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    Image of svetlozar svetlozar
    11/07/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    It's great to be anonymous, isn't it? That's how real men take on a woman in an online discussion. You should be proud of yourselves!

    I challenge you to come out of anonymity and to reveal who you are and what exactly makes you an arbiter of artistic taste. Drue has a list of achievements that few artists her age can match, and people from Grammy winner Wynton Marsalis to the late 49ers coach Bill Walsh respect her talent [www.drue.net] . Drue has raised thousands through her art for many causes. What have you done?

    BTW, if any of you ever strikes it rich in the Valley-- highly unlikely, if you spend your work hours reading/commenting on ValleyWag-- don't invest your money in art. It really is not your forte & you'll go bankrupt.

    @Snugbug: Thanks Snugbug. While I strongly disagree with your assessment of Drue's art, you have balls.
    @"Michael Arrington": You are NOT Michael Arrington. Just received a response from the real Michael Arrington confirming you are an impersonator. It is outrageous that ValleyWag has allowed your fake comments to go on for so long: I can see comments from you dating from March 08, including "masterpieces" like:
    "What the hell, I expected a better picture with this post" (with regard to a child porn post)
    "I play the role of an 1800s steamboat captain in my illicit sex videos" (on a post about a Nazi-inspired sex video), etc.
    Get a life, jerk!

    Regards,
    Svetlozar #druekataoka
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    Image of Sunshineyness Sunshineyness
    11/07/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    My ultimate problem with 3D so far is that it's not new. It's, like mentioned, nearly 50 years old... and they are still doing the same dumb things with it. It's still just a novelty. When you watch a movie in 2D that was released in theaters as 3D you totally know it because stuff is needlessly chucked at the audience and what not.

    Until someone figures out how to do something un-gimmicky with it it will always be just that- a gimmick. #3d
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    Image of Communist Pope Communist Pope
    11/07/09

    @Sunshineyness: Agreed. Not only that, but you still have to wear stupid glasses to watch a 3D flick (or view one of those 3D monitors that are becoming quite popular amongst my techy friends). That alone will probably keep me from seeing Avatar in theaters, no matter how gorgeous some of the preview footage has looked.

    I'm sure that, someday, someone will come up with a way to project 3D on a screen without requiring the viewer to put on glasses. Until then, 3D's not for me. #3d
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    Image of MyNameIsChris MyNameIsChris
    11/07/09

    @Sunshineyness: You know, it's not exactly the same. It IS getting a bit different. Sure, most of the cheap-o shit is just stuff flying at the camera.

    The better computer animated films or mocap films have succeeded to varying degrees. Is it a game changer? Eh... probably not. But something like Beowulf (an awful awful movie) had a very lovely pop up book feeling to it where every thing in frame was at it's own depth. Sure, they had a couple swords pushed into the lens, but the highlight was really just the subtle depth in every single shot. I don't think it's enough to change the industry, but it can be a fun thing to see every once and awhile. If only it were coupled with a good movie. #3d
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    Image of badasscat badasscat
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    I recall that one of the reasons sensurround was removed from theaters was that it actually made movies a little too intense. I remember seeing "Rollercoaster" in sensurround when I was about 5 years old, and I had to actually run out of the theater during the first scene, it was so scary. The seats actually rumbled as the rollercoaster went around the track. And I don't mean a little bit. It really was like one of those VR rides they have nowadays. And it was LOUD. Louder than any movie I've seen since.

    Reading the wikipedia article on sensurround now, they do mention that some theater patrons actually became sick, and there were reports of property damage.

    Say what you want about it, but this was one movie novelty that really brought it. 3D has always been kind of disappointing and lame, but sensurround was actually a little too much.
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    Excuse me, but NOTHING about Smell-O-Vision?

    (also taking bets on how long it'll be before David Kamp gets in here to natter about Cinerama?) #3d
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    Image of Kakapo Kakapo
    11/08/09

    @raincoaster: Hee hee. I still have my smell-o-vision scratch n sniff card, but sadly the smells are long gone. #3d
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    Image of Michael Arrington Michael Arrington
    11/06/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
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    Ryan Tate promoted this comment Edited by Ryan Tate at 11/07/09 7:33 PM Michael Arrington was starred Michael Arrington was unstarred
    Image of Ryan Tate Ryan Tate
    11/08/09

    @Michael Arrington: Just so everyone is totally clear, this isn't the real Mike Arrington. Whoever it is shouldn't be around anymore. (Thought I posted this yesterday but somehow it didn't take.) #druekataoka
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    Image of CumaeanSibyl CumaeanSibyl
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    The real problem with Castle's innovations was the required buy-in -- most movie theaters didn't want to bother paying however much to retrofit their houses for each new movie. "Percepto" only worked for The Tingler, "Emergo" for The House on Haunted Hill, and so on.

