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    Image of Island of Misfit Toys Island of Misfit Toys
    12/03/09

    In reply to National Geographic Adventure Folds
    This is the first magazine death that upset me.
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    Image of Magister Magister
    12/03/09

    In reply to National Geographic Adventure Folds
    The wife and I were subscribing to NatGeo Adventure up until a couple of months ago. Sorry for any part, I may have played in its demise.

    PS) We still get the main mag and the Kids, so don't blame me if other units are having problems.
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    Image of miss_msry miss_msry
    12/03/09

    In reply to National Geographic Adventure Folds
    Shiite, I subscribed just YESTERDAY to NatGeo Adventure as a Christmas present for my nephew. Now I have to get online and find something else just as cheap.

    Are the powers at Belo out of their minds?
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    12/03/09

    In reply to National Geographic Adventure Folds
    Re: The Dallas Morning News. Turning over edit to sales is the breaking of the seventh seal, right? And I say this as a business guy.
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    Image of Atilla the Bun Atilla the Bun
    12/03/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: DMN is owned by the evil overload Belo Corporation, which has always seemed to filter its right-wing affiliations through the content of the paper. This is just another nail in its coffin of suck.
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    12/03/09

    @Atilla the Bun: Well, as much as I dislike the right wing, they have the inalienable right to be stupid in their printed opinions, and of course even supposedly objective content will have a slant or a tinge--that's just the way the world works. But knocking down the church/state wall? Ugly!
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    12/03/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: I was raised with the Morning News as the regional Big City paper, and it has ever blended sections into one monolith. The news other places might carry stories of how Ross Perot is embarrassed that his EDS could not account for a million in services paid for by the feds, but the Op-Ed of the Morning News was all about a Black mother accepting a fifty dollar welfare payment to which she was apparently not entitled. Also, you'd see no even-handed review of the Oil Depletion Allowance, and over in sports, a writer was railing against Carlos and Smith years after they'd lifted their hands in Mexico City. It was Faux Noise in print, and I wonder why Rupert never bothered to acquire it.
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    Image of Atilla the Bun Atilla the Bun
    12/03/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: The problem is that because of the easing of FCC restrictions that used to strictly limit the number of newspapers and broadcast stations that an entity could own, Belo now controls a large amount of news content, much of which purports to be objective and simply isn't. Belo has the right to do this, certainly, but I also have the right to say it makes for sucky "journalism." This latest bit of news is just more of the same.
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    12/03/09

    @Atilla the Bun: Point taken, and I grieve to remember that those rules were eased by the Clinton administration, and the late Ted Kennedy, to his shame, further eased restrictions on ownership for the foreign-born Rupert.
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    12/03/09

    @Tremonius: I take your word for it. I'd always heard that the Star-Telegram was a more enlightened paper. True?
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    Image of Spaghetti Cat Spaghetti Cat
    12/03/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: It is- and as a working (for the moment) journalist- this is the kind of thing that both nauseates and scares the shit out of me.

    Aside from the "favors for favors" ickiness associated with a policy move of this sort, what really makes my skin crawl is the thought of having to work hand in hand with sales staff.

    If the ones at my pub are any indication of the norm- these people are fucking retards with no scruples whose only concern is their commission. Not a good alliance for anyone who wishes to keep integrity in their newsroom.
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    12/03/09

    @Spaghetti Cat: As a sales guy and publisher, I thank you.
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    12/04/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: I'm going to ask my brother next time we talk about how the Ft Worth paper is today. I never had much experience with it way back when.

    It is truly amazing how isolated we all were in the fifties out there on that lonesome prairie. I can remember hitching rides to Big D for Rolling Stone and Beat literature at the Doubleday bookshop on Elm or one of them. I had to go nearly a hundred miles as the road runs to find anything not hewing to the company line.

    The brightest of us went away to school, and came back, and we marveled. I remember conversations with two buddies of that hierarchy, and neither one of them could tell what exactly it meant to be "conservative" or "liberal." It's like a concept of feathered flying critters to a mob of penguins.
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    12/04/09

    @Spaghetti Cat: Okay, distinguish for us other voices from other rooms. Like ... esteemed medical research schools which take contributions from interested parties like the drug and tobacco industry. Doctors prescribing ever more "tests" utilizing facilities in which they hold investments. Or, for that matter, the general and universal refusal of any news business to cite the number one factor in the Repugnant party: deficient or demented mental capacity.
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    Image of Spaghetti Cat Spaghetti Cat
    12/04/09

    @Tremonius: Are you asking me to distinguish who among this example is behaving with integrity? Or how can one behave with integrity when one's resources are tied to another industry with specific interests of its own?

    If yes- I see your point. It is difficult to keep integrity when the almighty dollar is what makes the world go 'round. How is this to be avoided? Good question.

    As for the refusal of most media organizations to finger the Republican party as mentally deficient, etc- I'd hope it doesn't take a media personality, article or punditry of any kind to point out what is patently obvious anytime one of these "demented" individuals opens their mouth. I mean- most of these motherfuckers say it loud and plain themselves anytime they speak in public.

    And in the interest of being truthful, the media would also be obligated to point out that a good number of Democrats are substantially challenged as well- see: concessions re: Stupak/Pitts amendment.

