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    Image of El_Gato El_Gato
    11/05/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: Today Offers to Help Spitzer's Flack Land a Job at NBC
    I imagine Shelly Ross will be extremely furious with Christine Anderson for talking such smack behind her back. I never understood why people who work for government agencies that get FOIA'ed all the time still use their government e-mail accounts to say things they wouldn't want made public. #today
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    11/05/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: Today Offers to Help Spitzer's Flack Land a Job at NBC

    No current or future story on Spitzer can ever hope to trump that NY mag cover that so sucintly and perfectly summarized his persona & M.O. back in March 2008. An image = one thousand words, and all that. #today
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    Image of GORDONGARTRELLE GORDONGARTRELLE
    11/05/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: Today Offers to Help Spitzer's Flack Land a Job at NBC
    "Can you send" me -- communications director for the governor of the State of New York -- a New York Daily News article. "Unreal" indeed. #today
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    11/05/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: Today Offers to Help Spitzer's Flack Land a Job at NBC
    I hope Silda gave the doorman a good holiday tip for having to deal with all these asses. #today
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    Image of Hockeymom Hockeymom
    11/05/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: Today Offers to Help Spitzer's Flack Land a Job at NBC
    The most interesting thing about this is that working for Shelly Ross is still worse than working for a Governor who has a hooker habit. #today
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    Image of Magister Magister
    11/05/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: Today Offers to Help Spitzer's Flack Land a Job at NBC
    Lt. Gov Paterson's strong and storied leadership

    Um... okay. Did he have a backstory?
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    Image of Gabriel Snyder Gabriel Snyder
    11/05/09

    @Magister: That was my favorite line, too. #today
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    Image of Valerie Flame Valerie Flame
    11/05/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: How the New York Times and the Press Serviced Client No. 9
    At the very least, Gawker got some higher quality commenters out of this one.

    You'll learn more about reporting here than in four years of J-school. #eliotspitzer
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    Image of bucklerg bucklerg
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: How the New York Times and the Press Serviced Client No. 9
    Checking facts is always good, but you don't send a verbatim quote from your story to a PR person and ask "can I do this?" Not even to maintain the relationship. A paraphrase of what you're going to say and a question like "is this accurate?" sure. Yes, I'm a reporter.
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    Image of Paddington Paddington
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: How the New York Times and the Press Serviced Client No. 9
    Whose idea was this little expose? Did one of these former flaks say to someone at Gawker, hey, maybe there's good stuff here ... ?

    Just curious. Because the Spitzer people had a history of this type of behavior -- maybe leading people into saying embarrassing things, knowing that it would get public soon enough.

    Just curious ... #eliotspitzer
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    Image of Gabriel Snyder Gabriel Snyder
    11/04/09

    @Paddington: Actually, the idea came about when we were marveling at The State's work on the Mark Sanford story and we started brainstorming other governors with interesting sex scandals who might make for an interesting public records request. Eliot Spitzer's name, obviously, came up very quickly.
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    Edited by Gabriel Snyder at 11/04/09 6:40 PM Gabriel Snyder was starred Gabriel Snyder was unstarred
    Image of Paddington Paddington
    11/04/09

    @Gabriel Snyder:

    OK. You are excused, then. #eliotspitzer
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    Image of abettertomorrow abettertomorrow
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: How the New York Times and the Press Serviced Client No. 9
    Anything in the emails about the original source of the story? A lot of talking about "scoop" and "broke" but isn't it more likely that the Times was fed this story by someone that wanted to cause some pain and suffering to Spitzer? And that that same person was going to feed it to any number of other outlets as well? #eliotspitzer
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    Image of El_Gato El_Gato
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: How the New York Times and the Press Serviced Client No. 9
    It sounds like you guys were expecting something very sensational and Hollywood-esque, like Danny Hakim telling the flack that her ass was grass and the flack calling him a parasite. That's not generally how reporting works in the real world. Not when you have a beat and work with the same flacks day in and day out. In a case like this, both parties realize that it's in their best interests to be civil and to at least give the appearance of trying to be fair.
    I'm sure Christine had been dealing with Hakim for a long time. She knew that being nice to Hakim and occasionally granting his requests would mean a greater likelihood of him acquiescing on small things -- like changing "prostitution scandal" to "matter" -- and thus more favorable coverage. While Hakim knew that being kind to Christine wherever possible would mean he'd get more out of her.
    It's a give and take relationship. Textbook case of quid pro quo. This isn't Hollywood. #eliotspitzer
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    Image of stripedcoffeecup stripedcoffeecup
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: How the New York Times and the Press Serviced Client No. 9
    The Times went too far, in this former tabloid sleazeball's opinion, by sharing the actual text of the upcoming story with the flak. You can read back quotes to a source, but that's it. But then he got an AMAZING amount of access in return for this clearly ongoing coziness -- the cell phone number of the mistress! No other reporter gave that much and no other reporter got that much in return. Covering politics is a constant negotiation. The ones who refuse to sit at the bargaining table end up paying the price.

    I will say that one disadvantage of Times reporters is that they seem to cycle through these political beats so fast that they never have time to develop the bureaucratic sources within agencies needed to cut through the current administration's spin. They end up totally dependant on people like Christine Anderson and having to play ball like this. (This situation is not a good example of what I'm talking about, given the subject matter, but in general...) Also one quibble: he didn't really "ask" if he could call the mistress. He was really asking for contact info.
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    11/04/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: How the New York Times and the Press Serviced Client No. 9
    Is it wrong that I most enjoyed that Christine Anderson thinks there's a man named Ethan Ghetto walking this earth who isn't a rapper? Geto is still an awesome last name though. #eliotspitzer
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    Image of al.balboa al.balboa
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: How the New York Times and the Press Serviced Client No. 9
    seems like good reporting to me. By being civil, Hakim got the cell# of Kirton and an"I'll let you know if shes talking to anyone".
    They broke the story, got the facts out,kept their sources intact for follow ups, and didn't have to be over the top sensationalist, Gawker style.
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    Image of joe.furmanek joe.furmanek
    11/04/09

    In reply to The Spitzer Files: How the New York Times and the Press Serviced Client No. 9
    Congrats Gawker. You've discovered that the Times checks its quotes before publishing.
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