop him, take him aside and insist he go back up right now due to lack of water. He simply could not understand why we were so concerned about him & his brood. He figured if he got into trouble, he could call the rangers to help him out. He also assumed there was water readily available on the trail. (Mind you the signs at the trailheads tell you there is very little if any water inside the canyon in GIANT BOLD LETTERS. #nature
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Tart of Darkness
10/27/09

@Front_Towards_Enemy: Of course you have to have read "Death in the Grand Canyon" yes? It's the guilty pleasure of northern Arizona. #nature
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Front_Towards_Enemy
10/28/09

@Tart of Darkness: I bought a copy on my last trip! #nature
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icedog
10/26/09

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These are becoming a problem in Canada where the Yuppies and Euros are using these things just because they're getting tired of their "adventure" and want an easy way out. Our search and rescue system is built on civilian volunteers who are being forced to take unnecessary risks and give up work days and days off to rescue these rich idiots, who often can't be bothered to thank their rescuers. #nature
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BadUncle
10/26/09

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In the Alps, you're charged for helicopter rescues. So people buy rescue insurance before off-trail skiing, or glacier climbing. It's cheap, and it seems to level the playing field. #nature
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Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
10/26/09

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"Daddy, I think you bought Evian instead of Fiji."

"Oh, God, Eileen! Push the Bat (Mitzvah) Signal!" #nature
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once
10/26/09

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How is a device that costs $299.00 only for yuppies? Do the poors sleep w/out tents and hunt bears w/ spears for food? #nature
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misslinda
10/26/09

@once: It's not. You split the cost with your camping buddies and it's pretty cheap. But it's the concept that is yuppified--that help is only a button away. Though you could also think of it as opening nature up to those who would not otherwise be able to. So it's really the non-yuppies who are being selfish by wanting to restrict yuppies to leaf peeping and apple picking. #nature
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once
10/26/09

@misslinda: What are flares for? This is simply an improvement on existing rescue devices. High profile rescue cases take days or even weeks to locate people - it would actually save money to find these people w/in a matter of hours. The problem is trigger-happy campers like the 2 idiots & their teenage sons who should have been fined for their 2nd & 3rd rescues. #nature
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BadUncle
10/26/09

@once: Flares...
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SpyMagician
10/26/09

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Maybe that other lady who had problems with the Park Slope Food Co-op could have used this device to help her? #nature
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raincoaster
10/26/09

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I want these people to die. I want them to die in pain. No: in agony.

I just interviewed a professional explorer, Anthony Dalton, and he made it very clear to me that when he went on his adventures he didn't expect it to cost anyone anything when it went wrong (which it frequently did). When his boat capsized off Alaska in the fall, with icebergs around, he thought "oh shit, you've killed yourself. Now what?"

He didn't think, "Oh god, this is inconvenient." #nature
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raincoaster
10/26/09

@raincoaster: By the way, that Into The Wild kid is the archetype of this kind of whiner. He ate poisoned plants, and blamed the planet. Dude was completely unprepared for the challenge he faced. If I learned nothing else from that book, I learned that great writing can be wasted on bad material.
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raincoaster
10/26/09

@raincoaster: As a Canuck, I've been known to define GPS devices as "Yuppie placation devices." #nature
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Cicada
10/26/09

@raincoaster: As a biologist who has had to trek to some pretty remote field sites, I call GPS devices and sat phones "necessities". #nature
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fuckingoldman
10/26/09

@raincoaster: Gotta disagree about the Into the Wild Kid, he just made a mistake, albeit a deadly one. The poisonous plant he ate was almost identical to an edible plant. My brother dropped off the grid years ago and lives on his self-sustaining ranch in Colorado. He goes off for weeks at a time on his mule and lives off the land, and he told me it was a very easy mistake for the kid to make. #nature
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BadUncle
10/26/09

@Cicada: As someone who's driven around Bushwick, I agree. #nature
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filthy tongue
10/26/09

@fuckingoldman: It's my understanding that in addition to eating the poisonous plant, he was carrying an outdated map and was ill prepared for the harsh weather. This kid isn't a hero. He's not a complete dumbass, but he's not a hero, either. #nature
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Tart of Darkness
10/27/09

@filthy tongue: His map was actually a roadmap so he could see highways and rivers, but he definitely would have been better off with a better map.

And also it's important to consider that I think Krakauer's point about him was not that he was a hero or a dummy but just a guy who wanted to experience the world himself without the information filter that the rest of us rely on minute to minute. He didn't want to educate himself about what he couldn't do and in the end it cost him his life. He may have been overconfident but he wanted an experience that most people never obtain.

In the continental United States there is no place left that is more than 25 miles from some kind of road. It's sad to consider that for some people who need and want wilderness, there really isn't any. #nature
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filthy tongue
10/27/09

@Tart of Darkness: Fair enough. I read the article and book years ago, but having seen the movie more recently left me with a messed up impression of what the original works were trying to accomplish.

Also, I can empathize with people who want to experience wilderness. I just read an article about Google Wave, and all I want to do now is go live in the woods. #nature
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Tart of Darkness
10/28/09

@filthy tongue: Ha! I hear that. And I refused to see the movie. I understand that now the bus is a very popular destination for teens and some have had to be rescued from it. Sigh.

My true solution to the problem of people going out into nature and getting lost (particularly young men) is to ban Emerson. He wasn't even in the wilderness and he had a constant parade of guests at his place. In that sense Walden Pond was a shuck. #nature
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misslinda
10/25/09

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Personal Locator Beacons--for when glamping gets too rustic. #nature
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