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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    11/28/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    By waiting in line, these people are demonstrating more perseverence than their idol brought to the actual task of governing. Who in their right mind would actually vote for someone who bailed on the biggest job she was ever elected to in order to go on a book tour and do some talk shows? Sarah Palin has no interest in doing any actual work; can we all just concede that she's auditioned for, and gotten, her dream job: just another ignorant Republican Christianist blowhard and leave it at that?
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    Image of Mama Penguino Mama Penguino
    11/28/09

    @Mediahohoho: This was the video I watched after which I determined that I was going to move to China, MH3.
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    Image of Rachael Jones Rachael Jones
    11/28/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    Can we end the exploitation of people waiting in line? I really don't want to have to wait in a line and worry about some smart-ass blogger shoving a mic in my face. I don't really care what they are waiting in line for. Let people wait without having someone else's political agenda shoved in their faces.
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    11/28/09

    @Rachael Jones: Why? Is there something about standing in line that saps brain cells? It's easy enough not to talk to someone with a camera and a microphone, you simply don't say anything. Also, what exactly was smart-assed about this guy? I thought he was pretty respectful; these people dug their own rhetorical holes.
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    11/28/09

    @Rachael Jones: Listen--if you are waiting in line, it is because you are getting ready to be exploited anyway.
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    Beats thinking.
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    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    I have a mental list in my head. It's called, "Reasons to Stay in America: Pros and Cons." And the cons are growing.

    Con 34892084: Will be too tempted to use our lax gun laws to shoot some of these people in the face; do not want to go to jail.
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    Image of Lincolnsbeard33 Lincolnsbeard33
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    meh this is no different then some of the people who supported Obama during the election. There are incredibly stupid people on both sides
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    Image of Karlifornia Karlifornia
    11/27/09

    @Lincolnsbeard33: Sure, there were people that voted for Obama just because he's black (nevermind that black people only make up about 10% of the population), but I'm sure those people were more than cancelled out by the people who didn't vote for him just because he's black.
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    Image of Lincolnsbeard33 Lincolnsbeard33
    11/27/09

    @Karlifornia: yeah it doesn't work that way. Both sides have people who are stupid. Odds are it's pretty even distribution. Saying one side has more stupid people then the other is just well stupid.

    In fact I would be willing to bet that majority of people who voted for either side have no idea on what the issues are.
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    Edited by Lincolnsbeard33 at 11/27/09 8:11 PM Lincolnsbeard33 was starred Lincolnsbeard33 was unstarred
    Image of Karlifornia Karlifornia
    11/27/09

    @Lincolnsbeard33: Sorry, I think people who vote down gay marriage, stem cell research, want to teach intelligent design in schools, etc, are generally idiotic people, and most of them are on the right. So, yeah, I'd say there are more stupid people on one side than the other.
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    Image of Lincolnsbeard33 Lincolnsbeard33
    11/27/09

    @Karlifornia: you are not helping our side look good.

    Yes there are people who are against gay marriage and stem cell research (although you do realize that it is not illegal to do stem cell research it is just you can't get government funding for it. Which is ok with me because all the advancements in stem cell research have come from the private sector and have done with non embryonic stem cells, Oh and that's another thing it is only embryonic stem cell research that doesn't get government money.) But those people are not the majority of their side.

    Just like there are people on our side (I assume you are a democrat or at the very least liberal) who scream about all sorts of crazy things that are just as insane as voting against gay marriage and what not.

    Both sides have an equal number of idiots who are able to scream at the top of their lungs and those people are probably the majority of the party.

    If you don't know people like this then that person is you.
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    11/27/09

    @Karlifornia: here you go more people who voted even though they know nothing about what was going on.

    I have seen the whole movie and it is pretty bad but this segment does stand out. I blame the media partially for this because you can tell what stories got more attention then the actual issues and policies of the candidates.

    Plus the guy who did this has a hard on for Palin.
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    Edited by Lincolnsbeard33 at 11/27/09 9:01 PM Lincolnsbeard33 was starred Lincolnsbeard33 was unstarred
    Image of Old Ocho Old Ocho
    11/28/09

    @Lincolnsbeard33: "Plus the guy who did this has a hard on for Palin."

    So why should we believe anything he shows in that video? Especially since his survey was nothing but a push poll full of outright lies. (His name is John Ziegler by the way and he has even upset other conservatives with his frightening desire to lick Sarah Palin's vagina.)
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    Image of atlasfugged atlasfugged
    11/28/09

    @Lincolnsbeard33: I won't get into a discussion about the intelligence of Palin supporters vs. Obama supporters. (I'd put my money on Obama supporters being on average more intelligent than Palin supporters, if ever such an improbable study were conducted, notwithstanding your YouTube evidence to the contrary ).

