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    Image of edosan edosan
    07/28/09

    In reply to Jeff Bezos Review: Do Not Buy This Thing I Sell, Ever
    So does that mean that if we buy The 13th Warrior we're safe from him sneaking into our houses and stealing it back?
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    Image of Magister Magister
    07/28/09

    In reply to Jeff Bezos Review: Do Not Buy This Thing I Sell, Ever
    He apparently loves milk, with or without snickerdoodles.
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    Image of Slackferno Slackferno
    07/28/09

    In reply to Jeff Bezos Review: Do Not Buy This Thing I Sell, Ever
    Bezos hates Vikings. Vikings not terribly fond of Super Saver shipping policy.
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    Image of Cheap Shot Cheap Shot
    07/28/09

    In reply to Jeff Bezos Review: Do Not Buy This Thing I Sell, Ever
    Banderas is all kinds of fail to me. He was up there with Penelope Cruz from his Almovodar films and then he married fake ass crazy woman Melanie Griffith. If you doubt this, look at her website!: http://www.melaniegriffith.com/home.html
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    Image of Weegee's bored Weegee's bored
    07/28/09

    @Cheap Shot: OMG! Her site! This woman makes Mariah Carey look modest.
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    Image of blix blix
    07/28/09

    @Cheap Shot: Damn you, for now I shall be trapped on the Isle of Avalon for hours.
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    Image of goetz goetz
    07/28/09

    @Weegee's bored: I just got stuck in the chitchat room. It was terrifying.
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    07/28/09

    @goetz:Beware the dream room.
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    Image of Cheap Shot Cheap Shot
    07/28/09

    @blix: Her site has not changed even slightly since I discovered it like 4 years ago!
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    07/28/09

    @goetz: Her site runs on people's souls!
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    07/28/09

    @Weegee's bored: she wears the crazy pants in the relationship.
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    Image of trucha trucha
    07/28/09

    @Cheap Shot: I am One with All. I am One with All. I am One with All. I am One with All.

    World Peace has arrived!!!
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    Image of notsofresh notsofresh
    07/28/09

    @Cheap Shot: "My beautiful friend Sting is also an incredible writer. His book made me laugh and cry and feel so much!"
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    Image of Cheap Shot Cheap Shot
    07/28/09

    @notsofresh: OMG, real quote from there??? This would be a great feature. Top 10 wacko celeb sites.
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    Image of blix blix
    07/28/09

    @Cheap Shot: It's like a haunted house trapped in time. If I refreshed the screen and a new comment appeared I think I'd poop myself.
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    Image of DonLaFontaine DonLaFontaine
    07/28/09

    @Cheap Shot: I couldn't agree with you more. "Tony Flags" was great when he was a Spanish actor, living in Spain and selectively taking on quality roles. He was fantastic in Women on the Verge, among others. He moves to the US, marries a botox addict, takes on stereotypical roles for Hispanics and becomes the punchline for jokes ... it's truly a tragedy.
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    Image of Juancho Juancho
    07/28/09

    @blix: I think her mother (Tippie Hedren) is such a goof that it explains everything about Melanie.

    Tippie is a huge animal fan, and she lives on some sort of animal preserve. I once heard a radio interview with her where one of the animals got loose and she had to hang up, it might have been the funniest thing ever. Nothing more awkward than a morning-show host wondering if his interview subject got disconnected because she was being mauled to death by a wild animal.
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    Image of The_Lovely_Miss_Bronx The_Lovely_Miss_Bronx
    07/28/09

    In reply to Jeff Bezos Review: Do Not Buy This Thing I Sell, Ever
    That scream you just heard came from Jeff Bezos, after Banderas' devoted and very protective wife Melanie Griffith ripped his balls off.
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    Image of daveyjonesisdead daveyjonesisdead
    07/28/09

    @The_Lovely_Miss_Bronx: Followed by a satisfied grin - Jeff loves CBT.
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    Image of The_Lovely_Miss_Bronx The_Lovely_Miss_Bronx
    07/28/09

    @daveyjonesisdead: What is CBT? I can only come up with "Crazy Bitch Tantrums."
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    Image of eleusiswalks eleusiswalks
    07/28/09

    @The_Lovely_Miss_Bronx: You don't want to know. Really.
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    Image of limber limber
    04/14/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Says 'Embarrassing' Error, Not Hacker, Censored 57,310 Gay Books
    Only a very tiny percentage of the population has any idea what algorithmic engines are like to design and operate, and I'm one of them. Having looked at the ban/unban pattern, I find Amazon's explanation of a catalog error as totally plausible.


