@laurenhasmoney: Thanks I just read your link. Here's what sticks out:
"He wanted the church to have an active political stance and the church is prohibited from doing so." Davis said that taking an active political stance would have jeopardized the church’s tax exempt status.
What a load of total bullshit. If Pastor Rick Warren can come out in public support of Prop 8, then Tommy Davis can come out in public opposition of Prop 8. It has nothing to do with losing your tax exempt status (but thanks for the reminder on where your values are, $cientology) - it has EVERYTHING to do with what you stand for. And $cientology is known for lumping homosexuality with deviant behaviors, and therefore somethign the cult is against. #scientology
None of this would bother me in the least if they weren't enjoying a subsidy from the government in the form of a tax exemption. In fact, I think it's high time for the US to consider revoking all tax exemptions for religions. These fairy-story peddlers are all businesses, and should enjoy no more tax exemption than any other marketers. Let them lie to themselves--who fucking cares? Just pay your fucking taxes.
@Mediahohoho: There's also the little issue of them conning people into paying thousands of dollars for services which are claimed to be able to help them under the guise of quasi-scientific nonsense. There's also the disconnection policy - whereby people who leave the cult are not allowed to speak to their families who remain in the church. There's also the little issue of waging a smear campaign against psychiatry. I guess there's also the physical violence and intimidation as well.
Sure, do all that amongst yourselves - but when it impacts other people outside your cult, be prepared to answer for it. #scientology
@PontiusPirate: Yeah, I get it. I think Cults are horrible. These guys, the moonies, those "the family" assholes on C-street and in the US Senate--they're all the same stripe of fraudulent jerkoff. I agree that their habits of criminal wrongdoing should be pursued relentlessly. But my sympathy for their victims is tempered by the fact that everyone is free to follow their conscience and be a dupe and rube. The people I feel sorriest for are the minors who are dragged into the scams through no fault or vulnerabilities of their own. #scientology
@Mediahohoho: Yeah, like Jett Travolta. In Scientology circles, it's simply not acceptable to take anti-seizure medicine, let alone medicine for schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder, etc. All because L. Ron got a little miffed at the APA years ago when they came out and said Dianetics was horseshit masquerading as legitimate psychological science. #scientology
@Mediahohoho: I've been thinking the same thing about revoking the tax free status of churches for years. Christian churches have basically turned into PACs for Republicans. I'm sick of big religion sticking their hands out and getting a free ride. I think we should just give them fishing rods and teach them to fish, rather than just giving them free fish all the time. Lazy churches. #scientology
1) His close personal desire to have Tom Cruise's haircut from most of his films from 1983 to 1994.
2) The instant retreat at the mere mention of Xenu. Because, what may I ask, is a crazed cult with mystical numbers and levels, leaders with learning disabilities who wear large medallions of power and/or sacrifice, if it doesn't pray to an otherworldly place named similarly for a phrase coined by Robin Williams most likely on a coke bender?
And he's also probably gay. 'I have enough money to never work a day in my life,' he says." How is this possible? Even if his Dad is loaded b/c Anne never pulled down that kind of money, I thought the Scientologists like to almost bleed people dry, leaving them with just enough energy and will to continue working to make more money to spend on auditing and other bullshit Scientology services? As just the spokesman, I doubt he gets paid enough to live such a lavish lifestyle.
@BadUncle: It's been done, and it works! There was a Defamer story long ago where a tipster did just that, and she covered her young friend's ears and shrieked bloody murder on the Silverlake street. If I recall correctly, she then unfurled her leathery wings and flew away to her storm-topped castle. #scientology
@Sleepyhead: I think I recall that. Didn't she scream that the guy was a "baby-raper" or something vile? They really seem to go right to viciousness very quickly. Ugh. #scientology
was the coolest guy ever. I never met him, so perhaps he was, but from a literary standpoint, he was a hack, and not a good one. He's also deceased.
Ron D. Moore wrote of not one, but several religions more sensible and convincing than scientology: the two competing faiths in Battlestar, and the Klingons' religion.
@bmoreDLJ: He's not just the coolest guy ever! They also think he was a decorated war hero. And a physicist, or something. Certainly a college grad. A bestselling author for the ages. Basically, a bunch of hooey that can be disproven with records, but of course anything like that is ignored by Scientologists.
