This is important, you should follow up on this with someone who knows the score, like that guy Keifer Sutherland's dad played the part of in Oliver Stone's JFK movie. Then when you write the report just sign someone else's name to the story because you don't want to wake up with a horse's head in your bed. Ha ha! Just Kidding! Not really. Let this one lie, John, enjoy your life.
Remember FOIA is only for the paperwork that Federal agencies are trying to hide from you (just kidding, Feds!); access to state and local records vary by state.
I've never been lucky in life and often contemplated taking my life in some absolutely fabulous way like jumping off the Empire State Building or leaping in front of the Lexington Avenue Subway but I've always held back because there are so many hundreds of people whose lives revolve around mine....my friends and admirers....if I were to commit suicide it would be like I'm taking their lives too.
@SuzieQ I Love You: But darling, think of the funeral! Frank Campbell for viewing, Jennifer Hudson singing "If they could see me now", be sure to choose the flowers too, no cheesy carnations or chrysanthemums.
Was he involved with criminal activity? Who knows but damn people, the suicides "from the recession" are so sad. There's no reason to kill yourself and destroy your family to avoid jail or investigation. Hell, everyone gets out eventually.
My hiring partner at my first firm was a super nice guy, jovial, always very personable. One day..dead. Killed himself. Left wife and son behind. I'm still mad at him for that. He was so unselfish until he did the most selfish thing of all.
@bboston88 (star please?): While I understand being upset, I don't understand why people consider suicide to be so "selfish". When someone dies of cancer, normally people don't get mad at the victims. Autopsies of suicides so some pretty major brain changes. However, I think there is a difference between a suicide from chronic depression, and a rash suicide to avoid jail/embarrassment, etc.
I wonder if a more senior executive paid a hit man to knock this guy off and then make it look like a suicide.
A friend of mine was found dead in his office, it looked like a suicide, but they later found out his business partner paid someone to do it. It happens!
One of my friends from college had a son who had a lot of emotional problems who went missing for months and there was a massive search all over the Richmond, Virginia area....we all eventually concluded he had been kidnapped and taken to some other city. But then they found his body with a noose around his neck just a few hundred yards from his parent's home the following spring. The police initially ruled it a suicide but his parents pushed them to reopen the case cause they think someone kidnapped him, held him over an extended period and then killed him (making his death look like a suicide). The police are always looking to wrap up cases in the most expedient manner. I hope that doesn't happen here. (Was there a suicide note?)
Really? A highly employable, wealthy young man with a family is so stressed by his job that he kills himself and effectively destroys said family instead of... resigning and trying to get another job?
Mmmmm.
A guy who recently hired private security to protect him and his family has a death wish and kills himself right where his family will logically be the first to find him instead of, say, jumping off a bridge somewhere? So... he wants to protect his family, and himself, yet destroy them at the same time.
@Pope John Peeps II: They don't all want to be found. The Doe Network is full of long-dead bodies discovered in remote fields, skeletons with bullet holes in the heads and mummified remains still hanging from nooses in trees. Some people do these things in the most isolated places possible, and without ID, just because they don't want to be found or given a name.
@Cheap Shot: Yeah, I always put them off because the idea of being gone and what could go wrong before or during is burdening.
I have one coming up after next week that's bugging me out, but I know I'll feel better once I'm there, and then you realize it's all not worth the stress, life goes on without you there.
@Cheap Shot: 'take a vacation' is corporate-speak for 'you're f**ked.' Nobody ever says, aw you're working too hard, here's a pillow. More like, the prosecutors need time to sort thru your files
@CarnegieHill: All of this crap about grammar in a posting about suicide reminds me of the time I went to my parents, as a teenager, to tell them I was contemplating suicide. My parents are the self-appointed Grammar, Syntax, Pronunciation, Punctuation and Spelling Police of the Universe, so their biggest concern was all of the above, instead of the fact that I was ready to swallow a bottle of pills. Who gives a shit if it's hung or hanged?! The man is dead, fuck grammar! Annoying. Get over it! That is all.
@Bklynexpat: Though I understand what it is like to be raised by clueless humans claiming to be your parents, this is the second time Gawker has used "hung" instead of "hanged." (First was DFW, he should rest in peace.)
So, being as there are a lot of writers around the office, and many of the people reading this, like, you know, also write and edit stuff for a living, they should probably use the correct term.
