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    Image of Clarissima Clarissima
    12/15/09

    In reply to School Is Hell
    Varg Vikrenes should have been a panelist. Via Skype, of course. I don't think he's allowed to leave his fundamentalist farm yet.
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    Image of Urbania Urbania
    12/15/09

    In reply to School Is Hell
    How does one add the shut up, college tag?
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    Image of AzureTexan AzureTexan
    12/15/09

    In reply to School Is Hell
    Wake me when they get to the Pat Boone part.
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    Image of Botswana Meat Commission FC Botswana Meat Commission FC
    12/15/09

    In reply to School Is Hell
    Talks included "Perpetual Rot: Obsessive Cycles of Deterioration," on "'liminal death-space' in the work of Xasthur."

    Also, "NO DAD, I DON'T WANT TO PLAY LITTLE LEAGUE: Surviving A Black-Metal Childhood."
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    12/15/09

    In reply to School Is Hell
    Fishbone is still my favorite Black metal group.
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    Image of Anrkist Anrkist
    12/15/09

    @Richard Petty Bourgeoisie: I think they are more Ska based.
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    12/15/09

    @Anrkist: I know. I just couldn't bring myself to type "Living Colour."
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    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    12/15/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    I hat to admit that I went to, graduated from and continued after college without the slightest idea that the experience would translate into CA$H. Instead I had a series of experiences, some intellectual, some emotional, based on books, studies, social experiences and my first time to spend as a young adult by myself, which helped me move on from a lonely childhood and fairly negative view of people to being someone far more at ease with myself and interested and engaged with society at large. And I was not the only one. Yeah, yadda yadda yadda, but there is something to be said for the experience as an experience. Otherwise we are talking Neo-con trade school oriented anti-intellectualism. "If you can't make MONEY (stuffs burger into mouth) there's no reason to do it!" I heard that from a number of guys who went into finance, proud of their inability to handle abstract concepts. It's amazing how many of them slaved through their 20s and into their 30s and are now bankrupt or worse and with nothing--nothing at all--to show for it. Unless you count coke habits.
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    Image of Lucky Lucky
    12/14/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    I've been trying to prepare myself for the increasingly realistic possibility that I will be working as a carnie once I graduate with my 3.5 GPA and a Poli Sci degree from a UC.
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    Image of intime intime
    12/14/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    Oh, my liberal arts degree is priceless for three reasons. First, it made me the socialist I am today, secondly I always win at Trivial Pursuit, and last - I wouldn't have missed all of that partying for anything!
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    Image of tunamelt tunamelt
    12/14/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    I've been listening to this song on repeat since May 2008. Fight on, Trojans!

    (I'm actually employed, now, in a real job instead of working an internship and a p/t job. It just takes time.)
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    Image of filthy tongue filthy tongue
    12/14/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    Skilled trades, kids. That's where it's at.
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    Image of Helio Helio
    12/14/09

    @filthy tongue: thanks for the head's up...7 years ago.
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    Image of filthy tongue filthy tongue
    12/14/09

    @Helio: Hey, if that kid had spent two years in a plumbing apprenticeship, he'd be employed now. Just sayin'.
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    Image of The Dewd The Dewd
    12/14/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    The problem is most people don't major in anything useful to employers. I wish someone had told me before I majored in English. Now I just have a bunch of term papers on "To the Lighthouse" and no $$$ :-(
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    Image of MissPeacock MissPeacock
    12/14/09

    @The Dewd: Go into Tech Writing. That's what I did. There's lots of money in it, too.
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    Image of Grim Reaper of the Forest Grim Reaper of the Forest
    12/14/09

    @The Dewd: I think it makes sense to go to college to major in something like English, or History, or something academic, or highly technical fields like engineering. What doesn't make sense is a job market that requires college degrees for entry-level business jobs
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    Image of cellardoor cellardoor
    12/14/09

    @The Dewd: I've always found jobs because I know how to write. You could look for freelance work writing web sites, brochures, etc. Most people either hate writing or can't do it well, so this is a valuable service if it's what you like to do. Network and find design agencies who build sites and develop collateral and branding strategies. Designers hire you as the writer and pay you - and you are presented to the customer as part of the design service. If you have good business sense, writing gigs can also turn into marketing gigs once they see the value you bring to the table.
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    Image of Sir Winston Thriller Sir Winston Thriller
    12/14/09

    @MissPeacock: Yes, if you can plan, write, edit, etc. Lately, I've been plagued with "writers" who spend their time masturbating over DITA and WIKIs as the promised land.
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    Image of JacquesPaysan JacquesPaysan
    12/14/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    Damn that college education, for making me think I'm too good to work flipping burgers at my local McDonald's.
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    Image of La Mareada La Mareada
    12/14/09

    @JacquesPaysan: Every McDonald's(or Wal-Mart etc) has a waiting list of 100s of their ideal employees. No college at all, preferably GED or less. Immigrants who owe smugglers money or their families at home are punished. Women escaping domestic violence. Men recently released from prison.

    They just toss out applications from anyone who hasn't been completely stomped on by life. If you are a high school grad that ever had a half hour break or a regular schedule at a previous job, McDonald's considers you "too good" to work for them.
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    Image of JacquesPaysan JacquesPaysan
    12/14/09

    @La Mareada: Not to mention that for some reason all of the McDonald's in my area have gone out of business. Shit's fucked up.
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    12/14/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    I tell ya, the real Nostrodamus is old movie classics. Like "Dead End."

    Joel McRae is an architect, Dave, but it's the other Depression and all, and he's working as a window painter. Baby Face is Bogart, and he's the local boy made good in the story, as he joined the mob and prospered. He's impressed his old neighborhood chum is an actual architect.

    BF: You went to high school, huh?
    Dave: And college, too, for all the good it did me.
    BF (snorts): Boy, I'm glad I ain't like you saps.

    Screenplay by one of our most prominent Stalinists.
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    Image of Brad Brown Brad Brown
    12/14/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    I was raised in Alabama. You really don't want to reach out to firms in that state unless you plan on spending significant time in the barrel.
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    Image of The Dewd The Dewd
    12/14/09

    @Brad Brown: you mean like this?
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    Image of Knight_Of_The_Burning_River Knight_Of_The_Burning_River
    12/14/09

    In reply to Value of College Degree Now Negative
    This ends up being one of the under-reported side effects of the invest-shafting Wall Street perpetrates. People lose their retirements, can't retire, and stay in their jobs well past the ages of 55-60. Then, people can't move up, and lower level stuff never opens up for recent grads to step into.

    It sucks, but between that, and companies constantly shipping all manner of labor overseas, what can kids really hope to do?
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