Wait, so because corporations have been running rampant for decades, it's Obama's fault? It's truly amazing how low both sides go on these supposed news shows. The public is so damned lazy and stupid that they take this drivel as gospel rather than take a couple minutes to check the veracity of the statements.
"It is time for the federal government to start policing corrupt corporations, not rewarding them."
Where was this over the last 8 years, 16 years, 20 years? The sins of GE polluting are clearly Obama's fault, since he's been in power for 30 years.
The government has, over the years, removed all funding to the Superfund Cleanup Budget. In addition, the "loopholes" in the Superfund legislation make it cheaper for a company to just pay the fine rather than clean up. So let's put the blame where it belongs, ALL government.
Why is Obama expected to implement every single thing he campaigned on w/in the first 6 months of his presidency? He's got 600 some idiots in Congress he has to deal with to make these changes, you know.
@The Walking Eye: He' counting on his audience not being able to retain information they were introduced to more than five minutes ago.
I very much doubt, MSNBC's parent aside, Mr. O'Reilly has any specific criticism for the corporations that have ruined our democracy, even though Enron is responsible for the 2008 gas gouging, for instance, and Halliburton, well, they fucked us up but good with their Iraq war.
At the end of the day, O'Reilly's just another rich fuck running his mouth.
I, for one, welcome our new corporate overlords and extend a heartfelt thankyou for having contributed to the production of about everything I will come in contact with during the course of my day, including my elected officials.
One of my hobbies is rating TV personalities on a "punchability" scale. The categories are "Face," "Voice" and "Misc." I rate each category on a scale of 1 to 5. The higher the score, the more psychic enjoyment I get from imagining me punching them in the face. Dick Morris scores a 15. No one else has broken 10. He's the 1927 Yankees of douche.
My information is a bit dated, but in 2006, General Electric Corporation donated $562,011 to Democrats and $1,013,039 to Republicans. My source is a book called The Blue Pages. I haven't been able to independently verify the numbers, but my point is that big corporations often support members of both political parties. Barack Obama enjoyed tremendous political support during the election and continues to. I'm sure that there are a few corporate bastards tucked away in there who also gained from his election. I just don't see this as sinister.
@ChillbearLatrigue: Jeffrey Immelt, GE's Chairman and CEO, admitted on Charlie Rose just months ago that he voted for McCain, and still would have preferred him to win the election.
MSNBC has simply drifted further left because it was a good business decision. The network saw an opportunity to establish themselves as the left-wing equivalent of Fox News, and has been profiting using Fox's own business model. O'Reilly should feel flattered, and stop trying to blindly attack a company that is so iconic of American capitalism, and such a strong republican supporter.
@DeltaGuy: I agree. Odds are that most of the GE executives are Republicans. I'm not basing that on anything but stereotyping, but it seems like they would fit the demographic. My biggest problem with this is that O'Reilly's chain of events seem a bit thin. Dick Morris kind of tried to temper the argument a bit, but I don't think that this was worth air time.
@Iwillnotaudition...: That was damned funny.
@DeltaGuy: Whenever I see a segment on MSNBC critical of defense spending or the Iraq/Afghan war, I assume GE has an alternative system/service they would like to sell. I'm glad J.Scahill was on to talk about Blackwater/Xe this week, but I couldn't help wondering if GE has its own mercenary force.
Basically, if you watch the video all the way through, it appears that Morris and O'Reilly are advocating public financing of campaigns and that everyone with a job and every business owner should either be banned from making political contributions, or that government shouldn't let any contracts.
The great winner in this report is of course Pox Noise, which is able to claim some semblance of equality for their brand of baseless slander and lies. BillO the Clown is thus for the one and only moment of his career the equal of Olbermann, who only measures the vast gap between proclamations from the Pox Pimps and reality.
I don't know about this being a "Friday Night Dump," Ryan. The story reads to me more like the result of some good digging by Stelter, with multiple sources for key claims (how refreshing!) Or are you saying The Times dumped it into the Saturday paper to spare Fox and MSNBC (and their corporate daddys) the embarrassment?
In any case, it'll be interesting to see if it gets any traction on the Sunday talkfests, and of course how Olbermann and Bill-O react Monday.
