I think Matty has at least one more Bourne in him if they can come up with a decent post-Ultimatum script. Agree that Pine is tasty boy, but not bournable or even clancyesque. Anyway, who the hell wants to see Tom Clancy's tired old shit (again)--that well is drier than the vodka martini in my non-typing hand. Why not explore le Carre's or Michael Connelly's extensive oeuvre a bit more?
We were hoping that Milk, with its message of political empowerment and a movement coming into its own, would be the start of the dear director's second act.
Oh yeah. We totally needed the fucking Gus Van Sant to deliver us that message. I haven't even seen Milk, precisely because I keep hearing about this "message", and I am pretty sure I've already received, processed and understood it a long time ago.
Don't listen to 'em, Gus. These people are only interested in movies with Dr. McSteamy and the Noxzema girl. Some of us have the same concerns as you. Next thing you know they'll tell David Lynch to start making films with linear plots "because even Godard reached the end of nonsense and decided to come back."
@StonedAndDethroned: I makes sense to put Gus Van Sant in the same graph as Godard. They've both made mainly movies that you love in your teens/early 20s but become unbearable to watch once you hit 25. David Lynch's oeuvre, on the other hand, just gets better as you age. He makes me feel like I'm a fine wine.
Er, I loved "Paranoid Park." I must be an indie hipster poseur trust fund baby. And who is this "we" who loved "Good Will Hunting?" That movie was insufferable shit about the working class of Boston by a couple of slumming rich kids who grew out of their screenwriting aspirations but quick.
How about he finally makes the BioPic about his late brother's awesome 70's southern rock band that suffered a fucking catastrophe when the band's place went down in a horrible crash -- thus ending the 70's!Is the pain still too much to bear?
I will never forget watching "Last Days" and after 7 1/2 hours of watching the nothingness that was occuring, realizing only 15 minutes had passed. Gus Van Sant was able to stop time with that movie, that is how much of a crapper it was.
@Ladies and Gentlemen-Mr. Burt Bacharach: I went to a screening of it with a friend who, half an hour into it, whispered to me, "If he doesn't shoot himself within the next 5 minutes I'm going to have to kill him."
Still not as excruciating as "Brown Bunny," though. That one seemed to last 4 months, 3 weeks and 2 days.
@Nic Fit: I remember Elephant rocking my boat at the time. It came out during an exceptionally conservative era in American history and talked about a topic and an age group that the media had totally blacked out at that point in favor of patriotism and foreign things. Now it might seem staid and old hat, but yeah, at the time, it was something of a breath of long, quiet, desolate air.
Wow, this post is absolutely ridiculous. You're way out of your depth here, kiddo.
There are many of us who think Gus Van Sant's last four or five films--ELEPHANT, LAST DAYS (not about teenage boys), PARANOID PARK, GERRY (not about teenage boys), among them--are his very best.
Good Will Hunting and To Die For?
Some of us see these as low points.
Gawker's desperate struggle to cloak populist bait in hip exasperation continues. I know, Brian, it's just so annoying how Gus Van Sant doesn't make movies you like. One of the very few American directors who fights to make films on his own terms--and one of the only directors anywhere who gives a shit about formal experimentation--and you mock him. Jesus.
What's Natasha VC's take? Was MILK Gus van Sant's "pool movie"?
Mockity mockity mock mock. Just shut the fuck up, and stick to what you know. Hint: you don't know what movies I like.
@Balsa Wood: Very true, I was just about to post the same thing. Good Will Hunting is pretty much cloying, sentimental crap, while Paranoid Park, Gerry, Elephant, and Last Days are some of the most creative and interesting movies of the past decade.
@Balsa Wood: I don't think you need to be an arse about it. You can state your opinion without all the rude.
I loved Elephant but Gerry made me want to open my wrists.
@Macloserboy: We're supposed to deduce that something is of quality because "millions and billions" of people saw it? So, does that make Titanic less of a piece of crap, or Transformers 1 & 2? Your argument is specious.
@Macloserboy: Let the millions enjoy the next Transformers movie or GI Joe, they deserve it. In fact I'd prefer it if they did and stayed the f away from van Sant flicks. They tend to reactively mumble at visual and audio metaphors they don't understand and it is distracting for me.
Also; We're not really going to use popularity as a gauge of quality, are we?
@toshiro_mifune: "We're not really going to use popularity as a gauge of quality, are we?"
Well stated. "Popularity as a gauge of quality" is the kind of double-think that goes on all over the place now. If a movie tanks, then it must be bad! If a movie splits audiences, then it must be bad! If a movie bores your friend, then it must be bad!
But then blockbusters are all crap too.
The tenet is now, "All movies are bad. Just read our whip-smart commentary."
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Oh yeah. We totally needed the fucking Gus Van Sant to deliver us that message. I haven't even seen Milk, precisely because I keep hearing about this "message", and I am pretty sure I've already received, processed and understood it a long time ago.
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LORD KNOWS THIS BIRD CANNOT FUCKING CHANGE!
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That's what I am talking about. The man is a chameleon!
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Still not as excruciating as "Brown Bunny," though. That one seemed to last 4 months, 3 weeks and 2 days.
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There are many of us who think Gus Van Sant's last four or five films--ELEPHANT, LAST DAYS (not about teenage boys), PARANOID PARK, GERRY (not about teenage boys), among them--are his very best.
Good Will Hunting and To Die For?
Some of us see these as low points.
Gawker's desperate struggle to cloak populist bait in hip exasperation continues. I know, Brian, it's just so annoying how Gus Van Sant doesn't make movies you like. One of the very few American directors who fights to make films on his own terms--and one of the only directors anywhere who gives a shit about formal experimentation--and you mock him. Jesus.
What's Natasha VC's take? Was MILK Gus van Sant's "pool movie"?
Mockity mockity mock mock. Just shut the fuck up, and stick to what you know. Hint: you don't know what movies I like.
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Is that what you meant?
Sorry: IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT?!?!
Yeah, I liked Elephant. Me and the jury at Cannes. And thousands and thousands of other people. I wasn't alone.
To answer your question, I am not high, and I am smarter than you.
So...anything else?
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I loved Elephant but Gerry made me want to open my wrists.
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An "arse" would phrase his opinion this way:
"But who out there suffered through Elephant, Paranoid Park, Gerry and Last Days?"
Twisting a personal opinion into a popular opinion. Bad, lazy writing.
I'm fighting rude with rude. Forgive me.
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A fact that, I'm sure, keeps Van Sant up at night.
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Also; We're not really going to use popularity as a gauge of quality, are we?
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Well stated. "Popularity as a gauge of quality" is the kind of double-think that goes on all over the place now. If a movie tanks, then it must be bad! If a movie splits audiences, then it must be bad! If a movie bores your friend, then it must be bad!
But then blockbusters are all crap too.
The tenet is now, "All movies are bad. Just read our whip-smart commentary."
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Sadly, no, I'm not Gus Van Sant. I just think he's a great artist.
Should I not say that? Would that make you happier?
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In any case, sorry to get your panties in a bunch.
Lesson: learned.