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Student-Professor Dust-Up at Columbia
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Student-Professor Dust-Up at Columbia |
05/21/09
As opposed to this kind of "throw the advisor under the bus" approach?
Just asking...
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And it's probably "Hinojosa."
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This seems like exactly the type of situation academic appeals are designed to address, isn't it?
And if so, isn't such an appeal usually one of the fairer ways of getting resolution?
Possibly I'm trying to look too hard for a silver lining here.
05/21/09
here's the description of the Book Proposal:
[www.samuelfreedman.com]
"A: It consists of two parts. One is an overview essay that provides the scheme and scope of your book -- its plot, theme, and characters, as well as the reasons the public should be interested in it and you're qualified to write it. The other is a sample chapter, which can be from any part of the book. Each part of the proposal will run from 3,000 to 6,000 words."
and of the thesis
[www.journalism.columbia.edu]
"The end result is a single, ambitious journalistic work of 10,000 words or its equivalent in the electronic media. "
So, yeah, I'm sure she notified both profs that she'd be covering the same subject, but would be doing separate work for each course.
Clearly these are two very different projects - with different writing required, regardless of the source material. To just summarize the thesis and turn it in as a book proposal does seem to disregard both the explicit course requirements, and the spirit and letter of the original agreement.
Maybe if you published the powerpoint this would be clearer...
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This could work.
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Pull me from this wordy morass!
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Like in Animal House. What a gas.
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You cannot enter a feature length film in a festival of shorts and legitimately complain about rejection.
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Yo G -- are you closely related to Ed? It's been months now since the question was first asked. No one seems to know.
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Don't know Ed very well. G scares the pee out of me.
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You mean Mr. Ed right?
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I actually (yes seriously) got a call from a young lady named "Siegel" for only the 2nd time in life yesterday. Erin, if that was you, call me back please. We need to talk.@Gnip-Gnop:
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I think she needs to get Gloria Allred on the blower asap.
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If she had any semblance of professionalism before, she lost it with that crybaby mess of an appeal.
05/22/09
She knew that she was supposed to hand in 5,000 words and instead handed in 16,000. Come ON. That's not even CLOSE. Really she was looking to do something really self-aggrandizing by shooting for honors on the full 16,000 word book-thesis and having it published as a book as well. She just got greedy.
I don't blame the professor. If she wants her degree, she should do some original work to supplement what she has and accept a later graduation date. He called bullshit on her nonsense.
I read her as really manipulative and dramatic. She changed the assignment unilaterally and is weeping that the professor didn't accept it. Well, he didn't know this would be the case and if he did, he probably NEVER would have agreed in the first place.