One walked over to ask the security guard wtf he was doing to our vehicle and wtf he was setting flares off near our car in a high fire danger alert.
The other one ran over because the first guy was being assaulted by "security guards."
Notice the lack of 'PRIVATE PROPERTY, NO TRESPASSING' signs. There are none. (probably are by now)
It is felt that the flare was meant to lure the first guy onto that property to reasonably ask what the hell that security goon thought he was doing around our car.
@xenubarb: No. If they were on public property when they were protesting, and their car that was being vandalized was on public property, I still can't figure out why they ended up on the compound.
Did the security guards retreat to the compound after they saw you approach and you followed them? In the video, it looks like everything is taking place by the truck.
@sleze69: They didn't run back into any "compound"; they just crossed back over their (alleged) property line, after luring the Anonymous kiddlies with them. I think the Hemet base straddles the public highway and the property lines are not clearly marked.
@FaceMelter: Anonymous, however wacky they may be, don't have a history that includes depriving group members of psychiatric care until such members snap and murder people, or starving group members to death rather than allowing them to leave the cult. So, no, just you.
@Mark Ebner: @MissNormaDesmond: Is FaceMelter the one who lives near the Scientogy Center in LA, and is really angry about the protesters making it hard to back into his parking space?
I thought that was called "hog-tying" and not "dog-tying". And what the hell were they doing fussing with the tying up and knotting of him for so long? I thought they were macrame-ing a damn sweater onto him.
The Church of Scientology really are quite a scary gang. They make you give all your money to them, and then say "Ok, well, come and work for us. Instead of paying you, you can live and eat on us. Oh, and that will salary will also pay for your classes so you can get clear and move up levels." They offered a guy my family knows $1.3 million on his house (that he was not interested in selling) that was worth $500,000 because they are trying to buy every house on the street he lives on. They literally have so much money they don't know what to do with it.
When I clicked through to the Hollywood, Interrupted article, the ad placed on the page was for "TomCruise.com - the official website". Heh - good work Google, for once at least you actually aren't evil.
@musicmope: Yeah, but that was a time when stepping on a rusty nail would probably kill you, the streets flowed with shit, your kids were lucky to survive into adulthood, and bandits or feudal lords regularly mugged you on the road, plundered your land, and raped everyone in your family.
Plus, before the crusades, the Europeans hadn't known the joys of spiced food. Life without cinnamon or pepper? ...simply awful!
As a rule, in those days, violence was constant and insanely brutal, regardless of one's culture.
I don't think I've ever met a Scientologist; it's not very big in New Zealand, where we major in scepticism and secularism. Are they like Christian Scientists? Cos they look freaky...
@Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith: The more I learn about your little nation the more I love it. Sigh. Do you have delicatessens? If the answer is yes, I'm moving there.
@BookishLookish: It helps when your country is founded during the 19th century and its preponderance of liberals and freethinkers. It also helps if said founders were Anglican and therefore rather laissez faire about all things religious.
We do have delicatessans, although I can't advise on the quality as I am vegetarian. We have lots of good eats in Wellington though, due to a large number of Italian, Greek, Eastern European, Lebanese, Assyrian, and Indian immigrants. So I can't advise on salami, but how do you feel about fattoush?
@Withnail: Ha, it's a Lebanese salad. Heaven in a bowl, and I have the empty bank account to prove it (well, even more empty. I'm a student, and I live well beyond my means).
My father has belonged to the Sceptic Society for much of my life, and I had always believed it was some sort of scientific organisation (my father is an engineer, with a B Sc. in Chem.). That was until I read The God Delusion, and found out its true ungodly roots as an Atheist society...
@Saxon 212: To be true, there are religious people here, but we do religion differently; there's no established church, no mention of God in our Bill of Rights or its preamble, and in our last census (2006), around 20,000 people declared their religion as Jedi. Which is pretty impressive for a country with a population of 4 million...
@BookishLookish: My favourite restaurant, Habebie, also does amazing tabbouleh. The real kind, too. Where the proportion of parsley outweighs the bulghur. It's almost as good as my cousin Yael's. Probably better even, but she doesn't charge me for hers...