Cable "news" really is only good for entertainment purposes anymore. If you want to be informed you need a print source. Even if you've just watched a cable "news" spot, you need to go find a trusted print or web site to tell you OK, that part of it was just bullshit hype by wolff blitzer to get you through the commercial (you won't believe ....... , wait till you see ........) (seriously, get some decent writers) and here's what you really need to know and what it means
It seems some days as if the so-called liberal MSNBC gives more airtime to Limbaugh and Beck et al than they get over at their own shows. If it werent for Keith and Rachel I wouldn't even know what kind of garbage those wingnuts were spewing.
@afraidofauntieem: Agreed. I'm beginning to wonder if the whole "what will the Republicans do next," since it's procedurally a dead issue is as much a non-story as, "where was our pres really born." Quite frankly, nothing the Republicans have done since January has been a surprise or even news. It's just the blather of the disempowered. So stop covering it; there's still plenty of real news going on all over the world. Until Michael Jackson dies again, that is.
@afraidofauntieem: Olbermann and Maddow shows both offer some fine lefty analysis (and occasionally break news), but they do have an hour to fill every night. So given the size of Rush's audience (hard to pin down but apparently in the millions) and his ability to intimidate Congressmen into apologizing for challenging him (thanks MSNBC for that info) I don't mind if they keep tabs on him.
@afraidofauntieem: In my region, I can click to Cash Cab when the blowhards are on Countdown or Rachel. And they do go on, because they are what Vonnegut recognized as the wrang-wrang*. In these times, a straw man is set up for us, and by the enemy himself. But I agree; I certainly don't want to spend my two hours of teevee a night or less watching bombastic buffoons.
* A person who steers people away from a line of speculation by reducing that line, with the example of the wrang-wrang's own life, to an absurdity.
separating truth from lies is supposed to be the first task of journalism
speaking of truth and lies, there is an entire industry, spawned by the people who told you that cigarettes don't cause cancer, to deny climate change -- in other words, there is a powerful group of paid liars working to spread misinformation
The broadcast PR firm Medialink Worldwide put out a video news release (VNR) titled, "Global Warming and Hurricanes: All Hot Air?" Apparently, the segment was aired over WTOK in Mississippi. The firm identified "TCS Daily Science Roundtable" as the client behind the segment. But Medialink didn't disclose that TCS Daily is a website published by Tech Central Station. As PR Watch-er John Stauber reports, ExxonMobil gave the Tech Central Science Foundation $95,000 in 2003, for "climate change support.
Tech Central Station is a climate change denial organ, owned and operated by DCI Group, a Washintgon PR/lobby company. You may remember DCI was recently ousted by the Wall Street Journal as the producers of an Al Gore spoof video posted on YouTube under the guise of an young amatuer video producer. Oh, and would it surprise you if I told you that the current CEO of the DCI Group, Doug Goodyear , was also heavily involved as a PR consultant in RJ Reynold's efforts to manufacture a grassroots campaign against tougher tobacco laws.
If anyone is wondering what a Video News Release is, here is the VNR and here is what it looks like when media pick it up and use it.
@if_i_only_had_a_heart: Expect to see more and more VNRs aired with virtually no editorial judgement or simple fact checking. As budgets get slashed and employees dumped, media outlets will turn to VNRs to fill in the blanks. The sad result is that competent journalists who've been kicked from credible news organizations will probably start churning out VNR garbage to pay the rent.
I'm not actually sure I need anyone to report on what specific bullshit the whiners at Fox News are spewing. I can usually imagine the worst and add 10% to the most paranoid, covertly racist, hate-filled fiction their fevered imaginations concoct and that's usually right on. I always though Olbermann cheapened his own show by treating Bill O'Reilly like he mattered to anyone under 70.
Still, this is depressing and not that surprising. The media is overwhelmingly conservative in this country.
@Mediahohoho: Yeah- I am pretty sick of the liberal media myth. I suppose they are liberal in the sense that they believe in the basics of equal rights etc...
The other day I saw radical right wing Michelle Malken on NBC and wondered when in the world they would ever interview an radical liberal about their book?
Never gonna happen.
@lil red: I can't think of anyone as unhinged, radical or just plain mean on the left as Malkin, Coulter, Ingraham, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Dobbs...and yet these loonies all get all the time they need to sell their books and promote their factually challenged propaganda.
