Fair enough. Let Michael Savage speak. Can't keep this out of the UK...
You know, when I see a woman walking around with a burqa, I see a Nazi. That's what I see -- how do you like that? -- a hateful Nazi who would like to cut your throat and kill your children. Don't give me this crap that they're doing it out of a sacred ritual or rite. It's not required by the Quran that a woman walk around in a seventh-century drape. She's doing it to spit in your face. She's saying, "You white moron, you, I'm going to kill you if I can." That's how I see it!
God abhors a spiritual vacuum. That is why he has permitted, in fact probably not only permitted, but in a way orchestrated the rise of radical Islam.
[...] It's becoming increasingly clear to me that God wants radical Islam on this planet at this time -- that it's not actually the scourge you think it is. What it is -- it's a counterpoint to the Romanization of the United States of America and the West. The collapse -- the spiritual collapse of the West, the death of the West in that regard, is being countered by the birth of fanatic religion, which is fundamentally a fanatic love of God, when you think about it.
[...] And God, who is the center of this monotheistic religion, has said, "Oh, you don't worship me anymore? Oh, you don't like me anymore? Oh, I don't exist anymore? Really? All right, I'm going to show you boys in Hollywood and you girls in New York City that I do exist. But since you're very hard-headed, stiff-necked people, and you don't really believe that I exist because you've gotten away with everything you've done all your life without any repercussions, I'm going to show you I exist in a way that you can't believe." Down came the World Trade Center towers. That was God speaking.
California, unfortunately, is in the hands of the far-left homosexual mafia. They unfortunately don't even understand what's good for them. They don't understand that voting on the left side of everything is actually in their disinterest, not in their interest -- that if they gay community ever understood what's in their interest they'd become conservatives, by and large. But they are also very confused, as anyone could figure out by their death-style."
The exact extent to which Michael Savage attacked the Dixie Chicks for their 2003 comments and participated in their blackballing by country radio by exhorting his listeners to jump on the band wagon in getting them band is the extent to which I am enjoying this story. It's not like this skid mark gives a flying fuck about anyone else's free speech. Anyone who didn't find all-white, all-male 60s leftist radicalism fascist enough is just a jerkoff who is clearly compensating for a lack of, well, probably everything. Fuck him.
You know what the worst thing is? Every time I see this guy's name, I always have to think, wait, is this the one who called gay marriage in Iowa a "victory for perversion," or is this the guy who tells gay virgins to lube up before anal sex? I think there should be a Savage v. Savage face-off.
@sample032: Yeah, well, the Germans, Japanese and the French have been doing it for 60 years, now. Life goes on. Or it will if you speak louder into my lapel microphone.
@sample032: No, dude, it's actual law in action. It has been like that since the end of WWII. For example, Germany has suppressed right wing speech, nazi publications and the public display of swastikas. It's *the law*. Clue up on EU civil liberties, and don't make inane comparisons.
@BadUncle: By the way, yeah, it's the law, but I happen to agree with sample032 here (never thought I'd write that) -- it's wrong. Barring people from entering any country for things they've said is wrong (with a few extreme exceptions); so is banning the public use of Nazi symbols. There should be an open market of ideas so that truth can win out. This is one area where I happen to be an absolutist libertarian.
@eatsshootsleaves: "with a few extreme exceptions" just totally fucks your stupid rule in the ass. What you're now saying is that the PRINCIPLE of the rule is correct, but what you really object to is that you're not fucking in charge of who's in and who's out.
Pretty much anyone who actually disagrees with Savage being barred from the country probably thinks the same as you.
@Pope John Peeps II: Anyway, let me expand on that. I really think that no one should be barred from coming into a country because of their views. But if their views involve telling people that they should blow up the office of the government, I think that becomes a matter of national security. I don't know how you took what I wrote and got this:
"What you're now saying is that the PRINCIPLE of the rule is correct, but what you really object to is that you're not fucking in charge of who's in and who's out."
Savage's views are atrocious. There are some people who probably feel the same way about MY views, however. What I care about is actually the exact opposite of what you're talking about; I don't want people to decide who's in and who's out. I want everybody in.
That the UK would bother to add a US talk show host to thier list just makes me wonder which nutty US rights group wasted even more money - not on their cause - but on paying someone off to get his name on this list.
I may not agree with Savage but he does have a right to say what he says. You may not like it but it's his opinion and he is protected by the constitution.
@uncivily obedient: You may not agree with England but she does have a right to say what she says. You may not like it but it's her opinion and she is protected by whatever the fuck they got in place over there, homes.
@slainte_pants: You are right, and I do agree they have a right to do what they like in their own country, obviously. But I think that you represent what is wrong with so many people in this country today. That England would ban Savage you undersand, but I'm sure it bothers you that Savage is allowed to say what he says.
The point is that you and I or whomever don't agree with his opinions, but if he will be stopped from speaking maybe it will be Keith Olbermann next. Its not about the ideas or opinions, its about the ability to speak.
@Pope John Peeps II: Re-read it. No complaint about their action. I may have implied that it wasn't done sincerely, but I wouldn't say they had no right to do it. They're a sovereign country, they can do whatever the hell they want to.
@uncivily obedient: How in the world is his right to speak in the US being infringed? And your assertion that someone was "paid off" would beg some kind of proof.
@uncivily obedient: haha well you sort of blithely referred to the fact that the British Home Office doesn't make its own decisions but is in fact bribed by "US rights groups", and then appealed to the US constitution for a defense of Savage.
So it's true, you didn't assume that Britain wasn't sovereign, you just assumed that the whole government is corrupt.
Most of our politicians are total tools, Jacqui Smith being the entire toolbox plus a few spare allen keys and a few of those random screws you keep finding in the doorway. Please see the link below.