In reality, Hubbard was holed up with a Satanist and dabbling in bigamy. He also has a file of psychological issues, and the time he spent in the navy saw no action and from what I've read, involved him trying to take over a ship in some weird way and getting disciplined for being a total nutter. #scientology
It's like in Harry Potter, where they're all afraid to say Voldemort! Oh wait, except Harry Potter is a childrens book, and the kids even get what that's about. #scientology
Eeentesting post! The grease is dripping through my computer screen. *shudders* My only quibble is with "Hubbard Believed..."
I truly don't think Hubbard believed any of this - it was science fiction to him, science fiction successfully packaged as religion for those who wanted a belief system they could buy themselves into.
@NoelleBlue: Noelle, if you want to read a very, very interesting book, try to get your hands on "Bare-Faced Messiah," a biography of L. Ron. It's hard to find a hard copy, but if you use the Goog, you can find a full copy to read online. Anyhow, it's a bit more complicated than just belief and nonbelief, as is generally the case with people who go totes schizo. Once you finish that, you can read "No Man Knows My History," a bio of Joseph Smith, which also rules. Now go! @NoelleBlue #scientology
He might email you to shriek that he was RPF'd "VOLUNTARILY!!" - apparently, being told it's either the RPF or be declared a non-member is voluntary, according to the official spokescreature.
Davis says he has enough money to never work a day in his life, but one suspects that Ma Archer would cut him off if he left the church publicly.
Touchingly, Beghe says Davis spent weeks sitting at his hospital bedside when Beghe was in a near-fatal car accident a few years ago. The recent, more high-profile "ex's" probably still have a fair bit of affection for Tommy-boy.
Ironically, Beghe (the hapless highway cop from "Thelma and Louise", among other roles) has been recently cast in the film Haggis is currently making with Russell Crowe in Pittsburgh. #scientology
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It gives a clear picture beyond the gossip and rumors. Real news. #scientology
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"He wanted the church to have an active political stance and the church is prohibited from doing so." Davis said that taking an active political stance would have jeopardized the church’s tax exempt status.
What a load of total bullshit. If Pastor Rick Warren can come out in public support of Prop 8, then Tommy Davis can come out in public opposition of Prop 8. It has nothing to do with losing your tax exempt status (but thanks for the reminder on where your values are, $cientology) - it has EVERYTHING to do with what you stand for. And $cientology is known for lumping homosexuality with deviant behaviors, and therefore somethign the cult is against. #scientology
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Sure, do all that amongst yourselves - but when it impacts other people outside your cult, be prepared to answer for it. #scientology
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Two things concern me:
1) His close personal desire to have Tom Cruise's haircut from most of his films from 1983 to 1994.
2) The instant retreat at the mere mention of Xenu. Because, what may I ask, is a crazed cult with mystical numbers and levels, leaders with learning disabilities who wear large medallions of power and/or sacrifice, if it doesn't pray to an otherworldly place named similarly for a phrase coined by Robin Williams most likely on a coke bender?
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[defamer.gawker.com] #scientology
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was the coolest guy ever. I never met him, so perhaps he was, but from a literary standpoint, he was a hack, and not a good one. He's also deceased.
Ron D. Moore wrote of not one, but several religions more sensible and convincing than scientology: the two competing faiths in Battlestar, and the Klingons' religion.
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In reality, Hubbard was holed up with a Satanist and dabbling in bigamy. He also has a file of psychological issues, and the time he spent in the navy saw no action and from what I've read, involved him trying to take over a ship in some weird way and getting disciplined for being a total nutter. #scientology
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[www.xenutv.com] #scientology
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No matter what you say nobody is going to believe you anyway so you could just make shit up.
The only job requirement would be keeping a straight face. #scientology
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I truly don't think Hubbard believed any of this - it was science fiction to him, science fiction successfully packaged as religion for those who wanted a belief system they could buy themselves into.
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Davis says he has enough money to never work a day in his life, but one suspects that Ma Archer would cut him off if he left the church publicly.
Touchingly, Beghe says Davis spent weeks sitting at his hospital bedside when Beghe was in a near-fatal car accident a few years ago. The recent, more high-profile "ex's" probably still have a fair bit of affection for Tommy-boy.
Ironically, Beghe (the hapless highway cop from "Thelma and Louise", among other roles) has been recently cast in the film Haggis is currently making with Russell Crowe in Pittsburgh. #scientology
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Is that Scientolospeak for "jerk off buddy"?
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