@BookishLookish: No I didn't, but pitseleh is a common expression in my family. Last year I lived and worked in a suburb of Wellington famous for its multiculturalism (multiple generations of immigrants and poor students), and no one is sweeter than the old men that used to come in to my work. They're all Greek, Italian, Lebanese and Assyrian, and they love nothing more than to shoot the bull and guilt trip me into going to midnight mass. I once remarked on a poster of Babylon on the wall of a kebab shop, and ended up seeing the family photo album of the owners from 'the old days' and having a very long discussion about the awesomeness of the oldest civilisation in the world, and how sad it is that it's largely destroyed.
Anonymous, you need to learn some covert skills. These Scientologists don't believe in Jesus and they are not turning the other cheek. Watch yourselves out there.
@jbwan: So does this mean when the Scientologists who do the "stress test" keep bugging me as I walk from the E train to the 7 underground at the 42nd Street Station, I can give them a beatdown, since they are trespassing on my personal space?
I have always wanted to take the stress test and as I am taking it convulse wildly and say in the best televangelist voice, "The Holy Spirit has entered me and the Lord Jesus Christ has commanded me to start converting sinners and those who do not know the power of the Lord Jesus Christ." Pointing to the now probably confused cultists, continue the spiel, "So sinners, will you renounce your false prophet and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal saviour?"
@Triborough: Ha. I'd pay to see that. If you could somehow manage to make angels appear down in the subway and cause an innocent bystander to have a conniption, I'd pay long money!
No - it's great. Just bone up on their online 'personality' test till you work out where their triggers are (very easy to spot), then go sit the test and blitz it. And walk out. I've done it a couple of times when bored and feeling nasty. Watching their faces as you walk out the door is priceless.
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- They were protesting on public property outside the entrance
- Their car was parked on the shoulder of a road (public property)
- They were "tricked" into running back to their car
- They were detained for tresspassing on Scientology propery??
Why did they run on the property in the first place?
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One walked over to ask the security guard wtf he was doing to our vehicle and wtf he was setting flares off near our car in a high fire danger alert.
The other one ran over because the first guy was being assaulted by "security guards."
Notice the lack of 'PRIVATE PROPERTY, NO TRESPASSING' signs. There are none. (probably are by now)
It is felt that the flare was meant to lure the first guy onto that property to reasonably ask what the hell that security goon thought he was doing around our car.
Does that "add up" for you now?
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Did the security guards retreat to the compound after they saw you approach and you followed them? In the video, it looks like everything is taking place by the truck.
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Plus, before the crusades, the Europeans hadn't known the joys of spiced food. Life without cinnamon or pepper? ...simply awful!
As a rule, in those days, violence was constant and insanely brutal, regardless of one's culture.
Standards have changed a bit.
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We do have delicatessans, although I can't advise on the quality as I am vegetarian. We have lots of good eats in Wellington though, due to a large number of Italian, Greek, Eastern European, Lebanese, Assyrian, and Indian immigrants. So I can't advise on salami, but how do you feel about fattoush?
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And I assume fattoush is a kind of orc. Do I have that right?
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My father has belonged to the Sceptic Society for much of my life, and I had always believed it was some sort of scientific organisation (my father is an engineer, with a B Sc. in Chem.). That was until I read The God Delusion, and found out its true ungodly roots as an Atheist society...
@Saxon 212: To be true, there are religious people here, but we do religion differently; there's no established church, no mention of God in our Bill of Rights or its preamble, and in our last census (2006), around 20,000 people declared their religion as Jedi. Which is pretty impressive for a country with a population of 4 million...
@BookishLookish: My favourite restaurant, Habebie, also does amazing tabbouleh. The real kind, too. Where the proportion of parsley outweighs the bulghur. It's almost as good as my cousin Yael's. Probably better even, but she doesn't charge me for hers...
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I have always wanted to take the stress test and as I am taking it convulse wildly and say in the best televangelist voice, "The Holy Spirit has entered me and the Lord Jesus Christ has commanded me to start converting sinners and those who do not know the power of the Lord Jesus Christ." Pointing to the now probably confused cultists, continue the spiel, "So sinners, will you renounce your false prophet and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal saviour?"
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No - it's great. Just bone up on their online 'personality' test till you work out where their triggers are (very easy to spot), then go sit the test and blitz it. And walk out. I've done it a couple of times when bored and feeling nasty. Watching their faces as you walk out the door is priceless.
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It's my job, Bookish.