    As is the case in most management structures, the unimaginative and ineffective rise to the top, and everyone else is left to make the best of it. And that's the unfortunate state of affairs these days from newsrooms trying to survive to the top of the American legislature.
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    Image of paxcincinnatus paxcincinnatus
    12/03/09

    In reply to National Geographic Adventure Folds
    You know, I've always been ambivalent toward Town & Country. . . but now that their showing some skin - now I am totally on board.
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    Image of Cheap Shot Cheap Shot
    11/30/09

    In reply to Giant Magazine Folds (Officially)
    About time. I worked there before it became a black magazine.
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    Image of AndPreciousLittleofThat AndPreciousLittleofThat
    11/30/09

    @Cheap Shot: Back in the good ol' days, when it was a quarterly porno mag devoted to large-sized people?
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    Image of Cheap Shot Cheap Shot
    11/30/09

    @AndPreciousLittleofThat: hahaha!
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    Image of hannapdx hannapdx
    11/24/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Folding InStyle Weddings
    Oh no! I'm getting married in 2011, how will I ever know how to plan my own wedding without the help of overpriced wedding mags?!!!
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    Image of 2Winners 2Winners
    11/24/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Folding InStyle Weddings
    This is actually great for all celebrity brides. Haven't we all heard of the InStyle Weddings Curse? (Jennifer Morrison from "House," I'm looking in your direction)
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    Image of sarrible sarrible
    11/24/09

    @2Winners: Luckily, Christina Hendricks just killed the magazine, not her own relationship.
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    Image of Perhaps Not Perhaps Not
    11/24/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Folding InStyle Weddings
    In a related story, jeepers h. christmas Christina Hendricks is so unbelievably hot I'm afraid my monitor is going to melt and fuse with me desk.
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    Image of manchops manchops
    11/24/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Folding InStyle Weddings
    more and more reasons to LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE!
    I mean, seriously! Start submitting the mag titles now, this could SAVE the whole industry!
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    Image of rmric0.wedding.photographer.and.manny rmric0.wedding.photographer.and.manny
    11/24/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Folding InStyle Weddings
    I really don't understand how you couldn't make money on a bridal magazine. Your readers only get them for a year (unless they've gone way overboard) and then you can start recycling content (with some new pictures and up to date references). The only work to be done is selling ad space.
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    Image of manchops manchops
    11/24/09

    @rmric0.wedding.photographer.and.manny: because the demo is so directly targeted (as in: I just got proposed to! I need to plan a huge wedding! Where do I start? What do I do?) the advertising in these mags was huge! and at top rates. Sorta like a mag for people who just won a million dollars and had never heard of a retail store.
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    Image of ArtfulSlinger ArtfulSlinger
    11/24/09

    @manchops: Shouldn't then the magazine just become more targeted in region? So the ads could coordinate with the content, like New York Mag. You do a few editions, have local affiliates, etc.

    Im here all week Time Inc, whatever you need from me.
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    Image of manchops manchops
    11/24/09

    @ArtfulSlinger: You're right, and that's probably what's happening. Local mags and newspapers always do special wedding supplements and are teaming with all those tuxedo rental, caterer kinda ads. Face it, the big glossy wedding mags were basic nuptial porn. Hard to afford these days...
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    Image of ArtfulSlinger ArtfulSlinger
    11/24/09

    @manchops: Not only that not at all helpful compared to the blogs. There are hundreds of blogs just focused on printed collateral, let alone dresses, decor, rings, etc.
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    Image of manchops manchops
    11/24/09

    @ArtfulSlinger: basically the demo got younger, like all the demos, and use the internet. I've been in magazines for a dozen years and could never believe how they just sat back and let this happen.
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    Image of sweetpickles sweetpickles
    11/24/09

    In reply to Time Inc. Folding InStyle Weddings
    Another piece of the straight marriage industrial complex's soul: ripped to shreds! Now our lady partners will have to consult gay blogs to see which napkins are hot this season.
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11/09/09

    In reply to Metropolitan Home Folding
    See, the shelter blogs have to get their images somewhere. It can't all be photos of their vintage sock monkeys on their reproduction Scandinavian sideboards. (That's what she said.) So what happens now, that most of the shelter magazines are relics or are heading in that direction? #magazines
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    Image of gladys_kravitz gladys_kravitz
    11/09/09

    @RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck: Design Sponge has made a living off sock monkeys and faux Scandinavian sideboards. And Etsy-purchased pillows. She doesn't repost too much from the shelter mags.

    Is anyone liking Lonny? (www.lonnymag.com) They've reincarnated Domino and it looks great, I just wish I could have it in real old school paper magazine form. I guess all good porn is now on-line. #magazines
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    Image of RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck RodetheTrolleywithStanwyck
    11/09/09

    @gladys_kravitz: You're right, but often comes up for at least one or two posts a day. Same for AT. (And Grace @ Design Sponge got her start at H&G, I believe.)

    I am a bit biased--I'm a decor writer, and its tough to see the niche fall.

    Don't like Lonny...content is good, but hate the faux-mag format. #magazines
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    Image of gladys_kravitz gladys_kravitz
    11/09/09

    In reply to Metropolitan Home Folding
    I am literally sitting here with my mouth open. First Conde takes my Domino and now HFMUS pulls this on me? My home decorating porn stash is now empty. What happened to the rumor of shutting Elle Decor? please tell me the profile raising of Margaret Russell on HGTV didn't play into this. Met Home was by far the superior book, in my opinion. #magazines
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    Image of joeyjoey73 joeyjoey73
    11/09/09

    In reply to Metropolitan Home Folding
    This is sickening. There is just no crossover between Elle Decor and Met Home. Met Home is for lovers and appreciators of Modern Design and its aesthetic. Elle Decor is for a bunch of tasteless sorority girls that think its fun to decorate rooms in contrasting plaids and florals.

    I can't take much more of this. All my touchstone mags (Gourmet, Met Home, Cargo) are getting cut loose. Obviously media companies need to dumb it down and go lowest common denominator in order to preserve profit but pretty soon, all we'll be left with is pedestrian fare (Rachel Ray, Food Network Mag, etc) with little to no aspirational message. #magazines
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