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    Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno

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    Image of JennaW JennaW
    11/03/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    Life was an excellent drama, but they cancelled it in favor of Jay's "show."

    It isn't that NBC is incapable of launching a decent drama; it's that they're incapable of recognizing and supporting the good stuff. As for Southland, I've never seen anything so insane as the way they handled that. That was stupider than the CW bringing back Seventh Heaven after it had ended.

    NBC, excepting two half-hours on Thursday, is dead to me. #jayleno
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    Truly did anyone actually think this was a viable idea? When I heard about it I thought it was a joke.

    And, sorry, but I never see Leno without remembering back in the days when live dinosaurs roamed around "The Comedy Store" in L.A. and Jay did a stand up there. He apparently visited the restroom prior to coming on stage and failed to shake Mr. Happy enough to completely dry him. It was hard to focus on his enormous chin with that wet spot just above eye level. #jayleno
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    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    The best thing on late night is Craig Ferguson. #jayleno
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    Image of Brian Frederick Brian Frederick
    11/03/09

    @BxgrlJeri: True. I'd like to see Leno do a cold open doing a lip synch of MMMBop. #jayleno
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    Image of DTurkin DTurkin
    11/03/09

    @BxgrlJeri: Jimmy Fallon has good writers but a worse delivery, while Craig Ferguson has crap writers and great delivery.

    I used to watch a bit of Leno and O'Brian, now I might watch Ferguson but usually I can't be bothered. #jayleno
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    Image of jakay jakay
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    Leno is the reason shows like Eastwick haven't been canceled yet. #jayleno
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    Image of hotpinklovesofa hotpinklovesofa
    11/02/09

    @jakay: Seriously! Leno and Conan are both so boring. I wonder how much of it is them and how much of it is NBC's S&P dept. It's late night, relax already. Has anyone noticed any significant difference between Tonight Show by Leno and Tonight by Conan? - same thing dude. Boring, safe, blah, whatever. #jayleno
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    Image of HenryLovesFonzie HenryLovesFonzie
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    Conan is the shit. #jayleno
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    Image of TheSometimesWhy TheSometimesWhy
    11/02/09

    @HenryLovesFonzie: Funny how a little thing like a definite article makes all the difference. "Conan is THE shit" versus "Conan is shit."

    Less has never been more... #jayleno
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    Image of gigabitten gigabitten
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    Dump the car races and bring back the Fruitcake Lady.
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    11/02/09

    @gigabitten: Um, the Fruitcake Lady died... #jayleno
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    Image of BowlingForDollars BowlingForDollars
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    If they are gonna make some changes, I would also like to see that tool Carson Daly off the air. That show is the worrrrrst. #jayleno
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    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    I never thought I'd say this, but Jay Leno's right. And Conan really shouldn't be in LA at 11:35 - he should be in NY at 12:35. He's got his wings clipped and is struggling to get great guests.

    Unfortunately, doing that with the shape these two are in right now could just exacerbate the whole situation. It's like building a ship in a bottle and then realizing that you forgot to build it inside the bottle. #jayleno
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    11/02/09

    @Poop Cooper: Nice analogy, simile, whatever. #jayleno
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    11/02/09

    @Tart of Darkness: Crap! I don't have an edit pencil! I forgot "metaphor". I never metaphor I didn't like. #jayleno
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    Image of Spirit Fingers Spirit Fingers
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    I don't see the big problem with NBC coming up dramas that work. The basic cable networks don't seem to have any problems in that area. In fact, USA, which is owned by NBC hasn't had any trouble with their new shows. Most of them are good, if not critically acclaimed shows. There isn't gratuitous sex, violence, or foul language in nary a one (Well, Burn Notice blows things up every now and again.)...so I don't get what the issues are regarding finding good shows.

    I think they're waaayyy to afraid of middle America. That contingent that can't handle not seeing Jay Leno in some form. I mean goodness, the local news affiliates are complaining because these folks tend to turn off the TV and go to bed once Jay is done, and not stay up for the local newscasts. I really can't see why the network would marginalize everyone in this way. Seems lazy. How hard can it be to go through the copious scripts and find something that works, that isn't a cop/hospital/EMT/legal drama with mediums, ghosts, or reality simpletons? And if the new "V" rocks on ABC, when it was shown on NBC in the first place, then there really is no hope for those who make decisions at that place. #jayleno
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    I'm the guy when Coke or Pepsi is here, I come down and shake hands and take pictures