@Iwillnotauditionforastar: That's a fair comment, but I can't get past the fact that there is a lot more tolerance on both network and cable news for the extreme batshittedness on the right and absolutely no corollary representation for anything left of what would be, in any other country, the exact middle.
Personally, I'm waiting for Roger Ailes's heart to explode simultaneously with Bill O'Reilly's head and Ann Coulter's balls.
@Mediahohoho: I'm just focusing on "anchors" as opposed to "contributors." They did use to mix and match more back when CNN was on top. Tony Snow & Chris Matthews on the same channel.
Then again, there's gadzillions of non-news channels that are prying away the news audience too, so specialization was and is inevitable.
@GregorMendel: I was going to say something about Glenn Beck's ass exploding but a) realized that was covered in the comment about O'Reilly's head and b) it already happened. Plus, c) gross!
@Mediahohoho: Also, I just feel it's appropriate to say that I don't know why my old avatar is coming back. I'd rather it weren't given a comment I got last week.
@Iwillnotauditionforastar: If you were to measure Fox News anchors rightwing religiosity in contrast to the general network news anchors Liberalleanings- the extremes at Fox would sink all other networks in one fell swoop with the sheer magnitude of partisan bs.
In the real world, these networks aren't really that liberal - they are only liberal in contrast to the extremes of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin's histrionics.
These clowns have somehow managed to convince the world that anyone besides them is somehow "liberal"- when, in fact, the networks are more centrist leaning towards conservative.
The Fox crazies are extreme fundamentalists that should start their own cult because nothing they say is fact based--it's all a matter of convincing their audience to "believe." ack!
Before Fox came along, news outlets were far more hard hitting with investigations. IMO, Fox's influence generally tamed the overall landscape of journalism.
@Mediahohoho: exactly. and the loony violent demagouges on the right have their own talk shows on network/cable tv and radio: malkin, o'reilly, beck, limbaugh. there are no left counterparts that get that kind of play from the powers that be
@Mediahohoho: Yes, we should not be surprised that corporations who own the media are in favor of corporations. Liberal media indeed.
In the best of all possible worlds, we would be able to learn all about the NYTimes report of the Pentagon Pimps, the sockpuppet brass who intoned on the battles while on the payroll of the war machine. Now, why did not I see reports of that very significant story on teevee? Well, maybe because I only watch MSNBC, which is owned by one of the offending networks in the paid Pentagon pundit ploy.
Talking is what every idiot understands. If it's nasty slander, so much the more comprehensible. I would love to see an honest survey comparing the cable teevee audiences for reading comprehension. Text involves thinking, which is beyond the louts who listen to Limbo.
It isn't an accident that all the mentally deficient and deranged accrue to the Pox Noise side of the question. We are fortunate in that Limbo and Cheney have only about a 19% approval rating in general, but they really soar with the knuckle-draggers down south.
@Mediahohoho: Six hundred thousand dead warriors and, by one account, one point four million civilians lost so we could have NASCAR and the Grand Ole Oprah and Dohbya and now the Birthers. It was like somebody fighting to retain his busted appendix.
08/06/09
"It is time for the federal government to start policing corrupt corporations, not rewarding them."
Where was this over the last 8 years, 16 years, 20 years? The sins of GE polluting are clearly Obama's fault, since he's been in power for 30 years.
The government has, over the years, removed all funding to the Superfund Cleanup Budget. In addition, the "loopholes" in the Superfund legislation make it cheaper for a company to just pay the fine rather than clean up. So let's put the blame where it belongs, ALL government.
Why is Obama expected to implement every single thing he campaigned on w/in the first 6 months of his presidency? He's got 600 some idiots in Congress he has to deal with to make these changes, you know.
08/06/09
I very much doubt, MSNBC's parent aside, Mr. O'Reilly has any specific criticism for the corporations that have ruined our democracy, even though Enron is responsible for the 2008 gas gouging, for instance, and Halliburton, well, they fucked us up but good with their Iraq war.
At the end of the day, O'Reilly's just another rich fuck running his mouth.
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I can do this all day.
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"Advertising of The Future To Enslave The White Man"
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MSNBC has simply drifted further left because it was a good business decision. The network saw an opportunity to establish themselves as the left-wing equivalent of Fox News, and has been profiting using Fox's own business model. O'Reilly should feel flattered, and stop trying to blindly attack a company that is so iconic of American capitalism, and such a strong republican supporter.