@PandoraSpocks: According to Random House, via dictionary.com: "Hang has two forms for the past tense and past participle, hanged and hung. The historically older form hanged is now used exclusively in the sense of causing or putting to death: He was sentenced to be hanged by the neck until dead. In the sense of legal execution, hung is also quite common and is standard in all types of speech and writing except in legal documents. When legal execution is not meant, hung has become the more frequent form: The prisoner hung himself in his cell."
@Bklynexpat: Well, damn. This morning the Gray Lady says he hanged himself and the WashPo simply avoided the whole issue by saying he was found dead at home.
People don't commit suicide over job stress. Think about it - which is the easier way out? Hanging yourself or just sitting on the couch and not going to work anymore?
Quitting is always easier.
There had to be something more going on. His job may be a part of it, but you don't commit suicide unless you are deeply depressed and feel there's no way out. With job stress, there is always a way out: quit.
And yes, I know what it's like to feel trapped at a job. I still know I can quit at any time if I have to.
because every time a major corporate figure or politician who figures into a epochally society altering situation that's being investigated and may have plenty to reveal reportedly commits suicide, there would be absolutely no reason to question why there might be motivation by some implicated person of interest to silence this individual, and why the hierarchical power structure might collude to make sure it looks that way. and besides, the media tells us it's so! even belovedly irreverent blogs like Gawker! generally love your posts, Mr. Nolan, and their thoughtfully evenhanded, yet wryly righteous tone. but not even raising the possibility that there might be something to instigate, delve into, tangle over feels like complacent acquiescence to the received wisdom of the day. back to regularly scheduled programming! god forbid we at least dispute accepted paradigms!
@Kari's Favorite Mark: perhaps true conceptually, but the context seems a bit of a departure from what I would imagine to be the usual (at least according to the stereotype, the inevitably complacent employment of which I generally eschew) contretemps.
If bankers had done as much due diligence on these bad home loans as those reporters had done chasing down the story, perhaps - perhaps - Mr. Kellerman would be alive today.
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Dead people make the best scapegoats.
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Remember FOIA is only for the paperwork that Federal agencies are trying to hide from you (just kidding, Feds!); access to state and local records vary by state.
05/13/09
However, not with M. John Cook!
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But then again, I believe in a strong, almost repugnant, press - regardless of party.
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Looks like you send a letter...
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After all the sad news about journalism-is-dead this week, I feel nothing but hope.
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A set and a brain!
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My hiring partner at my first firm was a super nice guy, jovial, always very personable. One day..dead. Killed himself. Left wife and son behind. I'm still mad at him for that. He was so unselfish until he did the most selfish thing of all.
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A friend of mine was found dead in his office, it looked like a suicide, but they later found out his business partner paid someone to do it. It happens!
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One of my friends from college had a son who had a lot of emotional problems who went missing for months and there was a massive search all over the Richmond, Virginia area....we all eventually concluded he had been kidnapped and taken to some other city. But then they found his body with a noose around his neck just a few hundred yards from his parent's home the following spring. The police initially ruled it a suicide but his parents pushed them to reopen the case cause they think someone kidnapped him, held him over an extended period and then killed him (making his death look like a suicide). The police are always looking to wrap up cases in the most expedient manner. I hope that doesn't happen here. (Was there a suicide note?)
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thats VERY interesting! I always wondered about that.
I wonder if Sylvia Plath or Anne Sexton left suicide notes. I'll have to look that up!
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Mmmmm.
A guy who recently hired private security to protect him and his family has a death wish and kills himself right where his family will logically be the first to find him instead of, say, jumping off a bridge somewhere? So... he wants to protect his family, and himself, yet destroy them at the same time.
Yeah, no.
Not buying it.
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I have one coming up after next week that's bugging me out, but I know I'll feel better once I'm there, and then you realize it's all not worth the stress, life goes on without you there.
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He hanged himself.
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That is all.
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So, being as there are a lot of writers around the office, and many of the people reading this, like, you know, also write and edit stuff for a living, they should probably use the correct term.
04/22/09
"Hang has two forms for the past tense and past participle, hanged and hung. The historically older form hanged is now used exclusively in the sense of causing or putting to death: He was sentenced to be hanged by the neck until dead. In the sense of legal execution, hung is also quite common and is standard in all types of speech and writing except in legal documents. When legal execution is not meant, hung has become the more frequent form: The prisoner hung himself in his cell."
04/23/09
I take note but do not yet stand corrected!
04/22/09
Quitting is always easier.
There had to be something more going on. His job may be a part of it, but you don't commit suicide unless you are deeply depressed and feel there's no way out. With job stress, there is always a way out: quit.
And yes, I know what it's like to feel trapped at a job. I still know I can quit at any time if I have to.
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