    Well, there goes the idea of the comedian as social critic and scourge of the establishment. These days, the Fool golfs with Lear. #jayleno
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    Image of marciax3 marciax3
    11/02/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: He wrote speeches for George W. Bush. He's no Fool, he's Gloucester, always has been. #jayleno
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    Image of TedSez TedSez
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    Letterman recently had on the author of I'm Dying Up Here, about the early stand-up comedy scene in the '70s, and used the opportunity to call Leno a loudmouth who nobody liked (complete with a long, terrible, squeaky-voice Leno impression). If Dave weren't famous for being a dyspeptic curmudgeon, it would have seemed uncharacteristically nasty. #jayleno
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    Image of ShawnP ShawnP
    11/02/09

    @TedSez: I thought it was pretty funny. But I guess I'm a fan of dyspeptic curmudgeonliness (sp?). Also, everyone's Leno impression is terrible, including Leno's. #jayleno
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    Image of joe_gillis joe_gillis
    11/02/09

    @TedSez: Interesting since I have a distict memory of Lenno on Lettermans' short-lived daytime show in the early 8o's--during the period after it was canncelled but still on the air and Letterman was really loose. I remember thinking these two must be good buds because they were having such a good time together and neither seemed to think much of NBC. #jayleno
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    Image of CODiva CODiva
    11/02/09

    @joe_gillis: did you mean NNBC? #jayleno
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    Image of ShawnP ShawnP
    11/02/09

    @joe_gillis: They were definitely pals before the Carson succession fight - Jay was on Dave's "Late Night" show about a billion times. #jayleno
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    Image of Tart of Darkness Tart of Darkness
    11/02/09

    @joe_gillis: OMG! I didn't know there was another living being that remembered the daytime show!! I LOVED Letterman on that which is why I find him such a disappointing old poop now. Remember that on his last show they somehow set the confetti on the stage on fire? #jayleno
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    Image of applejuice applejuice
    11/03/09

    @Tart of Darkness: My mom used to watch it when I was little. I have weird, disjointed, dreamlike memories of it. My mom loved it. #jayleno
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    Image of Island of Misfit Toys Island of Misfit Toys
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    I thought everyone was happy with Conan because he was making a killing with the 18-45 audience. #jayleno
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    Image of SpyMagician SpyMagician
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    Hey, I have a crazy idea. How about ABC or CBS has a non-White male talkshow host behind a desk telling jokes and interviewing people?

    It’s simply astonishing to me that there are at least 5 white male talkshow hosts on during late night nowadays. #jayleno
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    Image of warpuppy warpuppy
    11/02/09

    @SpyMagician: Agreed... it'll be interesting to see how Wanda Sykes fares over at FOX. #jayleno
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    Image of badasscat badasscat
    11/02/09

    @SpyMagician: And this would do what for their ratings?

    Not sure you're really getting the point of this post. #jayleno
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    Image of CODiva CODiva
    11/02/09

    @warpuppy: Yeah... I'm not liking where this kind of programming is headed. #jayleno
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    11/02/09

    @badasscat: I got the point of the post. And you know what? All of late night TV nowadays is bland, uncreative and predictable.

    I loved Letterman before he moved to CBS. Now? You know, sex scandal aside I could barely watch any of his CBS shows.

    The point of my response is any discussion of late night TV that does not acknowledge the homogeneity of the playing field right now ignores the larger picture.

    I’ve been more entertained by comedy & cute animal videos on YouTube. Seriously. #jayleno
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    Image of Paul_Is_Drunk Paul_Is_Drunk
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    Returning Leno to the 11:30 slot would be an even bigger disaster for NBC, especially since they'd have to wait a year minimum to get it going.

    Somehow, I expect that's exactly what they're going to do. #jayleno
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    Image of sweetpickles sweetpickles
    11/02/09

    @Paul_Is_Drunk: It might be a disaster for a few months, but Conan sucks at the 11:30 slot. He needs to back as badly as Leno the populist needs to go back his old time slot. Both are being wasted. And Jimmy Fallon isn't being fired. #jayleno
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    11/02/09

    @sweetpickles: Yeah, pretty much. #jayleno
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    Image of lobstr lobstr
    11/02/09

    In reply to Latest Critic of the The Jay Leno Show Experiment: Jay Leno
    I read the entire transcript, and it's interesting how Leno doesn't acknowledge how the content of his show is incredibly horribly unwatchable horseshit. "Headlines" remain the one funny element, and even that is viewer-submitted. Watch the Pee-Wee interview and ask yourself why this show gets a pass for continued under-mediocrity... it's pure crap. #jayleno
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    11/02/09

    @lobstr: I agree. It's painfully weak. And when you mix that up with awkward, too-plushy seating that showcases pants-legs, it's just not good. #jayleno
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