    That being said, The Tingler is a goddamn cinematic masterpiece and you should all go watch it right now. #3d
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    Image of FriendlyFloyd FriendlyFloyd
    11/06/09

    @CumaeanSibyl: Nein! Slap Shot was a timeless classic and a cinematic masterpiece wrapped into a bundle of movie bliss that should be watched right now. #3d
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    CumaeanSibyl promoted this comment FriendlyFloyd was starred FriendlyFloyd was unstarred
    Image of CumaeanSibyl CumaeanSibyl
    11/07/09

    @FriendlyFloyd: Yes, but does it have Vincent Price slipping acid to deaf chicks? I don't think so. #3d
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    Image of saxdrummer saxdrummer
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    Awww, come on. Where's DTS, SDDS, Dolby, IMAX, and DLP projection on this list? #3d
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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    3-D 1.0 gave me a splitting headache (much like those magic eye pictures from the 90s).

    3-D 3.0, and especially 3-D IMAX, makes me vomit. Seriously, it's some kind of inner ear thing, I literally retch. #3d
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    Image of TedSez TedSez
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    If the reviews are to be believed, A Christmas Carol depends so much on creepy motion-capture 3D special effects that the actual story gets lost in the shuffle.

    Personally, I'm sticking with the Mr. Magoo version.
    [www.youtube.com]
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    Edited by TedSez at 11/06/09 5:11 PM TedSez was starred TedSez was unstarred
    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    11/06/09

    @TedSez: Somebody really needs to do something about Robert Zemeckis. That creepy mocap stuff, he's got to be stopped. #3d
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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    11/06/09

    @TedSez:
    My dad loves Polar Express, but I felt it would have fit better as a Halloween movie than anything related to Christmas. For getting my Christmas Carol on, I'll stick to one of the two best Christmas movies ever made: A Muppet Christmas Carol (the other best movie being Christmas Story). #3d
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    Image of CumaeanSibyl CumaeanSibyl
    11/06/09

    @TedSez: Nothing beats the Muppet version, for my money. Michael Caine makes an excellent Scrooge. #3d
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    Image of Wookie1972 Wookie1972
    11/06/09

    @lionel-mandrake: Zemeckis has become the anti-Christ of movies. Which is a shame, because everything he did pre-Forrest Gump wasn't bad. #3d
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    Image of kellygeorge kellygeorge
    11/06/09

    @TedSez: The 3d can be great, but usually is not. Disney's problem is that they rely on 3D as a gimmick, waving things over the crowd for no reason. Add in Jim Carrey and you have enough to make anyone barf.
    On the other hand, when it is used correctly it can be great. Like Pixar's Up or Toy Story. No gimmicky stuff, just extra depth to the movie. #3d
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    lionel-mandrake promoted this comment kellygeorge was starred kellygeorge was unstarred
    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    11/07/09

    @kellygeorge: We're talking specifically about creepy mocap 3-D (Polar Express), not stylized animation that happens to be 3-D (Pixar).

    #theuncannyvalley #3d
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    lionel-mandrake was starred lionel-mandrake was unstarred
    Image of burlybax burlybax
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    Corky St. Clair tried a similar approach

    "My first show was Barefoot in the Park, which was an absolute smash, but my production on the stage of Backdraft was what really got them excited. This whole idea of 'In Your Face' theatre really affected them. The conceptualization, the whole abstraction, the obtuseness of this production to me was what was interesting. I wanted the audience to feel the heat from the fire, the fear, because people don't like fire, poked, poked in their noses, you know when you get a cinder from a barbeque right on the end of your nose and you kind of make that face, you know, that's not a good thing, and I wanted them to have the sense memory of that. So during the show I had someone burn newspapers and send it through the vents in the theatre. And well, they freaked out, and 'course the fire Marshall came over and they shut us down for a couple of days" #3d
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    Kevin Purdy promoted this comment burlybax was starred burlybax was unstarred
    Image of Kevin Purdy Kevin Purdy
    11/06/09

    @burlybax: Absolutely relevant. The good folks of Blaine are dynamic customer experience gurus. #3d
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    Kevin Purdy was starred Kevin Purdy was unstarred
    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/06/09

    In reply to A History of the Theater Gimmicks Meant to Save Hollywood
    The Tingler, sure, but Aroma-Rama and Smell-O-Vision deserve a mention--and a sniff. #3d
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    Image of Magister Magister
    11/06/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: ...and if "sound" rates a mention, then maybe "color" and her cousin "techni", not to mention the whole idea of "cinemascope".

