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    Image of onebadclam onebadclam
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    LRH doesn't do subtle.
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    Image of limber limber
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    Yeah, I'm going to interpret that peculiar delivery by Voiceover Man as a carefully disguised cry for help.
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    Image of thatgirlinnewyork thatgirlinnewyork
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    does anyone know why the CO$ uses the cross as a symbol? pardon my ignorance, but does the "technology" associate with anything akin to christianity?
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    Image of limber limber
    12/15/09

    @thatgirlinnewyork: I'm sure there's an alternative answer they'd give, but from what I understand they swept it up while accumulating a grab-bag of religious "stuff" to start doing when the IRS began seriously looking at them.

    It was just part of the crossover from self-help series to "religion". And that window dressing, plus a little well-financed blackmailing of the IRS, is what got them where they are today.
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    Image of thatgirlinnewyork thatgirlinnewyork
    12/16/09

    @limber: i knew it would follow good logic. thanks!
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    Image of femputer femputer
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    I've wondered before why on Earth any organization would choose central fucking florida as a base....I get it now! CLEARwater. Too funny. These people are so corny it hurts.
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    Image of limber limber
    12/15/09

    @femputer: You should take a look at how they got into Clearwater in the first place -- a cover organization, major real estate buys, and then the sudden and unpleasant realization by the locals one day that they'd been snookered by a cult.
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    Image of westward ho westward ho
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    Miscavige sounds like a pack-a-day smoker.
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    forwardmotion promoted this comment westward ho was starred westward ho was unstarred
    Image of forwardmotion forwardmotion
    12/15/09

    @westward ho: To me, he sounds like a slightly drunk Maury Povich.
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    Image of thatgirlinnewyork thatgirlinnewyork
    12/15/09

    @forwardmotion: i was thinking sylvester, the WB/merry melodies cat.
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    Image of forwardmotion forwardmotion
    12/15/09

    @thatgirlinnewyork: Yeah. It's the smoker voice combined with the slight frontal lisp.
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    Image of lobstr lobstr
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    Holy shit the 3d is impressively insane. Just knowing what 3d artists cost, the production of that shit alone has to be well into the 6 figures.
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    Image of thatgirlinnewyork thatgirlinnewyork
    12/15/09

    @lobstr: probably snagged some cheap talent when caesar's palace trimmed design staff in the slowdown.
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    Image of limber limber
    12/15/09

    @lobstr: They do all their own production work out on Gold Base, from what I understand. So that shit is free! FREE!
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    Image of Volsciana Volsciana
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    When he eventually got out they sent people to his place of work to tell his boss he was secretly a convicted rapist and pedophile.

    My god how horrendous. I wonder how many people they have done the same thing to - probably enough not to reveal the sources identity.
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    Image of Dr. Nick Dr. Nick
    12/15/09

    @Volsciana: pretty much everyone who tries to leave Scientology has a similar story. They "audit" (confess their secrets), and then when they leave, the upper echelons go through the auditing files, add to them, then go after people. It's psychotic.
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    femputer promoted this comment Dr. Nick was starred Dr. Nick was unstarred
    Image of femputer femputer
    12/15/09

    @Dr. Nick: So he is a pedophile, rapist then? Yeah, I'd keep a low profile, too.
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    Image of Dr. Nick Dr. Nick
    12/15/09

    @femputer: note that I said "add to them." It's a common Scientology tactic called "noisy investigation": they make wild accusations against people in hopes that enough people will believe the accusations that it ruins the people's lives.
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    Image of toweringinferno toweringinferno
    12/15/09

    @femputer: years ago when the did an interview on 60 Minutes with Ed Bradley, the PR guy at the time said it was part of their ideology that ANYONE who disagreed with their crazy organization was a criminal...literally, a criminal. These people have horrible problems.
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    femputer promoted this comment toweringinferno was starred toweringinferno was unstarred
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    12/15/09

    @Dr. Nick: Nasty. I believe it, too.
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    Keep up the good work, Ravi / Denton / Gawker. But your phones are probably tapped by the Office of Special Operations.
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    Image of Dr. Nick Dr. Nick
    12/15/09

    @BadUncle: Seriously. If they can break into government agencies in numerous countries, they're probably reading your email. They might have plants in your organization, too.
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    BadUncle promoted this comment Dr. Nick was starred Dr. Nick was unstarred
    Image of Dr. Nick Dr. Nick
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    They went after Colombia and Bolivia because, really, you've got to be coked to the tits to believe this shit.
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    Image of TheUptightMidwesterner TheUptightMidwesterner
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    Most of the cops, firefighters, and "disaster relief personnel" I know are too exhausted to keep up their once a week Lutheran obligations. I seriously doubt there are too many that are Scientologists, what with auditing, videos, spreading the crazy, buying buildings in poor neighborhoods to make centers, etc.
    It's a lot of freaking work to be in a cult.
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    Zelda Fitzgerald said they always tried to follow the philosophy of popular songs, so I wonder about this line from Leonard Cohen's Famous Blue Raincoat.

