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    Any Data You Give to Google Can and Will Be Used Against You

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    Image of Solomon Grundy Solomon Grundy
    10/09/09

    In reply to Any Data You Give to Google Can and Will Be Used Against You
    I solve this problem with the Michael Scott smokescreen method -- half my emails are admissions of actual criminal behavior, half are outlandish, easily falsifiable lies. Foolproof!
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    Image of gefilte_fish_blues gefilte_fish_blues
    10/09/09

    In reply to Any Data You Give to Google Can and Will Be Used Against You
    Next thing you know the U.S. Post office will be used to jail mobsters.
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    Image of FormerEnglishMajor FormerEnglishMajor
    10/09/09

    @gefilte_fish_blues: you are so hearted for that one.
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    Image of depardoo depardoo
    10/09/09

    In reply to Any Data You Give to Google Can and Will Be Used Against You
    I am the most knee-jerk liberal in the world, but I have no problem with what Google did in the Bear Stearns case. If you have something sensitive to say, don't do it in an e-mail. We've known that for years. What's amazing is that the most sophisticated and powerful people still seem to get caught by e-mail's ease of utility.
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    Edited by depardoo at 10/09/09 12:50 PM depardoo was starred depardoo was unstarred
    Image of FormerEnglishMajor FormerEnglishMajor
    10/09/09

    @depardoo: totally agree. It's evidence. Deleting an email account to hide evidence is like throwing a murder weapon in the ocean and assuming it's gone forever.

    Sorry, you do the crime - and the authorities search for evidence - it shouldn't matter if they find that evidence via a CD-ROM that has to be asked for or a sonar that has to be conducted.

    If Ryan Jenkins was emailing that he hated his wife, had bought a knife, and was going to kill her, would subpoena-ing Google for his old email account NOT be OK? Is it just that it was a financial crime? To me, crime is crime. You email, you know the ramifications.
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    Edited by FormerEnglishMajor at 10/09/09 1:00 PM FormerEnglishMajor was starred FormerEnglishMajor was unstarred
    Image of theartdodger theartdodger
    10/09/09

    @FormerEnglishMajor: I agree too. But, they also talking about deleted email?

    If so, I would have a problem with that.
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    Image of FormerEnglishMajor FormerEnglishMajor
    10/09/09

    @theartdodger: OK, I'll bite. If they are admissions of illegal activity - of COURSE they're going to be deleted! Again, it's like throwing out a murder weapon, or throwing out a license plate from a stolen car. I guess I don't understand why - when these are educated guys who know how things work - that they should be given protection from their own stupidity. They WROTE DOWN that they thought their fund was going to blow up. Damn straight that's evidence, and of course they'll try to hide it.

    I
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    Image of celery celery
    10/09/09

    @FormerEnglishMajor: I worry about the ends justify the means attitude here. Is the idea that we should be able to access deleted email if and only if the emailer is a criminal? Kind of a hard call to make.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it worked out in this particular case. But I wouldn't trust the government to get it right every time, or even most of the time.
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    Image of NotChoinski NotChoinski
    10/09/09

    In reply to Any Data You Give to Google Can and Will Be Used Against You
    Freedom to fully utilize the Internet isn't free - it costs a $1.09
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    Image of ninety_nine ninety_nine
    10/09/09

    In reply to Any Data You Give to Google Can and Will Be Used Against You
    Huh, I missed that part where the Internet was exempt from discovery.
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    10/09/09

    In reply to Any Data You Give to Google Can and Will Be Used Against You
    This is why I loathe Google... even though it makes up a decent majority of my life, dammit.
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    Image of FormerEnglishMajor FormerEnglishMajor
    10/09/09

    @Conchie Birdie: if you were an investor in that fund, or a person being harrassed by someone hiding behind a gmail account.... I'm not one for active Secret Police, but Google isn't doing that, they are reactive, not proactive, in giving information.
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    10/09/09

    @FormerEnglishMajor: To clarify - My disdain is over the fact that Google has so much power and information at their fingertips. The way in which they use it seems like a more complicated matter concerning where the lines of privacy are drawn.

    Wow, I apologize for that last sentence.
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    Image of FormerEnglishMajor FormerEnglishMajor
    10/09/09

    @Conchie Birdie: oh - sorry - got it. Google to me is like COnde Nast for others in publishing - doubt I'd work there, just nice to know it exists (in that "built in a garage and made a billion dollars" way).
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    10/09/09

    @FormerEnglishMajor: I admire the whole "story" and reasoning behind Google, but the amount of power they hold with all of that information - holy crap.

