I think there’s a problem with the picture. It’s all black. Are there people there? I’m terrified to know what they want or what caused them to sink to this level! Make yourself appear at once!
I think Brian has hit on something. The Pink Comment Perpetual Motion Machine. I started out thinking it was funny, but now--who knows? This may be the answer to the energy crisis, if we can somehow harness its awesome power. Just lob a condescending observation towards Australia and hook a dynamo to the neverending flood of denials that Australians take criticism too seriously.
@RollsRoyceRevenge: Australians take criticism too seriously? You could be right. Or you could be talking shite, direct from Merka-Love-It-Or-Leave-It. Nice of you to offer a choice -- I think I'll leave it. Kthxbai.
To all the USAians hearing from some of my countrymen about how Australia isn't racist: you should really do some digging and ask Aboriginal Australians, and other non-white people in Australia, what they think of the matter. To start with, Stan Grant, an indigenous Australian now working for CNN:
Kamahl, a dark-skinned Malaysian singer who used to be a regular on the show we're talking about back before it got axed a decade ago (this was a revival special) has also come out and said he was constantly the butt of racist jokes while on the show.
Slightly different opinions from the complacent, "we're not racist and you need a sense of humour, you moron" comments coming from too many white Australians.
I've got a serious question and I would just like an intelligent answer (ie please don't be lame and make stupid references to vegemite or bridges to Auckland).
Question: Is it the actual BLACK FACE that was insulting, or was it the whole act? If the guys had worn light brown face paint to send-up the Jackson 5 would that have been OK? If not, does that mean that no Caucasian, Asian, European, Middle Eastener can ever portray an African American for any reason unless they use their own skin colour?
Is it OK to portray African Americans as long as you don't have any paint on your face at all?
Is it OK to portray African Americans as long as you're not doing it in a spoof or skit?
I am confused - it must be the actual black face that is insulting - not the send-up itself.
So, could that be re-done with light brown face paint and be OK?
@fvandyke: In my opinion, it is perfectly possible for a non-African performer to portray the Jacksons (or any other given African or African-American performer) as long as the point of the homage (or target of the satire) is the actual performance--as opposed to the fact that: "hey, they're black."
@RollsRoyceRevenge: Well thats just the issue. The point of the act WASN'T that they were black, they were simply doing a performance.
The thing is, unless you know about Australian culture and humour, you cant argue with this because your culture isn't the target audience of this skit.
The reason they wouldn't do it in America is because in America they WOULD offend people (which has become even more evident). However, in Australia, this is hardly offensive. It is aimed at an Australian audience, not an American audience.
America has no right to dictate to us how we should view our humour, just like we have no right to dictate to Americans that Americans should find this skit funny.
@fvandyke: Funny, I asked exactly the same questions, but in a rather more satirical manner. My bad, I forgot Americans don't do satire. Next time I'll be sure to make my comments appropriately obsequious.
@Vicki Parslow Stafford: Great! While doing so, would you mind wearing a clown nose, jumping up and down and screaming "MY CONVICT CORNHOLE CRAVES KOALA COCK"? There's a lot of narrow-minded smug ockers on this thread and any thing you can do to stand out would be appreciated.
@Glen Chatfield: Funny thing--this website is an instance of New York humour. Here we pelt stupid people from provincial hellholes with vicious insults. Obviously it's not aimed at an Australian audience. And if it offends you, don't read it.
And how would you know what New Yorkers are like? The sign at the airport reading "no shirt, no shoes, no service" pretty much cuts you out of the picture.
@RollsRoyceRevenge: Ever heard of cultural imperialism? How could anyone in the rest of the world NOT know what New Yorkers are like (more's the pity).
@Vicki Parslow Stafford: Of course we've heard of cultural imperialism. Although in the case of Australia, it's more like cultural emergency air-drops. Remove America from the equation and the entirety of Australia's non-Aboriginal culture dwindles to Romper Stomper, the Wiggles, and that fucking song about a backpack.
@RollsRoyceRevenge: That's actually pretty funny. Well done you! Back in my 70s student days, we used to joke that the US was so pissed off that Australia was the only country in the world not getting foreign aid from them that they had to start sending their fucking citizens.
Oh, and by the way--for all the Aussies who have chimed in about Harry's appearance on Chris Rock--if you can't tell the differance between a skit written by an African American as satire and a bunch of clowns doing golliwog humor you really are thicker than pigshit.
Oh, who cares.
How's that bridge between Sydney and Auckland coming along? Do you all have pet kangaroos? Did you know that anyone getting off a plane in New York wearing a Wiggles T-shirt is loaded into a catapult and bounced off the top of the Citibank Building?
@RollsRoyceRevenge: I LOVE the one about the Auckland/Sydney bridge! Especially when people ask you from the car, as if they're on their way for a day trip, they just can't quite find it...
"My new 220-page graphic novel "Oswald Ocker the Alcoholic Singlet-Wearing Wife-Beating Western Suburb-Dwelling Convict-Trash Twat Sucks Off His Pet Platypus" should be completed by next Tuesday. It should go down a treat in Australia, as I am sure you all understand that Americans have a different sense of humor and anyway, mate, we're all just 'avin' a larf"
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Kamahl, a dark-skinned Malaysian singer who used to be a regular on the show we're talking about back before it got axed a decade ago (this was a revival special) has also come out and said he was constantly the butt of racist jokes while on the show.
[www.news.com.au]
Slightly different opinions from the complacent, "we're not racist and you need a sense of humour, you moron" comments coming from too many white Australians.
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Question: Is it the actual BLACK FACE that was insulting, or was it the whole act? If the guys had worn light brown face paint to send-up the Jackson 5 would that have been OK? If not, does that mean that no Caucasian, Asian, European, Middle Eastener can ever portray an African American for any reason unless they use their own skin colour?
Is it OK to portray African Americans as long as you don't have any paint on your face at all?
Is it OK to portray African Americans as long as you're not doing it in a spoof or skit?
I am confused - it must be the actual black face that is insulting - not the send-up itself.
So, could that be re-done with light brown face paint and be OK?
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So, yes, I think that would be the case.
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The thing is, unless you know about Australian culture and humour, you cant argue with this because your culture isn't the target audience of this skit.
The reason they wouldn't do it in America is because in America they WOULD offend people (which has become even more evident). However, in Australia, this is hardly offensive. It is aimed at an Australian audience, not an American audience.
America has no right to dictate to us how we should view our humour, just like we have no right to dictate to Americans that Americans should find this skit funny.
If it offends you, don't watch it.
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And how would you know what New Yorkers are like? The sign at the airport reading "no shirt, no shoes, no service" pretty much cuts you out of the picture.
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Oh, who cares.
How's that bridge between Sydney and Auckland coming along? Do you all have pet kangaroos? Did you know that anyone getting off a plane in New York wearing a Wiggles T-shirt is loaded into a catapult and bounced off the top of the Citibank Building?
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"My new 220-page graphic novel "Oswald Ocker the Alcoholic Singlet-Wearing Wife-Beating Western Suburb-Dwelling Convict-Trash Twat Sucks Off His Pet Platypus" should be completed by next Tuesday. It should go down a treat in Australia, as I am sure you all understand that Americans have a different sense of humor and anyway, mate, we're all just 'avin' a larf"
Sorry mate, that was a best seller years ago.
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It's called "The Sydney Morning Herald."