    Jane came
    by with a lock of your hair ...
    She said that you gave it to her ...
    The night you planned to go clear ...
    Did you ever go clear?

    I always wondered who the players were. I'll bet we know them.
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    Image of GregorMendel GregorMendel
    12/15/09

    @Tremonius: Yay Wikepedia.

    "However, in the liner notes to 1975's The Best of Leonard Cohen, which includes the song, he alludes that the famous blue raincoat to which he refers actually belonged to him, and not someone else:

    'I had a good raincoat then, a Burberry I got in London in 1959. Elizabeth thought I looked like a spider in it. That was probably why she wouldn't go to Greece with me. It hung more heroically when I took out the lining, and achieved glory when the frayed sleeves were repaired with a little leather. Things were clear. I knew how to dress in those days. It was stolen from Marianne's loft in New York sometime during the early seventies. I wasn't wearing it very much toward the end.'"
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    Tremonius promoted this comment GregorMendel was starred GregorMendel was unstarred
    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    12/15/09

    @GregorMendel: I ask some questions I don't want the answer to, like, where was god standing when he made everything?
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    Image of GregorMendel GregorMendel
    12/15/09

    @Tremonius: I googled that. She tweeted Her Heavenly Coordinates.
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    Image of yourfriendandneighbor yourfriendandneighbor
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    That intro was way too long. I couldn't make it through. They should hire a new editor.
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    Image of TabithaIapetus TabithaIapetus
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    Why do I feel like he is trying to sell me a ShamWow?
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    Atilla the Bun promoted this comment TabithaIapetus was starred TabithaIapetus was unstarred
    Image of britneyspearstears britneyspearstears
    12/15/09

    @TabithaIapetus: you're spot on--minus the Wow.
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    Image of TabithaIapetus TabithaIapetus
    12/15/09

    @britneyspearstears: Brava Brittney!
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    Image of ManchuCandidate ManchuCandidate
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    I get the feeling that Scientology really should have been founded by two intelligent lab mice.

    "Gee, L. Ron. What are we going to do tonight?"
    "The same thing we do every night, David. Try to take over the world!"
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    Image of restless restless
    12/15/09

    @ManchuCandidate: Wasn't that also the whole premise of the "Secret of N.I.M.P.H." ? I mean, really intelligent rats who are smarter than L.Ron Hubbard.

    FTW— Nice "Pinky and the Brain" ref.
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    m4ximusprim3 promoted this comment Edited by restless at 12/15/09 11:10 AM restless was starred restless was unstarred
    Image of Rufus-T-Firecrotch Rufus-T-Firecrotch
    12/15/09

    @ManchuCandidate: "Are you pondering what I am pondering, David?"
    "I think so, L. Ron, but wouldn't Tom Cruise look ridiculous in culottes?"
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    Ravi Somaiya promoted this comment Rufus-T-Firecrotch was starred Rufus-T-Firecrotch was unstarred
    Image of m4ximusprim3 m4ximusprim3
    12/15/09

    @restless: I don't think there was a P- it was N.I.M.H., for National Institute of Mental Health.

    I read that book a LOT when I was little :)
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    Image of yourfriendandneighbor yourfriendandneighbor
    12/15/09

    @restless: ha. it's Nimh. Not Nimph, ya nymph.
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    Image of restless restless
    12/15/09

    @yourfriendandneighbor: Oh, crikies. I've become Google-dependent in my dotage—shoulda looked it up.

    Please revoke my nerd license privileges for the day.

    Also, how kick-ass was the animated movie? Answer: Very kick-ass.
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    Image of thatgirlinnewyork thatgirlinnewyork
    12/15/09

    @restless: wonderful book, but was afraid to see the animated feature, for fear that they'd ruin it the way they did james and the giant peach, others. that good?
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    12/15/09

    @thatgirlinnewyork: Mmmhmm! Loved it as a kid. Here's a link: [www.imdb.com]
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    Image of thatgirlinnewyork thatgirlinnewyork
    12/15/09

    @restless: goody! thanks!
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    Image of cpjones cpjones
    12/15/09

    In reply to Scientology: 'The Crusade' Continues
    I'll have to take your word for it in what these videos are saying. I've always feared I would become hypnotized by these wackos if I watched any of their indoctrination/celebratiton paraphernalia (sarcasm). However that first picture screen grab looks like the gayest Greek/Roman Halloween party homage I've ever seen or maybe a discarded Espys stage set.
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