Oh dear - does this mean my Tex-ass relatives who are against gay marriage but already both in their 2nd marriage are now divorced for a second time. But what of the sanctity of (multiple hetero) marriages!
Actually, subsection B has the answer to the whole freaking controversy. No state, and no political subdivision of any state, should be regulating marriage. It's a cultural and religious institution or it's a political and legal one. Can't be both.
@Colander: ...or it's a strictly legal institution, and in that case subject to the equal protection clause of the Constitution (for those who care about that). As usual, this whole fucking issue hinges on semantics.
If her reasoning is correct (big if), let's see all of those conservative "originalists" come up with all sorts of creative reasons as to why the law doesn't mean what it says.
@onebadclam: Texas has solidly liberal, fun-loving Austin and sophisticated arts scenes in San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas. It has only fairly recently become a Republican stronghold. Alabama has... um... err....
@Kakapo: That is very true. Unfortunately, the liberal fun-loving artists aren't in the legislature. The capital building is stuffed to the gills with potential Tom DeLays and Dick Armeys.
Is Alabama really less embarrassing than Texas? Tough call. If Rick Perry gets his wish for Texas secession then our elder statesmen will be Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent. Alabama won't look so bad then, will it?
@Poop Cooper: Or throwing the supposedly sacred baby out with the gay-marriage bathwater.
And as a Texas who voted against this dumb amendment in the first place, and also knows quite a few miserably married straight couples, I would love for this to be true.
As a good Catholic conservative, even I see no reason to outlaw gay marriage. Don't understand how it threatens "the family," "values" and other wishy-washy terms that have no real meaning.
Marriage is a social construct that stabilizes families and helps keep people out of poverty (think of all the single parents, mostly moms, that are in the poverty range. 1 in 3 single moms are living in poverty [womensphere.wordpress.com] )
I just cannot for the life of me figure out what the fuss is all about. #gaymarriage
@momof3wildkids: That's probably because you don't harbor an irrational fear that gay people are going to try to "convert" your kids. Or show them diagrams of "gay sex" during health class (I wish I was kidding, but NOM actually mentioned kids asking about "gay sex" in one of their ads).
Count me as another married heterosexual who is positive that gays getting married will have absolutely no affect on the sanctity of my marriage. #gaymarriage
What, you've just woken up to the fact that the political system in this country has been hijacked by two parties? The rest of the democratic world (and their Gay Marriage Party representatives) have been laughing at us for decades. So, shut up and vote for those who are just a little bit to the left of the Republicans, because that's all you will ever get. And don't ever expect them to ever give you anything, because they know you have NO ONE ELSE TO VOTE FOR! #gaymarriage
I have no doubt we will one day look back on these years and criticize the Democratic Party for bowing to the majority rather than standing up for civil rights. #gaymarriage
Can we please start the public referendums on giving tax breaks to right wing religious organizations? Hell, it's America, where we put people's rights up for a majority vote! Right? #gaymarriage
@manchops: The great (or terrible, in my view terrible) thing about America is you can put almost anything up for a referendum. Just get a bunch of people with nothing to do to go get a bunch of people with slightly less to do to sign a petition urging them to ban bananas from bodegas. Or whatever your pet issue is. If you need help, call people from California, no one does referendums like they do. #gaymarriage
@ModestProposal: Shit- do you think I should start paying attention when I sign all those petitions shoved in front of me on the way to the subway? I pretty much sign anything if those people will just let me get to work on time.... #gaymarriage
@manchops: I'd settle for forcing straight people to stay married to each other. In the 1970's and 1980's the republicans blamed working women and divorce for America's problems (and the "welfare queens"). The reason you don't hear from Anita Bryant anymore is because after she divorced her abusive husband (and she had such a beatific smile!!!), her "friends" in the right wingnut sphere dumped her ass. I've noticed the wingnuts don't seem to care too much about divorce anymore, since all of their leaders usually have several divorces under their belts. Let's force them to stay married AND force them to personally support teenage mothers and their unwanted babies. I'd give up the right to marry just to watch Rush Limbaugh suffer for eternity being married to some woman who hated his guts, and having to support multiple teenage mothers, preferably minority teenagers. #gaymarriage
@erinna: The only petition I've ever signed was back in college and it was to get 2-ply toilet paper in the dorm bathrooms. That was a position I could get behind. #gaymarriage
As a resident of Washington State, I voted to approve the "everything-but-marriage" act, reasoning that "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" trumps the "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" philosophy.
And then I put on Cruel Intentions and watched Sarah Michelle Gellar kiss Selma Blair one more time. #gaymarriage
It would be interesting to see what kind of long-standing psychological effects there can be from basically being insulted every day/being made to feel like there is something wrong with you. I'm sure people go through it in some way, on some scale, in their own lives, but having people vote on if they think you should be allowed to do the stuff they can do?
The new Jersey Gov has dropped the "marriage is between a man and a woman" line; the separate but equal laws; Obama struggling with what Jeezus says and what his brain is telling him...I'm pretty sure we are all internalizing this stuff, and I imagine it is bad for us (even if it's just that we'll die with unacknowledged insecurities). Chin up and all, but seriously, it would be nice if it stopped. #gaymarriage
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Is Alabama really less embarrassing than Texas? Tough call. If Rick Perry gets his wish for Texas secession then our elder statesmen will be Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent. Alabama won't look so bad then, will it?
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And as a Texas who voted against this dumb amendment in the first place, and also knows quite a few miserably married straight couples, I would love for this to be true.
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Well, they've only been around for your entire lives, so maybe you should try to, I dunno, figure it out. #gaymarriage
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As a good Catholic conservative, even I see no reason to outlaw gay marriage. Don't understand how it threatens "the family," "values" and other wishy-washy terms that have no real meaning.
Marriage is a social construct that stabilizes families and helps keep people out of poverty (think of all the single parents, mostly moms, that are in the poverty range. 1 in 3 single moms are living in poverty [womensphere.wordpress.com] )
I just cannot for the life of me figure out what the fuss is all about. #gaymarriage
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Count me as another married heterosexual who is positive that gays getting married will have absolutely no affect on the sanctity of my marriage. #gaymarriage
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I. Just.Do.Not.Get.It. #gaymarriage
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And then I put on Cruel Intentions and watched Sarah Michelle Gellar kiss Selma Blair one more time. #gaymarriage
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The new Jersey Gov has dropped the "marriage is between a man and a woman" line; the separate but equal laws; Obama struggling with what Jeezus says and what his brain is telling him...I'm pretty sure we are all internalizing this stuff, and I imagine it is bad for us (even if it's just that we'll die with unacknowledged insecurities). Chin up and all, but seriously, it would be nice if it stopped. #gaymarriage
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