Uh, why are we dismissing conspiracy so quickly? This is huge. Back before we agreed on a single currency, different banks printed their own. Who is to say that this isn't the official currency of the shadow government?
More likely though it's an operation meant to be publicized, either as a distraction, or for some other purpose. It's a huge amount, so one would think every financial crime lawperson in Europe would be involved with this until it quiets down. But then again there's no reason to suspect that the european financial crimes people aren't dirty.
Doesn't the North Koreans dabble in counterfeit US currency? This definitely wouldn't be out of their realm of suspicious behaviors. Who knows if the two people in custody are really Japanese nationals. North Korean officials have been known to travel using fake passports all the time.
"Dabble" is putting it mildly, from what I've heard. That, with methamphetamine production, international insurance fraud (see today's Washington Post) and other skullduggery are what prop up the regime's position and lifestyle. At the risk of overstatement, imagine a feudal lord (or Tony Soprano) with nuclear aspirations.
The thing is, why would he go on Olbermann if he thought the whole thing was a hoax. It seems as though his intentions were in the right place. It would have been a different story if he came out of it saying that by no means was it torture.
It seems like from the beginning he said he thought it would be "a joke" because he didn't think it was torture and that he could take it (he admitted as much on Olbermann).
He got someone to do it, who obviously didn't know what he was doing - but I don't see why half-assed waterboarding couldn't have been more torturous than he expected.
I get this could have all been for ratings (either way you look at it, it was), but I don't get why he would change his opinion on it. That, to me, seemed genuine.
@MacnairEetion: Yes. To me, the fact that it was half-assed but he still claimed it was tortured is still a win for the anti-torture crowd. No brainer!
If they did it the "proper way", I'm sure he'd be even more scared shitless. So this is really a non-issue in my mind.
"Yeah, Derek claims his frat house was torturing him during initiation, but it was a total mulligan. He was laughing and drinking beers the whole time. That hanging part was a little weird, though. If it had gone on any longer it would have been a total hutchence."
Who cares? You still haven't given us a reason as to why, if Mancow faked it, he would claim it was torture, given that he held the opposite opinion before.
Until you can answer that one simple question, give it a rest.
@econdave: Well, one reason would be to get on Olbermann and generate a lot of publicity. But it doesn't need diabolical premeditation to be fake. Just a half-assed attempt at getting publicity that doesn't answer any questions about waterboarding and its merits or demerits. I don't think it has any merits. But I don't want my case to be made on bullshit stunts carried out by idiots.
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More likely though it's an operation meant to be publicized, either as a distraction, or for some other purpose. It's a huge amount, so one would think every financial crime lawperson in Europe would be involved with this until it quiets down. But then again there's no reason to suspect that the european financial crimes people aren't dirty.
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"Dabble" is putting it mildly, from what I've heard. That, with methamphetamine production, international insurance fraud (see today's Washington Post) and other skullduggery are what prop up the regime's position and lifestyle. At the risk of overstatement, imagine a feudal lord (or Tony Soprano) with nuclear aspirations.
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Nice, Nice Beaver
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He got someone to do it, who obviously didn't know what he was doing - but I don't see why half-assed waterboarding couldn't have been more torturous than he expected.
I get this could have all been for ratings (either way you look at it, it was), but I don't get why he would change his opinion on it. That, to me, seemed genuine.
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If they did it the "proper way", I'm sure he'd be even more scared shitless. So this is really a non-issue in my mind.
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"Yeah, Derek claims his frat house was torturing him during initiation, but it was a total mulligan. He was laughing and drinking beers the whole time. That hanging part was a little weird, though. If it had gone on any longer it would have been a total hutchence."
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Until you can answer that one simple question, give it a rest.
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