Since when was Edelman based in Chicago? Aren't they still on Broadway overlooking Times Square? Maybe Richard Edelman commutes to Chi-Town from the Hamptons...
The saddest thing is that this manager who is 56 now could have gotten online as a working adult 15 years ago and had a decade and a half of web experience while todays 23 year olds were still learning fractions.
The people who made the internet happen are old and very smart now, with a lot of experience, not doddering fools looking to new grads to turn on their printers for them. #publicrelations
The story is a plant. Edelman was/is a leader in online viral marketing. They just don't talk about that side of their business, unless they get busted as they did with Wal-Mart.
@burbere001: Yeah, I think you've hit the nail on the head.
There's also a world of difference between the web of 15 years ago and what it's morphed into today. To a lot of olds, it's still e-mail and websites, social networking was something you did face-to-face, and to call someone a friend meant that you trusted them. Now I get "friend requests" from people I've never met, and I can't quite bring myself to stoop to that level of shallowness.
That attitude has been haunting me over the last year, though. I've previously scorned Twitter and Facebook as vapid wastes of time, and I'm beginning to wonder if I should just let my Lifeclock turn black. #publicrelations
@Cynical Media Bitch:
Just re-define the word "friend" and problem solved. I'd advise a definition of friend as "someone with whom you've had contact" and not someone you actually trust, actually like or even know. This is not so far removed from most face-to-face friends these days.
@burbere002: Then I guess I'm just not as loose with my friendship as I am with my kisses; the word "acquaintance" is overdue for a revival.
When you call someone you don't trust, don't like, or (God forbid) don't even know your "friend," then the concept becomes meaningless.
(Sisters, this is how you end up in the hospital at 5am after allegedly being roofied, with no one there to listen to you explain that you only drank five mojitos, and of course you didn't have anything to eat, because you didn't want anyone judging you.)
@burbere002: Are you Professor Gradwell from McGill? He said something like that about a decade ago. While I agree that today friendship can be extended from real-life interactions to online ones, I call bullshit on referring to people as friends when I know nothing about them at all.
For example, I have a small group of Gawker friends, and as far as I know, I know none of them from meatspace. These are people who have impressed me on these threads with their reasoning, their perspective and their ability to convince me, although I don't always agree with what they say. (I would hope that those in my small band of followers are similarly discerning, but there's no accounting for taste, or the limits of Gawker's relationship model.) #publicrelations
@Cynical Media Bitch: No, not a prof. I'm just another smartass on the internet.
The whole redefinition of friendship thing is not difficult. It's already happened to a large percentage of the population. They have more or less limited or removed elements of empathy and loyalty from the equation while instituting flexible time horizons/expiration dates.
Stated another way, most post-modern folks would go Sopranos on their friends, making them part of a N.J. landfill for an extra Tommy Hilfiger gift bag during fashion week.
@Conchie Birdie: I imagine that Hizzoner was referring to the pretentiousness of the title, since it's usually borne by some 20-something who was wrestling with phonics when I was first explaining this thing called "The Internet" to my bosses. #publicrelations
@Cynical Media Bitch: You're lookin at one (hookedonfonics werked fer me?). The title loses its pretentiousness when you realize every other twentysomething you know is an AE as well. #publicrelations
@Conchie Birdie: I know the title's supposed to impress the client and/or rookie newspeople, but I can't believe that anyone falls for it. #publicrelations
Actually, this style was a very popular graphic design trope in the 1980s. (And, like duh, as if they are trying to hide the inspiration. Despite the Steven Heller book, designers post-M&Co are not really all that great at the ha ha.)
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Edelman's real HQ is located inside an innocuous-looking volcano. #publicrelations
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KidsDigital PR StrategistsThe people who made the internet happen are old and very smart now, with a lot of experience, not doddering fools looking to new grads to turn on their printers for them. #publicrelations
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The story is a plant. Edelman was/is a leader in online viral marketing. They just don't talk about that side of their business, unless they get busted as they did with Wal-Mart.
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There's also a world of difference between the web of 15 years ago and what it's morphed into today. To a lot of olds, it's still e-mail and websites, social networking was something you did face-to-face, and to call someone a friend meant that you trusted them. Now I get "friend requests" from people I've never met, and I can't quite bring myself to stoop to that level of shallowness.
That attitude has been haunting me over the last year, though. I've previously scorned Twitter and Facebook as vapid wastes of time, and I'm beginning to wonder if I should just let my Lifeclock turn black. #publicrelations
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Just re-define the word "friend" and problem solved. I'd advise a definition of friend as "someone with whom you've had contact" and not someone you actually trust, actually like or even know. This is not so far removed from most face-to-face friends these days.
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When you call someone you don't trust, don't like, or (God forbid) don't even know your "friend," then the concept becomes meaningless.
(Sisters, this is how you end up in the hospital at 5am after allegedly being roofied, with no one there to listen to you explain that you only drank five mojitos, and of course you didn't have anything to eat, because you didn't want anyone judging you.)
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For example, I have a small group of Gawker friends, and as far as I know, I know none of them from meatspace. These are people who have impressed me on these threads with their reasoning, their perspective and their ability to convince me, although I don't always agree with what they say. (I would hope that those in my small band of followers are similarly discerning, but there's no accounting for taste, or the limits of Gawker's relationship model.) #publicrelations
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The whole redefinition of friendship thing is not difficult. It's already happened to a large percentage of the population. They have more or less limited or removed elements of empathy and loyalty from the equation while instituting flexible time horizons/expiration dates.
Stated another way, most post-modern folks would go Sopranos on their friends, making them part of a N.J. landfill for an extra Tommy Hilfiger gift bag during fashion week.
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