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    Three Horsemen of the Newspaper Apocalypse Quirkily Revealed

    'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'

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    Image of DennyCrane DennyCrane
    03/29/09

    In reply to Three Horsemen of the Newspaper Apocalypse Quirkily Revealed
    WHAT A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT. This reminds me exactly of the type of pablum my boss prattles on about every single goddamn week.


    Let's go point by point, shall we?

    Point 1: lack of local competition made newspapers soft and weak. Well, if you're referring to newspapers, sure. But isn't one of this site's very tenets that newspapers are facing competition from outside the print industry. First it was radio, then it was television, then it was the Internet. Newspapers ALWAYS

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    03/29/09

    had competition. It's not a lack of competition. It's a conscious decision not to compete; to yield certain aspects of the industry to the other mediums. Newspapers going soft had nothing to do with competition or lack thereof.


    Point 2: Design directors made newspapers soft and weak. Are you saying that actually making the paper easier to read was a bad thing? There's not a layout man in the world who would say this.


    Point 3: Well, actually, I can't disagree with that one.

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    Image of Ricki-Oh Ricki-Oh
    03/29/09

    In reply to Three Horsemen of the Newspaper Apocalypse Quirkily Revealed
    Which horseman is that strange taco-looking thing on the right?
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    Image of miss_msry miss_msry
    03/29/09

    @Ricki-Oh:


    That's Al.

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    Image of rdecredico rdecredico
    03/29/09

    In reply to Three Horsemen of the Newspaper Apocalypse Quirkily Revealed
    Fourth Horsemen Tosses Other Three Under Bus
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    03/29/09

    @rdecredico: Indeed, as if they were all finalists on a reality show.
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    Image of SaraRueful SaraRueful
    03/29/09

    In reply to Three Horsemen of the Newspaper Apocalypse Quirkily Revealed
    While USA Today has its place, and I do read the free copies I get when I stay in hotels, I find it, um, ironic that a founder of USA Today is bemoaning newspapers for being soft and weak.
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    Image of 1.1.1. 1.1.1.
    03/29/09

    @SaraRueful:


    Ironic. Rather.


    In sort-of-related news, did you know that Steven Spielberg and Jaws killed the movies?

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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    03/29/09

    @1.1.1.: I thought it was Star Wars. I read a book about the last dying gasp of movies in the seventies, from Easy Rider to Bonnie and Clyde, and it said the comics come to film killed the art dead as a ham.


    Same idea. Mindless spectacular dreck.

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    Image of Baroness Baroness
    01/06/09

    In reply to 'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'
    The day that the New York Times goes out of business is the day our pretense at civilized society in this country is permanently ended. Snipe away at its many failings, but it's absolutely nothing to gloat about, the very idea. I'd gladly pay thrice to keep it afloat, and believe me, nothing will replace it. Much less you lot.


    Malevolent wishes have a way of returning to sender.


    Seriously, enjoy your USAToday, if you get jollies from imagining the death of the Times.

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    Image of VirginUrgin VirginUrgin
    01/06/09

    @Baroness: While the New York Times has gone downhill (the Sunday Magazine, seriously. anyone remember it from the 90s???), USA Today isn't in much better shape.
    Me I read Sacramento and Modesto Bees. I suggest you start, too. regional and local news coverage/media are the wave of the future.
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    Image of Iceland Spar Iceland Spar
    01/06/09

    @VirginUrgin: Have you read NYT's local coverage - I actually think its pretty great (better than you would find in papers that existed soley for local coverage). I'm terrible spelling names, but Raushbaum (?), Confessore and a few others over there are fanastic.
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    Image of DoctorNine DoctorNine
    01/06/09

    @Baroness: "..The day that the New York Times goes out of business is the day our pretense at civilized society in this country is permanently ended..."


    Oh hogwash. Getting information from a sheaf of pulped paper has become economically and environmentally unsound. If the content is valuable, then it should be relatively easy to transition to an electronic medium. It's only a matter of figuring out how to secure a revenue stream. Science journals, as of this writing, frequently have both free and subscriber content. The NYT can too.


    On the other hand, I doubt that there is that much interest in buying a subscription to a bale of someone elses opinions. Genuine reportage will have no such limitation. I guess they just aren't so important that they can frame the news as if they owned deed and title to it. And THAT is a GOOD thing.

