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StabbyRipStabStab
11/06/09

In reply to Ft. Hood Shooter Previously Had Concealed Handgun Permit
What the fuck does this have to do with anything? You don't need a concealed carry permit to purchase a weapon, nor are you allowed to carry personal weapons on base. The only time anyone has any weapons is when they draw them from the armory and are either training or under arms. The fact that he applied for the permit means nothing other than pointing out that he was a law-abiding citizen at one point. #nidalmalikhasan
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matthieuK
11/06/09

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I realize media outlets need to write savvy, and enticing headlines to get a readership, but writing out headlines that will promote even more fear and hate seems completely pointless. The man is now an automatic crazy terrorist, and now he previously had a gun! Oh no! #nidalmalikhasan
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lostarchitect
11/06/09

@matthieuK: This. #nidalmalikhasan
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John Cook
11/06/09

@matthieuK: You really think "Ft. Hood Shooter Previously Had Concealed Handgun Permit" is a savvy, enticing headline? It's a rather dry recitation of a fact. Like I said--something to add to the data pile. #nidalmalikhasan
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matthieuK
11/06/09

@John Cook: I never actually stated that the headline was savvy or enticing but that's what draws a readership. #nidalmalikhasan
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Jes St.Lawrence
11/06/09

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So what? According to his family, he wasn't even very religious until 1998. According to eyewitness reports of what he said when he opened fire, that seems to be much more relevant to the incident. #nidalmalikhasan
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Wenceslaus
11/06/09

In reply to Ft. Hood Shooter Previously Had Concealed Handgun Permit
So?

For all you gun haters out there, I'd like to point out that it was a woman with a gun that stopped Hasan's rampage, and if the others present at the scene had been carrying guns (which are generally not carried by soldiers on base) it'd likely have been stopped sooner.

But you know, guns kill people, like how spoons make me fat. #nidalmalikhasan
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DTurkin
11/06/09

@Wenceslaus: Whaaa? If Hasan didn't have a gun then nobody would have been shot!

Still, being on an army base I'm sure getting hold of any type of gun can't be all that hard. #nidalmalikhasan
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Benamed
11/06/09

@Wenceslaus: The woman was a cop. Reasonable people think cops should be allowed to carry guns.

Your point about spoons is perfect, though. Nothing to disagree with there. #nidalmalikhasan
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topsy
11/06/09

@Wenceslaus: I don't hate guns. I hate people who are so enthralled by their 'piece' that they don't realize or care what a danger it is to a civilized society. #nidalmalikhasan
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Airvault
11/06/09

@Wenceslaus: I always thought eating spoons would lead to nothing but blood poisoning. #nidalmalikhasan
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BadUncle
11/06/09

@DTurkin: FWIW, guns and ammunition on military bases are more secure than they are on the streets of Texas. #nidalmalikhasan
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fuckingoldman
11/06/09

@Wenceslaus: I knew it was the spoons! Good comment, but it will still be lost on the people that don't think any of us should own guns. #nidalmalikhasan
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intime
11/06/09

@Wenceslaus: The woman with the gun was a police officer. It's her job to protect us from nut cases like Hasan and she did the best that she could to do so. It has been reported that some of those wounded at the base were wounded by "friendly fire" because very quickly lots of people with guns reported to the scene and started firing. And that's exactly what would have happened if everyone at the scene had a gun and pulled it out and started firing.

Also, guns are more deadly than any other weapon, especially automatics. How else could 43 people be shot in what must have been less than five minutes? How far do you think Hasan would've gotten in that room full of strong, fit soldiers ready to be deployed if he had knife? He would've been down in seconds, with minimal casulaties. #nidalmalikhasan
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intime
11/06/09

@fuckingoldman: I don't believe that no one should be able to own guns. I don't have any objection to hunters owning guns or people owning them for target shooting. I think it would be smart to require that guns purchased for those purposes be properly stored. I don't have any objection to requiring guns that are purchased for that purpose to be stored at gun clubs.

I do have an objection to guns being sold to any nut case who wants one for any reason. I have objections to people leaving them lying around the house so that their kids can get hold of them and commit all kinds of mayhem. Around here all kinds of kids have guns and I don't think they bought them legally at the local Wal*Mart or applied for a concealed carry license. #nidalmalikhasan
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fuckingoldman
11/06/09

@intime: You miss the whole point of the Second Amendment, but that doesn't surprise me. Please read the Bill of Rights. You fail to mention personal protection as a viable reason for gun ownership, the police aren't always there when you need them. Bottom line, it doesn't matter what you think or how you feel, we are given the right to own guns in the Constitution.

Any idiot who leaves a gun laying around so a kid can play with it should be locked up for a long time. They should be locked up for not teaching their kids proper firearms safety. I grew up in a house with more guns than you could count, but I never would have thought of playing with one. It sounds like the kids around you all got their guns illegally, which should show you that stricter gun laws won't keep guns out of the hands of criminals. #nidalmalikhasan
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Cannot Find Server
11/06/09

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It's routine for everyone to apply for, and receive, concealed carry permits in Virginia.