    I believe them, that this is a categorization error, especially your man from France -- I once outsourced a medical classification system, and when I got it back the New Delhi-based team had classified homosexuality as "a mental illness of the genital area". This is one node, mind you, buried in about seventy pages of medical jargon, intended for Western content. I caught it before we launched it, but I can only imagine what would've happened if that team had been working on tagging rather than creating the classification structure. And when I'd gone looking for the tags, at first glance it would've just read "Homosexuality".


    Considering all this blew up on Easter weekend, when everyone would've been away from any logs, I'm not surprised PR didn't have an immediate answer for the masses. Discovering the glitch is one thing; crawling through the enormous Amazon taxonomy to find what's throwing it? That's a nightmare.

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    Image of ljnd2 ljnd2
    04/14/09

    @limber: I was with you right up till the end - I used to do taxonomy work for BN.com. I know how this happened, in the same way you do. But I disagree with the PR. Even if you haven't unraveled what's going on, for something like this you don't wait to solve the problem to make a statement. You say, "We think we know how this happened, but it's extremely complicated and it'll take us a while to get to the bottom of it. That said, it was NOT any sort of executive decision, it is NOT a policy decision, and we're very very sorry that we messed up." You make it clear, in other words, that you understand that whole categories of books don't suppress themselves. And that untangling the mess is going to take a while.
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    Image of limber limber
    04/14/09

    @ljnd2: That's fair, yeah -- things would have been a lot better with specific language to try and still the waters. I don't know much about the art of PR, and frankly people have been so worked up, I'm not sure they'd've listened -- they're out there calling for scalps, arranging boycotts, demanding discounts and donations. PR could've done a much better job, I'm just not sure how effective it would've been.
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    04/13/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Says 'Embarrassing' Error, Not Hacker, Censored 57,310 Gay Books
    I guess one unanswered question is whether the Conficker network was in fact used by Weev. It would be interesting if he were involved in Conficker.
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    Image of theMoJo theMoJo
    04/13/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Says 'Embarrassing' Error, Not Hacker, Censored 57,310 Gay Books
    Way to make a big deal out of nothing, really. I've read a lot complaining and criticizing Amazon's response and handling of the situation, but I really don't see anything they've done as particularly craptastic.
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    Image of apocalypse-nowish apocalypse-nowish
    04/13/09

    @theMoJo: You should see it over at Jezebel. There are about ten pages worth of outrage over all of this. And in a week who is really going to care?
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    Image of hatey hatey
    04/13/09

    @apocalypse-nowish: OMG. There are ten pages of outrage about EVERYTHING at Jezebel.
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    Image of MincnglyWhrdL'mer MincnglyWhrdL'mer
    04/13/09

    @hatey: one can only wonder how they get anything else done...


    thought. jezehellers are bots?

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    Image of limber limber
    04/14/09

    @theMoJo: It really, really is a big deal out of nothing. I have no damn idea why a simple tagging error is being hyped as a civil rights catastrophe.


    Logic takes a holiday.

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    Image of Dave Nattriss Dave Nattriss
    04/13/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Says 'Embarrassing' Error, Not Hacker, Censored 57,310 Gay Books
    Owen (the author of this article) - you really need to fix the headline. It was not 57,310 gay books, just 57,310 books. Please read the statement that you've quoted!
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    Image of phloxâś” phloxâś”
    04/13/09

    @Dave Nattriss: Yeah Owen, they were books that just happened to be gay. Being gay is just a small, yet integral part of those books.
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    Image of Worst Spelling Ever Worst Spelling Ever
    04/13/09

    @phloxâś”: Books that are bisexual just can't decide which part of the Dewey Decimal System they like.
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    Image of MincnglyWhrdL'mer MincnglyWhrdL'mer
    04/13/09

    @Worst Spelling Ever: they keep going from (kinsey) one to six?
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    Image of Gena Radcliffe Gena Radcliffe
    04/13/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Says 'Embarrassing' Error, Not Hacker, Censored 57,310 Gay Books
    It's interesting that people seem to want to believe this is Amazon revealing a never before exhibited secret homophobia, rather than trolling or sabotage from a third party just wanting to create trouble.
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    Image of limber limber
    04/14/09

    @Gena Radcliffe: Righteous and outraged activism is fun, apparently.


    Occam's Razor loses again.

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    Image of cdmunch cdmunch
    04/13/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Says 'Embarrassing' Error, Not Hacker, Censored 57,310 Gay Books
    I think it's adorable that all you butt pirates and twitterers still read books.
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    Image of Worst Spelling Ever Worst Spelling Ever
    04/13/09

    @cdmunch: Mom. What did I tell you about that? Now go make us some muffins.
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    Image of cdmunch cdmunch
    04/13/09

    @Worst Spelling Ever: I don't wear chartreuse and I don't keep a bottle of vodka behind the living room couch so I AINT YOUR MOMMA. Now, when you going to get a job in an office and find a nice girl your age and make your real momma proud?
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    Image of Worst Spelling Ever Worst Spelling Ever
    04/13/09

    @cdmunch: NevAH! I am going to leech off society until I have sucked it dry. *winks at Ryan Tate*
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    Image of cdmunch cdmunch
    04/13/09

    @Worst Spelling Ever: Are you implying that you're having immortal relations with Ryan Tate? I'm sure I'd be disgusted if I saw photographic evidence of such acts.