    But, you're wrong on stem cells. (1) It is not illegal to do stem cell research, especially now that the "ban" has been lifted by the Obama administration. Government funding of embryonic stem cell research during the Bush administration was restricted to a specific set of embryonic stem cell lines. Federally-subsidized experiments could be and were conducted on those lines during the Bush Adminstration. The research was never illegal. It is important to distinguish between stem cells, in general, and embryonic stem cells. Federal funding was not restricted for research on non-embryonic stem cells. Furthermore, funding by state governments were not subject to the federal requirements of the Bush administration. (2) There were several high-profile experiments using adult stem-cells in recent years. Stem-cells exist in adults but typically lack the pluripotency of embryonic stem-cells. The research that you are probably familiar with relates to inducing pluripotent stem cells from adult cells - e.g. skin cells. The methods to induce these cells are inefficient and typically inject extraneous genetic material into the resulting cell. The jury is still out as to whether the pluripotency of adult stem cells match that of embryonic stem cells and whether the former is as versatile, in general. Embryonic stem cells are still considered superior. (3) Much of the research actually occurred outside of this country. The first successful experiment to induce a pluripotent stem cell occurred in Japan, for example. In this country, much of the research into stem cells was funded, during the Bush administration, and is still funded through grants from government agencies like the NIH and the NSF and from state governments. If you look through the literature regarding induced pluripotent stem cells, in particular, you'll likely find that most of the research was funded via grants from the NSF or NIH. Like it or not, while the private sector undoubtedly plays a significant role, pure (non-commercial, non-practical) scientific research - like stem cell research - tends to occur in academia with government grants.
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    Mama Penguino promoted this comment Edited by atlasfugged at 11/28/09 2:42 AM atlasfugged was starred atlasfugged was unstarred
    Image of Lincolnsbeard33 Lincolnsbeard33
    11/28/09

    @Old Ocho: John Ziegler that's the douces name. Anyhow it is one of those cases where the clip speaks for itself. These are just normal people who just voted for Obama just like the interviews with people standing inline to wait for Palin.
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    Image of Lincolnsbeard33 Lincolnsbeard33
    11/28/09

    @atlasfugged: hmm I didn't realize that they had lifted the ban on funding stem cell research. Sweet. Anyhow I am not going to get into an disscusion on where the best research for stem cells comes from as this topic has really nothing to do with that.

    As for the Obama supporters I would say they are even if anything the Obama supporters have the edge on stupidity seeing as Obama won with a large majority of the votes. Meaning that he got a larger portion of the stupid population.

    I mean it's just simple numbers if you were to say about 75% of the population is stupid or at the very least knows nothing about politics then seeing as he won with a large majority.... well you see where I am going.
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    Image of Benny Benny
    11/28/09

    @Lincolnsbeard33: You got hearted just now. No substitute for even handed rationality. I'm your fan.
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    Image of bythesidewalk bythesidewalk
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    fhskjhfdjkshsdhjdsfhsdjhfdjhgj...
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    Image of bythesidewalk bythesidewalk
    11/27/09

    @bythesidewalk: fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck these goddamn people
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    Image of Glib and Bitchy Glib and Bitchy
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    And there I was hoping that -- just once -- someone being pressed to explain their answer would say: "In what respect, Charlie?"
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    Image of Lucky Lucky
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    "I've heard that over and over again."
    If Fox News AND my pastor AND my neighbor says they heard it somewhere, it must be true!

    Right?

    These people believe that hearing their own echoes is proof that the accusations they spew are true. They feed on their own garbage, it's no wonder not a single one of them can provide any substantial answer to specific questions.
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    Image of Spirit Fingers Spirit Fingers
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    This is extremely unsurprising. Dumb sheep blindly talking nonsense about their anointed jester...obviously. Who else would actually show up? I'd like to hear from some actual thinking people, not sycophantic dolts, (if they exist) who believe Sarah Palin to be the next best thing. Otherwise it's just a matter of saying the 2012 election will be decided by her mentally-stressed base.

