Life was an excellent drama, but they cancelled it in favor of Jay's "show."
It isn't that NBC is incapable of launching a decent drama; it's that they're incapable of recognizing and supporting the good stuff. As for Southland, I've never seen anything so insane as the way they handled that. That was stupider than the CW bringing back Seventh Heaven after it had ended.
NBC, excepting two half-hours on Thursday, is dead to me. #jayleno
Truly did anyone actually think this was a viable idea? When I heard about it I thought it was a joke.
And, sorry, but I never see Leno without remembering back in the days when live dinosaurs roamed around "The Comedy Store" in L.A. and Jay did a stand up there. He apparently visited the restroom prior to coming on stage and failed to shake Mr. Happy enough to completely dry him. It was hard to focus on his enormous chin with that wet spot just above eye level. #jayleno
@jakay: Seriously! Leno and Conan are both so boring. I wonder how much of it is them and how much of it is NBC's S&P dept. It's late night, relax already. Has anyone noticed any significant difference between Tonight Show by Leno and Tonight by Conan? - same thing dude. Boring, safe, blah, whatever. #jayleno
I never thought I'd say this, but Jay Leno's right. And Conan really shouldn't be in LA at 11:35 - he should be in NY at 12:35. He's got his wings clipped and is struggling to get great guests.
Unfortunately, doing that with the shape these two are in right now could just exacerbate the whole situation. It's like building a ship in a bottle and then realizing that you forgot to build it inside the bottle. #jayleno
I don't see the big problem with NBC coming up dramas that work. The basic cable networks don't seem to have any problems in that area. In fact, USA, which is owned by NBC hasn't had any trouble with their new shows. Most of them are good, if not critically acclaimed shows. There isn't gratuitous sex, violence, or foul language in nary a one (Well, Burn Notice blows things up every now and again.)...so I don't get what the issues are regarding finding good shows.
I think they're waaayyy to afraid of middle America. That contingent that can't handle not seeing Jay Leno in some form. I mean goodness, the local news affiliates are complaining because these folks tend to turn off the TV and go to bed once Jay is done, and not stay up for the local newscasts. I really can't see why the network would marginalize everyone in this way. Seems lazy. How hard can it be to go through the copious scripts and find something that works, that isn't a cop/hospital/EMT/legal drama with mediums, ghosts, or reality simpletons? And if the new "V" rocks on ABC, when it was shown on NBC in the first place, then there really is no hope for those who make decisions at that place. #jayleno
Letterman recently had on the author of I'm Dying Up Here, about the early stand-up comedy scene in the '70s, and used the opportunity to call Leno a loudmouth who nobody liked (complete with a long, terrible, squeaky-voice Leno impression). If Dave weren't famous for being a dyspeptic curmudgeon, it would have seemed uncharacteristically nasty. #jayleno
@TedSez: I thought it was pretty funny. But I guess I'm a fan of dyspeptic curmudgeonliness (sp?). Also, everyone's Leno impression is terrible, including Leno's. #jayleno
@TedSez: Interesting since I have a distict memory of Lenno on Lettermans' short-lived daytime show in the early 8o's--during the period after it was canncelled but still on the air and Letterman was really loose. I remember thinking these two must be good buds because they were having such a good time together and neither seemed to think much of NBC. #jayleno
@joe_gillis: OMG! I didn't know there was another living being that remembered the daytime show!! I LOVED Letterman on that which is why I find him such a disappointing old poop now. Remember that on his last show they somehow set the confetti on the stage on fire? #jayleno
@badasscat: I got the point of the post. And you know what? All of late night TV nowadays is bland, uncreative and predictable.
I loved Letterman before he moved to CBS. Now? You know, sex scandal aside I could barely watch any of his CBS shows.
The point of my response is any discussion of late night TV that does not acknowledge the homogeneity of the playing field right now ignores the larger picture.
I’ve been more entertained by comedy & cute animal videos on YouTube. Seriously. #jayleno
@Paul_Is_Drunk: It might be a disaster for a few months, but Conan sucks at the 11:30 slot. He needs to back as badly as Leno the populist needs to go back his old time slot. Both are being wasted. And Jimmy Fallon isn't being fired. #jayleno
I read the entire transcript, and it's interesting how Leno doesn't acknowledge how the content of his show is incredibly horribly unwatchable horseshit. "Headlines" remain the one funny element, and even that is viewer-submitted. Watch the Pee-Wee interview and ask yourself why this show gets a pass for continued under-mediocrity... it's pure crap. #jayleno
@lobstr: I agree. It's painfully weak. And when you mix that up with awkward, too-plushy seating that showcases pants-legs, it's just not good. #jayleno
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It isn't that NBC is incapable of launching a decent drama; it's that they're incapable of recognizing and supporting the good stuff. As for Southland, I've never seen anything so insane as the way they handled that. That was stupider than the CW bringing back Seventh Heaven after it had ended.
NBC, excepting two half-hours on Thursday, is dead to me. #jayleno
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And, sorry, but I never see Leno without remembering back in the days when live dinosaurs roamed around "The Comedy Store" in L.A. and Jay did a stand up there. He apparently visited the restroom prior to coming on stage and failed to shake Mr. Happy enough to completely dry him. It was hard to focus on his enormous chin with that wet spot just above eye level. #jayleno
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I used to watch a bit of Leno and O'Brian, now I might watch Ferguson but usually I can't be bothered. #jayleno
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Less has never been more... #jayleno
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Unfortunately, doing that with the shape these two are in right now could just exacerbate the whole situation. It's like building a ship in a bottle and then realizing that you forgot to build it inside the bottle. #jayleno
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I think they're waaayyy to afraid of middle America. That contingent that can't handle not seeing Jay Leno in some form. I mean goodness, the local news affiliates are complaining because these folks tend to turn off the TV and go to bed once Jay is done, and not stay up for the local newscasts. I really can't see why the network would marginalize everyone in this way. Seems lazy. How hard can it be to go through the copious scripts and find something that works, that isn't a cop/hospital/EMT/legal drama with mediums, ghosts, or reality simpletons? And if the new "V" rocks on ABC, when it was shown on NBC in the first place, then there really is no hope for those who make decisions at that place. #jayleno
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Well, there goes the idea of the comedian as social critic and scourge of the establishment. These days, the Fool golfs with Lear. #jayleno
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It’s simply astonishing to me that there are at least 5 white male talkshow hosts on during late night nowadays. #jayleno
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Not sure you're really getting the point of this post. #jayleno
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I loved Letterman before he moved to CBS. Now? You know, sex scandal aside I could barely watch any of his CBS shows.
The point of my response is any discussion of late night TV that does not acknowledge the homogeneity of the playing field right now ignores the larger picture.
I’ve been more entertained by comedy & cute animal videos on YouTube. Seriously. #jayleno
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Somehow, I expect that's exactly what they're going to do. #jayleno
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