Love lots, your former-oppressor-turned-underling,
@Almostbanned: Yeah, that's pretty rough. It happens a lot in Canada since, like britain, we let in persecuted refugees, or people who face punishment upon returning to their countries. The only hope for us and our ridiculous, wimpy Parliament is if the UK finally explodes and rightly bans extreme Islamic religion as a form of inciting violence. Then we'll follow suit and everyone will be happy.
@Pope John Peeps II: But biting the hand that feeds (or shelters)? Good luck with that. Actually, it's worked very well in the UK, for the biters, at any rate.
@Hydroceph: There was an article in Le Monde recently about Tariq Ramadan, who has now brought his travelling show to Rotterdam. Apparently he said some ungenerous things about homosexuals and women, all the while maintaining his suave exterior, of course.
@Pope John Peeps II: I can't believe you're calling my beliefs stupid when what you're advocating would result in a massive reduction of civil liberties for any country.
You know what's worse than this? When ignorant people pretend to know what they're talking about. At least she knows she's out of her depth and didn't bother trying to tackle any of the "issues".
Then again, maybe I'm giving her too much credit. She was probably too dazzled by shiny things to notice anything else going on.
@misslinda: But that would make one admidt to watching TLC in the first place. I swear the only good show left is "What not to wear", the rest of the shows are about people who reproduce in horrifying numbers.
@The Dewd: at least she wasn't Joe the Dumber saying, "There's so many questions to ask, I don't know where to start. But, uh, if I may, America rocks and commies suck and taxes suck..."
"I didn't know how to pronounce 'latrine'. I kept making it rhyme with 'la wine' which was wrong because the MP's kept yelling at me. Then I got so mad I threw a rock at a poster on the wall and it broke right through the paper and I looked at the hole in the middle of the poster and then I poked my little finger through then my arm then my other arm and by that time the poster had been all but ripped from the wall revealing a maw in the concrete wall preceding a long tunnel that had been dug right through. And then I crawled through 500 yards of the foulest-smelling shit ever and I Shawshanked in my Redemption! Then the tower guards shot me through the shoulder and la-dee-dah, here I am recovering in the infirmary next to the other dude who'd tried to escape previously. He says his name is 'The Other American Taliban' and I was like 'Is that like pork?' and he was like 'Naw, I don't eat that shit.' Oh look, they're serving ice cream! ICE CREAM IN THE INFIRMARY!!!"
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You know, when I see a woman walking around with a burqa, I see a Nazi. That's what I see -- how do you like that? -- a hateful Nazi who would like to cut your throat and kill your children. Don't give me this crap that they're doing it out of a sacred ritual or rite. It's not required by the Quran that a woman walk around in a seventh-century drape. She's doing it to spit in your face. She's saying, "You white moron, you, I'm going to kill you if I can." That's how I see it!
God abhors a spiritual vacuum. That is why he has permitted, in fact probably not only permitted, but in a way orchestrated the rise of radical Islam.
[...] It's becoming increasingly clear to me that God wants radical Islam on this planet at this time -- that it's not actually the scourge you think it is. What it is -- it's a counterpoint to the Romanization of the United States of America and the West. The collapse -- the spiritual collapse of the West, the death of the West in that regard, is being countered by the birth of fanatic religion, which is fundamentally a fanatic love of God, when you think about it.
[...] And God, who is the center of this monotheistic religion, has said, "Oh, you don't worship me anymore? Oh, you don't like me anymore? Oh, I don't exist anymore? Really? All right, I'm going to show you boys in Hollywood and you girls in New York City that I do exist. But since you're very hard-headed, stiff-necked people, and you don't really believe that I exist because you've gotten away with everything you've done all your life without any repercussions, I'm going to show you I exist in a way that you can't believe." Down came the World Trade Center towers. That was God speaking.
California, unfortunately, is in the hands of the far-left homosexual mafia. They unfortunately don't even understand what's good for them. They don't understand that voting on the left side of everything is actually in their disinterest, not in their interest -- that if they gay community ever understood what's in their interest they'd become conservatives, by and large. But they are also very confused, as anyone could figure out by their death-style."
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It's very dangerous when governments start telling people what to think.
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They call that "THE LAW". It's a thing governments do.
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Pretty much anyone who actually disagrees with Savage being barred from the country probably thinks the same as you.
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"What you're now saying is that the PRINCIPLE of the rule is correct, but what you really object to is that you're not fucking in charge of who's in and who's out."
Savage's views are atrocious. There are some people who probably feel the same way about MY views, however. What I care about is actually the exact opposite of what you're talking about; I don't want people to decide who's in and who's out. I want everybody in.
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I may not agree with Savage but he does have a right to say what he says. You may not like it but it's his opinion and he is protected by the constitution.
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The point is that you and I or whomever don't agree with his opinions, but if he will be stopped from speaking maybe it will be Keith Olbermann next. Its not about the ideas or opinions, its about the ability to speak.
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So it's true, you didn't assume that Britain wasn't sovereign, you just assumed that the whole government is corrupt.
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Dear America,
Most of our politicians are total tools, Jacqui Smith being the entire toolbox plus a few spare allen keys and a few of those random screws you keep finding in the doorway. Please see the link below.
Love lots, your former-oppressor-turned-underling,
England.
[www.google.co.uk]
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#1 on ban: Everybody from Long Island
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Then again, maybe I'm giving her too much credit. She was probably too dazzled by shiny things to notice anything else going on.
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I swear the only good show left is "What not to wear", the rest of the shows are about people who reproduce in horrifying numbers.
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oh. wait. not tinsley. where is tinsley? oh, wait...
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