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@Iwillnotaudition...: That was damned funny.
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Stinking Hippies!
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Don't these guys work one block from each other in NYC? Their buildings are connected underground. I guess they didn't want to be seen together there.
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In any case, it'll be interesting to see if it gets any traction on the Sunday talkfests, and of course how Olbermann and Bill-O react Monday.
08/01/09
newspapers FTW!
08/01/09
Jesus fucking Christ. Does that part of the article not enrage or deeply sadden anybody else? I can't be the only one.
07/31/09
Just tell me the news, dammit.
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* A person who steers people away from a line of speculation by reducing that line, with the example of the wrang-wrang's own life, to an absurdity.
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07/31/09
separating truth from lies is supposed to be the first task of journalism
speaking of truth and lies, there is an entire industry, spawned by the people who told you that cigarettes don't cause cancer, to deny climate change -- in other words, there is a powerful group of paid liars working to spread misinformation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial
http://www.one-blue-marble.com/climate-change-denial-industry.html
The broadcast PR firm Medialink Worldwide put out a video news release (VNR) titled, "Global Warming and Hurricanes: All Hot Air?" Apparently, the segment was aired over WTOK in Mississippi. The firm identified "TCS Daily Science Roundtable" as the client behind the segment. But Medialink didn't disclose that TCS Daily is a website published by Tech Central Station. As PR Watch-er John Stauber reports, ExxonMobil gave the Tech Central Science Foundation $95,000 in 2003, for "climate change support.
http://www.desmogblog.com/former-tobacco-spin-doctor-plays-cruel-climate-change-hoax
Tech Central Station is a climate change denial organ, owned and operated by DCI Group, a Washintgon PR/lobby company. You may remember DCI was recently ousted by the Wall Street Journal as the producers of an Al Gore spoof video posted on YouTube under the guise of an young amatuer video producer. Oh, and would it surprise you if I told you that the current CEO of the DCI Group, Doug Goodyear , was also heavily involved as a PR consultant in RJ Reynold's efforts to manufacture a grassroots campaign against tougher tobacco laws.
If anyone is wondering what a Video News Release is, here is the VNR and here is what it looks like when media pick it up and use it.
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Still, this is depressing and not that surprising. The media is overwhelmingly conservative in this country.
07/31/09
The other day I saw radical right wing Michelle Malken on NBC and wondered when in the world they would ever interview an radical liberal about their book?
Never gonna happen.
07/31/09
Just wait, someone is going to say something and a new media feud will erupt.
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Personally, I'm waiting for Roger Ailes's heart to explode simultaneously with Bill O'Reilly's head and Ann Coulter's balls.
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Then again, there's gadzillions of non-news channels that are prying away the news audience too, so specialization was and is inevitable.
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In the real world, these networks aren't really that liberal - they are only liberal in contrast to the extremes of Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin's histrionics.
These clowns have somehow managed to convince the world that anyone besides them is somehow "liberal"- when, in fact, the networks are more centrist leaning towards conservative.
The Fox crazies are extreme fundamentalists that should start their own cult because nothing they say is fact based--it's all a matter of convincing their audience to "believe." ack!
Before Fox came along, news outlets were far more hard hitting with investigations. IMO, Fox's influence generally tamed the overall landscape of journalism.
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08/01/09
In the best of all possible worlds, we would be able to learn all about the NYTimes report of the Pentagon Pimps, the sockpuppet brass who intoned on the battles while on the payroll of the war machine. Now, why did not I see reports of that very significant story on teevee? Well, maybe because I only watch MSNBC, which is owned by one of the offending networks in the paid Pentagon pundit ploy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/us/20generals.html
08/01/09
Talking is what every idiot understands. If it's nasty slander, so much the more comprehensible. I would love to see an honest survey comparing the cable teevee audiences for reading comprehension. Text involves thinking, which is beyond the louts who listen to Limbo.
It isn't an accident that all the mentally deficient and deranged accrue to the Pox Noise side of the question. We are fortunate in that Limbo and Cheney have only about a 19% approval rating in general, but they really soar with the knuckle-draggers down south.
Summary: Abe Lincoln was bad wrong.
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