The state loosened restrictions on permits in 1995 or 1996 so that you didn't even need to specify a reason for applying for one. As far as the gun lobby (and, consequently, the Republican legislature and noted asshole Gov. George Allen) was concerned, the 2nd amendment meant you didn't need a reason. The number of permits issued skyrocketed.
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Schadenfriend
11/06/09

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I have a concealed handgun permit. I guess I need to be locked up now, lest I do something crazy in 13 years. #nidalmalikhasan
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intime
11/06/09

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Yes, and of course we all know that if all citizens carried guns like Dr. Hasan did that we'd all be sooooooooo much safer.

Not. #nidalmalikhasan
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topsy
11/06/09

@intime: The argument for the concealed weapon is that when some crazy pulls a gun on a crowd that a trusty gun holder will pull their piece out of whatever hiding place, blow the crazy away and save the day. This guy was on a MILITARY BASE and manged to take trained soldiers by surprise. Congratulations gun lobby! #nidalmalikhasan
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albo
11/06/09

@intime: well, someone could have shot him before the police officer did. that could have saved even more lives. #nidalmalikhasan
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intime
11/06/09

@topsy: Soldiers don't carry their weapons on a US military base. But, there were lots of military police and other security people around. As a result they now think that some of those who were wounded were wounded by "friendly fire." #nidalmalikhasan
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intime
11/06/09

@albo: It is against regulations on a US military base for soldiers to carry their weapons - concealed or not. When questioned about that last night the General in charge of the base said: "This is our home. We do not carry our weapons on base." #nidalmalikhasan
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topsy
11/06/09

@intime: Looks like soldiers have more sense than a lot of gun owners. #nidalmalikhasan
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lostarchitect
11/06/09

@topsy: Almost by definition. The few military people I know are incredibly safety conscious when it comes to weapons, unlike a lot of other gun owners. (note: not that all or even most gun owners are unsafe.) #nidalmalikhasan
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intime
11/06/09

@topsy That's what I thought when I heard the General say that. #nidalmalikhasan
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intime
11/06/09

@albo: I did not promote this comment. I don't know how that happened. #nidalmalikhasan
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lostarchitect
11/06/09

@intime: If you promote or reply to someone that responded to it, it promotes all the comments up the chain. #nidalmalikhasan
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CaligulaSanchez
10/23/09

In reply to Weezy Kid in Skeezy Bid
If the state of New York really wanted to punish Weezy, they'd send him back to Gringotts so he could go back to guarding vaults LIKE HE'S SUPPOSED TO. #lilwayne
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m4ximusprim3
10/23/09

@CaligulaSanchez: Whatever you do in prison, DON'T GIVE HIM A SOCK! #lilwayne
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Botswana Meat Commission FC
10/23/09

In reply to Weezy Kid in Skeezy Bid
Great. Now what will I have to listen to? Other than the approximately 197 mixtapes he was on last year... #lilwayne
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goetz
10/23/09

In reply to Weezy Kid in Skeezy Bid
Are the tears for real, or is this his first trip? #lilwayne
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krasny
09/17/09

In reply to Have Gun, Will Travel Could be Horrific Reality
Horrifying? I hope you do a followup post saying how wrong you are. Also, you might want to mention that you could do this before 2004. Did you really avoid Amtrak back then?

There is really no reason NOT to support this. Give me one scenario where this could turn out bad.
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skahammer
09/18/09

@krasny: Unloaded, locked guns placed on board a crowded commuter train are retrieved, unlocked, loaded, and used to hold hostage hundreds of commuters at rush hour, with one passenger executed by multiple gunshots every ten minutes in full view of television cameras, until the U.S. government agrees to withdraw all forces from the Arabian peninsula, cease all drone aircraft flights from airbases in Central Asia, and withdraw loan guarantees to Israel that in effect help to extend credit to Israeli settlers in the West Bank.
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WenonaKolling
09/17/09

In reply to Have Gun, Will Travel Could be Horrific Reality
If any one did a bit of searching on this, they would find that all weapons would be locked up in storage on the train. Inaccessible to the owner or others. Same way hunters travel with hunting weapons on planes.
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SpicyMeatball
09/17/09

In reply to Have Gun, Will Travel Could be Horrific Reality
Considering there is zero security on Amtrak trains as it is, I am a little confused as to why this would somehow be more dangerous? Seems a wee bit of the overreaction. If someone wanted to carry a gun on an Amtrak train these days, there would be nothing stopping them.
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Rendus
09/17/09

In reply to Have Gun, Will Travel Could be Horrific Reality
You can currently check unloaded guns in a locked container on aircraft. It's not as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. But then again, people are all about making big deals out of nothing these days.
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Cynical Media Bitch
09/17/09

@Rendus: Actually, making a big deal out of nothing is the raison d'être of this site.
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BadUncle
09/17/09

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I hope this returns us all to the Golden Age of train robberies. I'll be in the stage coach.
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