    I think she'll need more than that.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    11/27/09

    @Spirit Fingers: Agreed... but you've got to admit that erudite interviewees would be much less fun to watch.
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    Image of Spirit Fingers Spirit Fingers
    11/27/09

    @Lysergic Asset: Not necessarily. I'm thinking watching as someone tries to explain the relevancy and necessity of Sarah Palin would offer loads of laugh worthy moments.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    11/27/09

    @Spirit Fingers: Please post any sane interviews you find, and I promise to do the same.
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    Image of Spirit Fingers Spirit Fingers
    11/27/09

    @Lysergic Asset: Agreed. Although at this point I wonder about the over-under on those odds.
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    Image of Buttafooco Buttafooco
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    So he's basically interviewing Sarah Palin in various human forms. This is proof of reincarnation.
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    Image of Al Swearengen Al Swearengen
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    A suggestion - if you are going to be for or against a particular candidate, make sure you know enough about their policies to make an informed decision. Saying that you don't like someone just because you don't like them is not a real reason to not like them. I cringed whenever the guy asked the supporters why they liked Palin, and they had no answers. "I think she'll be good for the county"? Why would she be good for the country? Give me an actual reason, not just that you think something.
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    Image of SpyMagician SpyMagician
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'

    I think this eBay auction is an apt assessment of this video.
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    Image of OliversArmy OliversArmy
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    I wish he would have asked each of them if this was their first trip to a bookstore.
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    Image of Lucky Lucky
    11/27/09

    @OliversArmy: Of course not, Borders sold them the Bible that they need to look up verses condemning homosexuality in Leviticus.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    11/27/09

    @Lucky: Zing! Excellent.
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    Image of PaisleyPajamas PaisleyPajamas
    11/27/09

    In reply to 'The State That She Did Govern Was Right Across the Street from Russia'
    Y'all want to keep the beauty queen candidate out of the White House? Make a commitment to alternative energy and conservation.

    Her consistent and rhetorical bleetings--always on que!--about drilling for oil in Alaska points to the fact that Big Oil would be her financial backer in any future run for office. If our over consumption of fossil fuels falls over the next 3 years she'd be hard pressed to finance a run for a position as judge of a moose chili cook-off.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    11/27/09

    @PaisleyPajamas: It's not going to happen, but it's an excellent point nonetheless. (Don't blame me, I've never had a driver's license.)
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    Edited by Lysergic Asset at 11/27/09 4:44 PM Lysergic Asset was starred Lysergic Asset was unstarred
    Image of PaisleyPajamas PaisleyPajamas
    11/27/09

    @Lysergic Asset: Maybe shut the lights of when you're not using them? In the name of "We Don't Want Palin For Prez?" Thank you, kindly. ;)
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    11/27/09


    @PaisleyPajamas: You betcha!

    (That's supposed to say Miss Wink)
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    Edited by Lysergic Asset at 11/27/09 5:39 PM Lysergic Asset was starred Lysergic Asset was unstarred
    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    11/27/09

    @PaisleyPajamas: I was going to attach a pic of Sarah Palin winking with my "You betcha!" response, but thought it was too cliche. Of course, the lingerie-clad chick playing with her dogs might have sent the wrong message. That's what I get for trying to be too clever. Sorry.
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    11/27/09

    @Lysergic Asset: HA! Love it! That's what she's sellin', after all!
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    Image of z00L z00L
    11/27/09

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    "Drill not just for oil, but for gas too."

    Wow. WOW.

    I think these people were at my mom's house yesterday for Thanksgiving dinner. Hence, me leaving before pumpkin pie. NO PIE!
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    Image of fuckingoldman fuckingoldman
    11/27/09

    @z00L: Um, you do actually drill for natural gas.
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    Image of Makidian Makidian
    11/27/09

    @fuckingoldman: They weren't talking about natural gas, I am so ashamed to live in Ohio already but know I am completely embarassed as well.
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    11/27/09

    @Makidian: In fairness, how do you know that? FOM is right, that could have been a relatively sensible statement, albeit one with the underlying logic of which I disagree.
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    11/27/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: Thanks. Don't the drill everywhere people really piss you off? I live on the Gulf coast of Florida, and people are saying we should be drilling off this coast now. Our favorite orange politician, Charlie Crist, seems to agree with them too. We are so screwed.
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    Image of Makidian Makidian
    11/28/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: It could have been a relatively sensible statement but taking it in that particular context is not the way it should be taken because that is not what the person saying it meant. If they meant natural gas they would have specifically said natural gas and sadly enough, I know people that have thought you can just drill for gasoline. My in-laws are barely elevated above the people in this video in their knowledge of politics but they still watch FOX News and follow everything they are told like a bunch of blind sheep.
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    11/28/09

    @Makidian: I'm sorry, you're making an assumption. It may be a correct assumption, but it's still an assumption.
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    Image of Makidian Makidian
    11/29/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: I am making an assumption and it likely is correct.
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    11/29/09

    @Makidian: Block that point!
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