    But still, good post. #3d
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    Magister was starred Magister was unstarred
    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/06/09

    @Magister: Excellent point about color and 'scope. As Cole Porter wrote in the 50's: "If you want to get the crowds to come around/Ya gotta have glorious Technicolor, breathtaking CinemaScope, and stereophonic sound." #3d
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/06/09

    @Magister: Now that I think of it, how about the whole star system? In the very early days of film, the actors were anonymous. But then Florence Lawrence was promoted as The Biograph Girl. This was circa 1909. It's a hundred year slide down to Lohan.
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    Edited by TheBusinessGuy at 11/06/09 5:10 PM TheBusinessGuy was starred TheBusinessGuy was unstarred
    Image of filthy tongue filthy tongue
    11/06/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: You got there before me--I was going to mention Smellovision, which reached its apex with John Waters' enhanced release of Polyester in 1982. He had these scratch 'n sniff cards for audiences to use during certain parts of the movie, which featured fart and shit smells on them. I <3 him. #3d
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    Image of SQLGuru SQLGuru
    11/06/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: And all of these are alive an well.....just not in the traditional movie house. All you have to do is go to your nearest amusement park and "ride" their latest. Lilo & Stitch at Disney. Haunted Lighthouse at Six Flags. Whatever. #3d
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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    11/06/09

    @TheBusinessGuy:
    I watched a 4D movie (3D print combined with actual physical effects during the screening) at California Adventure where not only were you suspended in individually articulated chairs (meant they could tilt you so you'd feel g-forces based on how the camera was moving while filming), but they would spray a fine mist when the view was flying over open water, and they could spray different scents based on the environment on the screen (I only really remember the smell of ocean water and the smell of oranges). These are the sort of thing that work well for theme parks, where watching the movie is more about the experience than the film itself, but they kinda fall flat in a more general sense.

    Also, I once read that being able to smell what's happening on-screen would be the death of porn movies. #3d
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    Image of DoctorEcks DoctorEcks
    11/06/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    Is the Hipster Grifter out already? #druekataoka
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    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    11/05/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    From the Very Secret Diaries of Emily Gould:

    10/05/09
    Hmmmm. I wonder how I’d look in pancake makeup and a Veronica Lake.

    10/04/09
    Bennett is totes adorable but this is the last time I let anything with a penis use my MixMaster. Keith is going to have to work on his pizza dough pre-doorbell buzz. There are only so many hours in the day I like to clean my ceiling.

    10/02/09
    Dammit, I knew I shouldn’t have let Julia borrow my boa for her "Dress as a MediaBistro Bimbo" theme party. It came back soaked in Triple Crown rum. Plus I think she tore off the little feathery bit at the end on one of her tit tassels. #druekataoka
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/05/09

    @RollsRoyceRevenge: You already f-ing posted this on another thread. It's still not funny. Or relevant to this blog post. Also, too insidery. Also, shut up. #druekataoka
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    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    11/05/09

    @snugbug: I posted another entry--not this one. I'm sorry if you don't find it funny. #druekataoka
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/05/09

    @RollsRoyceRevenge: I'm sorry I got snippy. This whole thread is getting on my nerves big-time.

    I'm not going to claim that Kataoka comes across as a great contemporary art luminary, but the amount of venom sprayed at her on this thread by vile vipers that have crawled from under untold rocks irritates me.
    The comparison to Julia Allison also irritates me, because it's facile and unwarranted except on a completely surface level.
    Kataoka stated down-thread that the work she's auctioning off for a collaborative project was inspired by her father passing away, and THEN the "ugly," "unattractive," "shticky" comments really kicked in. That also irritates me.

    Peace. #druekataoka
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    Image of toblathe toblathe
    11/05/09

    @snugbug: I have no idea what either of you are talking about... and I gotta say it feels wonderful. #druekataoka
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    snugbug promoted this comment toblathe was starred toblathe was unstarred
    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/05/09

    @toblathe: Well, ignorance IS bliss, so rock on. #druekataoka
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    snugbug was starred snugbug was unstarred
    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    11/06/09

    @snugbug: I was a bit taken aback.

    "Snugbug is being mean to me about my being mean about, um, oh, forget it."

    Just to clarify, Emily is the intended butt of this joke, not Drue, who I have nothing against. The point, such as it is, is that Emily, seeing a degree of notoriety gained by a girl with a vintage look would idly wonder what would happen if she herself sported a vintage look. You're right--too insidery. And probably too likely, but hey.

    I was not comparing anyone to Julia, but then my posting history should show that even if I was it's no big deal. I don't have a problem with Julia. She pretty much does what it says on her label (i.e., MAY CONTAIN NUTS) #druekataoka
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    11/06/09

    @snugbug: Haha, no one called her ugly except you. #druekataoka
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/06/09

    @Motoko Kusanagi: See one Adam Spano's comment down-thread.

    Anyway, let's forget about it. This is getting too ick. #druekataoka
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    11/05/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    This is entirely devoid of content. I will now move on and pretend it didn't happen... because it didn't. #druekataoka
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/05/09

    In reply to Buy a Private Jet Trip with Ice Cream-Licking Art Star of Silicon Valley
    Giz, why are you helping to publicize this shameless self-promoter? #druekataoka
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    Image of Adam Spano Adam Spano
    11/05/09

    @Hll Mstr Wlrs:

    Srsly.

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    snugbug promoted this comment Edited by Ryan Tate at 11/07/09 7:36 PM Adam Spano was starred Adam Spano was unstarred
    Image of snugbug snugbug
    11/06/09

    @Adam Spano: Gross. #druekataoka
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