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    Image of twig twig
    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    You've been doing fairly well, Ryan, but you're falling into one of the classic 'Wag traps: you, like your predecessor, consistently misinterpret the connection between engineers and execs. This is especially important at Google, where the work experience for engineers is different than the experience in other divisions of the company.

    This is not to say that bad execs and good execs have no effect on engineers, because they do -- particularly the bad ones, who can very easily spoil a development environment. But the factors that determine a "good" or "bad" exec from an engineer's point of view are frequently not the same as the factors that cause the business press to draw conclusions about their quality.

    So what did GoogNYCers really think of Armstrong or your other gossip targets? It's astonishing that in a company that employees thousands of engineers, you can't find a single decent tipster. They are out there, I am sure.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    My old roommate worked for Google, and her complaints were about the following:

    - Relentless, robotic corporate culture
    - How braindead said culture made her feel
    - Higher management pressure to party and be seen with other Googlers
    - The fact that so many other Googlers can't understand why a normal person would want to have non-work friends
    - Politics and office drama associated with zombie corporate culture and rampant social incest
    - How fucking boring it was
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    11/18/09

    @pureblarney: Yep. I heard the same thing.

    Money aside (and it's not an inconsiderable aside), the couple times I've visited friends there (hey, free lunch), it seemed an atrocious place to work. Gave me the creeps.
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    11/18/09

    @pureblarney: I have a friend who worked there as well. After he got married, he asked if he could cut back to 11 hours a day, or if that wasn't possible, to transition into part time or flex time.

    His supervisor flipped out and questioned his loyalty (?!!?) and then started screwing with him, changing deadlines, etc until my friend quit.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    You know, while it may pay for things like food, rent, alcohol and limousines, money really *isn't* everything. For a lot of people, there is a point where no amount of money can make working in a difficult job bearable. Once you're making enough to live on, a company just offering to throw more money at you in order that you shut up and accept any amount of abuse that they heap on you just is not a very compelling offer anymore.

    I don't work at Google and I don't make a lot of money. But I have worked at other places like that, where I could have made a lot of money if I had just agreed to play their little games and given up any semblance of my own life as part of the deal. I chose to leave instead too.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    Gimme a break. The IPO was 5 years ago and the company went from 2000 to 20,000 employees since then. If people are leaving, it's because Google is no longer a start up. I'm sure the food and stuff is still wonderful, but the potential to get filthy stinking rich is not what it used to be.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    Well, taking turns driving around every city in the world taking picures of every single stretch of street has got to be a horrible way to start a Monday.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    There's probably issues finding parking in those razor scooter racks on monday mornings or something

    (please never show that photo again of the razor scooter racks at google--eyes already bled out from the first time you did it)
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    I used to work at Yahoo! and have many friends at Google. I must say, they do have great benefits... but the politics and uncertainty associated with working for such a large company can be difficult.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to What's So Unbearable about Working at Google New York?
    My job makes me cry and want to cut myself, and I can't leave because I need the tiny salary that won't even get me out of my parents' house. So Google can keep whining. And yes, I'm bitter and it could be worse. But it still sucks.
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Will Evangelize Your Tech Company for Food
    If Scoble hasn't got something on FriendFeed about him, he's dead to me. #dondodge
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Will Evangelize Your Tech Company for Food
    Oh, c'mon Ryan, 'thanks' and 'good luck with that *is* 'Fuck You' in ValSpeak. Remember?

    And Evangelists are the assholes who SHOULD be the first to be laid off.. but usually, due to politics and their innate assholier than thou attitudes and exec patronage are the last. #dondodge
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Will Evangelize Your Tech Company for Food
    Well, he's right about Internet Explorer and Windows Mobile 6.5. They both suck.

    Also, he looks a lot like Stephen Colbert with a hot poker shoved up his rear.
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Will Evangelize Your Tech Company for Food
    Evangelist or whore? #dondodge
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/17/09

    @econdave: There's a difference? #dondodge
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    11/17/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: Not much. #dondodge
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    11/17/09

    @econdave: Sorry, this is small change biz as usual compared to Sarah Lacey gushing about 'emerging India' on BollyCrunch.

    Wining, dining, Vivek Wadhwa lingham and taking dictation:

    [mindtaker.blogspot.com]

    Seriously, this is the best PR fluff she's never written.
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    Image of Navin R Johnson Navin R Johnson
    11/17/09

    In reply to The Google Princess' Fairy Tale Wedding
    New crazy interview question at Google: How many countries have a gross national product lower than the cost of Mayer's wedding? #zachbogue
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    11/16/09

    In reply to The Google Princess' Fairy Tale Wedding
    Forget the Four Seasons... the top Google search result for "fairy tale wedding" dictates that Mayer & Bogue tie the knot here. #zachbogue
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    11/16/09

    In reply to The Google Princess' Fairy Tale Wedding
    It all sounds pretty Bogue-us to me. #zachbogue
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