    @secretagentman: You are a filthy filthy dirty man.

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    Image of mmstk101 mmstk101
    04/13/09

    @cdmunch: Immortal relations? That would be quite a feat.


    @secretagentman: Nice!

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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    04/13/09

    @cdmunch: I prefer the term anal marauder.
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    Image of MincnglyWhrdL'mer MincnglyWhrdL'mer
    04/13/09

    @iplaudius: that's rump ranger to you, mister.
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    04/14/09

    @The Boulevard of Broken Queens: Hey stranger! I never heard that one before. Ass bandit. Tee hee.
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    Image of cdmunch cdmunch
    04/14/09

    @iplaudius: You boys get awfully frisky at night.
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    Image of Wrapitup Wrapitup
    04/14/09

    @The Boulevard of Broken Queens: Beg pardon sir, but I believe you're referring to glute gougers.
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    04/14/09

    @cdmunch: Me? I’m all talk and 100% heterotextual to boot.
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    Image of Colonel Mustard Colonel Mustard
    04/13/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Says 'Embarrassing' Error, Not Hacker, Censored 57,310 Gay Books
    No, it was me in the lounge with the monkey wrench!
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    Image of MissPeacock MissPeacock
    04/13/09

    @Colonel Mustard: Pardon me, but it was I, in the Billiard Room (you know, where the balls are) with the lead pipe (phallus).
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    Image of pureblarney pureblarney
    04/14/09

    @MissPeacock: Clearly the gheys are to be found in the ballroom. I call shenanigans. Big, penis-shaped shenanigans.
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    Image of Melissa Gira Grant Melissa Gira Grant
    04/13/09

    In reply to Why It Makes Sense That a Hacker's Behind Amazon's Big Gay Outrage
    No. I still doubt it was a script kiddie and an army of low-paid kids in internet cafes in Uzbekistan, as much as I doubt the de-listing had anything to do with gay hate. The guy I talked to inside Amazon says it was an internally initiated tagging of 58,000 titles as "adult." And with the surfacing of those emails sent by Amazon reps to de-listed authors informing them that indexing their books, even the really silly ones on boy-on-boy loving with horses or whatnot, is "inconsiderate." To taste, maybe. But that's all.


    The real question is, where's that Bezos on a Bearskin rug shot when we need it, Sweaterbear?

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    Image of Robert Stribley Robert Stribley
    04/13/09

    In reply to Why It Makes Sense That a Hacker's Behind Amazon's Big Gay Outrage
    "What to make of people who don't want to believe this was a prank? They're left with the notion of Amazon.com pursuing homophobic censorship..."


    False dichotomy. There are myriad other explanations, including the possibility that each book was tagged and/or reported by individuals in an organized or unorganized effort by people with particular religious sensibilities, so that content which offended was no longer displayed. I'm not suggested that's definitely what happened, but this hacker's story has already been debunked and doesn't reflect the actual evidence, which seems to be that authors have been complaining about this sort of things for months and the issue's just reached critical mass.

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    Image of limber limber
    04/13/09

    @Robert Stribley: I've only seen one author's complaint, the guy who wrote the gay DC stripclub book. How many others were there? If it's less than 10, I wouldn't be surprised that Customer Service just fixed them on a case-by-case basis, rather than diving into the tags.


    I agree with you that the problem probably didn't reach the critical mass needed to get it bounced from CS to IT; it's just weird that people are canceling their accounts and being so reactionary when there is so little backing up the Amazon-hates-gays theory.

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    Image of smashface smashface
    04/13/09

    In reply to Why It Makes Sense That a Hacker's Behind Amazon's Big Gay Outrage
    And Owen, can we get Melissa Gira Grant for a one-time update to Craigslist's sexual subculture - I mean what the hell is "pnp" and "tina"?
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    04/13/09

    @smashface: pnp = Party and Play meaning drugs and sex

    tina = christina = christy = crystal = crystal meth
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    Image of lacieca01 lacieca01
    04/13/09

    @iplaudius: "The Second Mrs. Stephen Haines."
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    Image of Melissa Gira Grant Melissa Gira Grant
    04/13/09

    @smashface: What lacie said.
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    04/13/09

    @lacieca01: Heh, you’d slap me if you knew how long it took me to get that.
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