    A few former friends work there... seems a bit too 'cultish' for me.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    10/09/09

    In reply to Any Data You Give to Google Can and Will Be Used Against You
    So is there a legal recourse people have to have their historical emails deleted when they shut down the account? Or does Google just have blackmail rights over the entire world?
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    10/09/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Of course they do! Google will eventually take over the entire world, and not even papal rule could stop them!
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    Image of goetz goetz
    10/09/09

    @Conchie Birdie: That's why Pope Rizzo Ratzinger uses Hotmail.
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    Image of nozer nozer
    10/09/09

    @Conchie Birdie: What about paypal rule?
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    10/09/09

    @nozer: I'm sure Goog can keep it at (e)bay.
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    Image of Kenton Davis Kenton Davis
    10/06/09

    In reply to Did Your Email Get Hacked? Maybe.
    Dumb folk have gmail accounts??
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    Image of Aaron Altman Aaron Altman
    10/07/09

    @Kenton Davis: Yes. Why?
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    10/06/09

    In reply to Did Your Email Get Hacked? Maybe.
    This is why I'm sticking with my aol account... no hacker would waste their time on aol!
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    10/06/09

    In reply to Did Your Email Get Hacked? Maybe.
    I think warnings are helpful in America. Like, our new toaster has a caveat: do not take item into your bath. Now if I could just figure out how to feed it.
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    Image of Uh oh... Cleveland Uh oh... Cleveland
    10/06/09

    In reply to Did Your Email Get Hacked? Maybe.
    Let's see....

    Email hacked
    vs.
    My dick gets bigger

    Hmmm.... hard choice...
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    Artie Fufkin promoted this comment Uh oh... Cleveland was starred Uh oh... Cleveland was unstarred
    Image of adoringava adoringava
    10/06/09

    In reply to Did Your Email Get Hacked? Maybe.
    I just respond to all of those emails because one day it *won't* be a scam, and then the jokes on you losers! hahaha ....oh wait....
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    Tremonius promoted this comment adoringava was starred adoringava was unstarred
    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    10/06/09

    @adoringava: Who was it, Descartes? Said, nothing that is conceived but what exists. Go ahead, try. By that reasoning, there is indeed out there somewhere some lone lorn widow of the Nigerian finance minister yearning for her accumulated family fortune to breathe free.

    Speaking of which, anybody see The Informant!?
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    Image of pufflehuff pufflehuff
    10/06/09

    @Tremonius: I'm going to on Friday. I'll get back to you then.
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    10/06/09

    @pufflehuff: Okay, do the math on the numbers. I don't mean the $11.5 mil. I mean Whitacker calling himself "0014" because he's "twice as smart as 007." Not by my calculator.
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    Image of pufflehuff pufflehuff
    10/08/09

    @Tremonius: Hah! Looking forward to it!
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    10/14/09

    @Tremonius: Saw it last Fri - teehee! And the ever-increasing numbers, teehee! As for the 0014, I knew that was coming, and still I teehee'd - and I'm not easily pleased.
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    10/15/09

    @pufflehuff: I was a little unnerved that one symptom of bipolar disorder was elaborate daydreaming. And I was glad to know that every single calamity befalling ol' Mark was exclusively of his own doing. He was making - what? $360K - and on the up escalator when his daydreams started leaking out of his mouth. #email
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    Image of lobstr lobstr
    10/06/09

    In reply to Did Your Email Get Hacked? Maybe.
    I'll never forget my first glimpse of that shit back in 1995.. some shitty animated .gif banner that said Click on the Flapping Pelican to Win Free AA Batteries! .. and then it forwarded to some .ru site that asked for your AOL password... ah, the ol' days!
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    Image of yourfriendandneighbor yourfriendandneighbor
    10/06/09

    In reply to Did Your Email Get Hacked? Maybe.
    i guess this is why i was emailed that i won £750.000.00 in a Toyota promotion this morning. All they need is all my pertinent info and the money is mine.
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    10/15/09

    @yourfriendandneighbor: It's slightly more clever than just demanding personal data. The usual pitch is that the wife of the finance minister of the Nigerian regime needs to bribe customs to relase the ten million in gold bullion to you.

    I used to laugh at all this - until I read how often it works. Sort of eerie to think you live in a world where anybody around you may be dumb enough to fall for the Nigerian scam. #email
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    Image of Cheap Shot Cheap Shot
    09/01/09

    In reply to How to Cope With the Loss of GMail
    It's funny but I had more of a heart attack when Gawker went down. Sad but true.
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