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    Image of Carol Gardens Carol Gardens
    01/06/09

    In reply to 'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'
    Don't forget that Hirschorn was VH1's "Celebreality Guru" so he knows hard news. (No, really, it was a good article, although he admits that the chance of the NYT actually going out of biz this spring is "slim". I'd say "to none" because they will sell part of the building, sports team, etc. before they let that happen.)
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    Image of Dickdogfood Dickdogfood
    01/06/09

    In reply to 'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'
    My blog lives and dies by the Times' free archives, so if the paper goes all digital as Hirschorn predicts, I will feel obligated to pay for some kind of subscription. (Throwing money at it now, though, seems dreadfully pointless.)
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    01/06/09

    In reply to 'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'
    We cannot let this happen...yet I still cannot bring myself to pay for something that I can get for free. And I'm beginning to understand mens' reluctance to marry.
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    Image of Lymed Lymed
    01/06/09

    @misslinda: Maybe if you just click on every ad on their webpage, it would be like paying for your own subscription
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    Image of Beautiful Stranger Beautiful Stranger
    01/06/09

    In reply to 'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'
    The scariest part about the demise of the NYT would be Rupert Murdoch's monopoly on newsprint in NYC


    it was always Rupert's intention to destroy the NYT with the WSJ and thanks to the Sulzberger family's ineptitude Rupert didn't even have to spend a dime to accomplish it

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    Image of Dickdogfood Dickdogfood
    01/06/09

    @Beautiful Stranger: But, as Hirschorn says, having a monopoly on NYC newsprint means a whole less now than ever before.
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    Image of Beautiful Stranger Beautiful Stranger
    01/06/09

    In reply to 'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'
    Maybe Nick Denton could buy the bankrupt times and make the New York Times website one of Gawker's sister sites.


    Tbe synergies would be amazing. Mister Hippity could live blog world events for us.


    And Sinister Rouge could replace Maureen Dowd on the op-ed page!

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    Image of Khrushchev Khrushchev
    01/06/09

    @Beautiful Stranger: A-HA!
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    Image of britneyspearstears britneyspearstears
    01/06/09

    @Beautiful Stranger: Everyone looks good in a Sheinhardt...
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    01/06/09

    @Beautiful Stranger: Mr. Hippity with a Press Pass. Great idea!
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    Image of Beautiful Stranger Beautiful Stranger
    01/06/09

    In reply to 'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'
    i remember when my Details Magazine was terminated by Conde Naste and they replaced my subscription with a subscription to GQ.


    What will my subscription to the New York Times be replaced with?

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    Image of lululemming lululemming
    01/06/09

    @Beautiful Stranger: Cat Fancy?
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    Image of lululemming lululemming
    01/06/09

    @lululemming: LIvejournal premium?
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    Image of Iceland Spar Iceland Spar
    01/06/09

    @Beautiful Stranger: A cold, empty place where journalism used to be.


    (Which was also where a group of insane, snobby, left-wing, elites used to be, but the reporting sections had much more content than the editorial.)

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    Image of Beautiful Stranger Beautiful Stranger
    01/06/09

    @Iceland_Spar: thank god we will still have Gawker and its fearless editors to show us the light at the end of the tunnel now and forever
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    Image of Sproing Sproing
    01/06/09

    @Beautiful Stranger: The Newark Star-Ledger.
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    Image of Iceland Spar Iceland Spar
    01/06/09

    @Beautiful Stranger: Not if they keep leaving! We're down to like three (After today's review of The City, I'm not convinced Parnee and Richard are actually separate people).
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    Image of Lymed Lymed
    01/06/09

    @Iceland_Spar: Just wait for the email: Due to the furthering economic decline, Nick Denton no longer finds Gawker economically viable. You may choose to have your Gawker password work as a login to one of these three websites: ap.com, cuteoverload.com or americanapparel.com.
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    Image of mmstk101 mmstk101
    01/06/09

    @Lymed: cuteoverload.com all the way!
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    Image of TheHonJudgeSmails TheHonJudgeSmails
    01/06/09

    In reply to 'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'
    They just need a Chief Innovation Officer.
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    Image of Jenniferhdaniel Jenniferhdaniel
    01/07/09

    @TheHonJudgeSmails: HA!
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    Image of Iceland Spar Iceland Spar
    01/06/09

    In reply to 'What if the New York Times goes out of business—like, this May?'
    then I will have overpaid for my iPhone's NYT cross word subscription by four months.
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    Image of DavidWatts DavidWatts
    11/07/08

    In reply to Jordan Carlos Tackles The Obama Comedy Crisis!
    I am so proud that our biggest problem with our new president is that he's seemingly impossible to mock. Please keep that up.
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    Image of RonMwangaguhunga RonMwangaguhunga
    11/07/08

    In reply to Jordan Carlos Tackles The Obama Comedy Crisis!
    Now that we've put come flava up in the White House, the next, great frontier for people of color: the writing rooms at the late night comedy shows. You've got to be-lieve!
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