Wow. Such vitriol. Such hate. Silverman is an "awful person." Seriously? On what grounds? He may make shitty TV, but so do ALL the major networks. He has made some great TV too, including the US Office.
He didn't greenlight Merlin, btw. Though I'm sure he approved its purchase from the UK (who "greenlit" it).
I love how everyone loves shitting on Silverman when they dont have an ounce of his success, or his (no one can argue with) salesman skills or eye for talent.
@jessedir: Eight words: "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here." Or may just two: Spencer & Heidi. That's enough for me to conclude he's an awful person, or at least a dreadful television executive.
Oh, and then there's the travesty of Leno on 5 nights a week in what ought to be the slot for NBC's best, most innovative programming.
@lucylooo: Important things to note about Merlin: It just happens to be produced by Shine, the production company owned by Elisabeth Murdoch, which paid Ben $250 million for his old production company Reveille.
She's hot and opinionated. What do you want, a politically-correct vegetable instead?
She spoke her mind, not that she had anything against gays. She didn't wish any gay dead, or lynched, and didn't hate any gay. she only said she was against gay marriage. Because it's... funny.
Can't get over that? Then fuck you, and your gay self-discrimination sense.
You blame her for posing nude invoking by the bible? Fuck you again, she's not the hypocrite, you are. She did what she felt like - going nude, you're judging her for that by pursuing a principle that you are not observant of, and a logic that is the opposite of your supposedly tolerance spirit.
@newyorkez: Banned for "Because... it's funny." and "gay self=discrimination sense", mostly because I have no idea what you're talking about and don't think you do either.
I hope Miss Prejean's silicone implants leak profusely, causing her great illness and discomfort, and I hope her apologists are all ripped off by Mormon-led fake charities trying to capitalize on her distress. No offense.
So she's totes cool to wish all the gay people were dead.
Funny... I don't recall her saying that, Richard.
You're rapidly becoming my least favourite contributor. I have little to no time for this kind of hysterical nonsense. I almost feel bad for you that you can't seem to whip up enough hysteria and outrage while simply reporting what happened, as opposed to just... well, as opposed to just making shit up.
I also feel bad that you don't seem to realize that free speech applies not just to the ideas that you or I espouse and agree with, but to any and all ideas.
I realize that this will likely earn me a blistering comment from you about how I'm an apologist for her, or that I somehow agree with her or some such other fiction. I'll simply point you to a post I made in another Prejean post here today and that's all I'll say about it for now.
Frankly, Richard, if I wanted this kind of polemic, hystrionic, fictional hysteria there are plenty of other places on the net I could go. Maybe I'll just stop reading any and all of your posts instead. It might save us both some trouble.
After all... you have every right to your opinions, even if I don't share them.
You're certainly free to call her whatever you like.
However, I'm not sure she said she hates gays. I'm pretty sure she never said she wishes they were all dead.
But the actual FACTS of what happened aren't good enough for you, are they? It's not enough that you have to call her an asshole (which is fine, by the way, I have no problem with her being called on her ignorant bullshit), you have to make shit up about her. You have to put words in her mouth to make her seem like MORE of an asshole, because you're not happy with her already shitty behaviour. It's not "shitty" enough for you. You have your target and now you're going to pillory her as much as you possibly can, even if you have to just make shit up to do it.
And then, to top it all off, you can't seem to deal with the fact that she's absolutely entitled to believe whatever she goddam well pleases and are throwing a hissy fit over the fact that you have to live in a country that protects her speech as much as yours and can't seem to stop making snide remarks about it.
@Werrick: I don't begrudge her her free speech, she can say whatever the hell she wants. But I can also disagree with it and call it what it is--ignorant bigoted bullshit based on ancient, outmoded fairy tales--all I want.
And as for the "putting words in her mouth" and "making things up", hi my name is Richard and I write for Gawker. I am not a reporter, I am a humor writer who is covering a very, very silly topic. Forgive me for making a joke.
@Richard Lawson: But I can also disagree with it and call it what it is--ignorant bigoted bullshit based on ancient, outmoded fairy tales--all I want.
By no means would I ever argue with that. You're certainly free to do so, and I'll help.
I guess I don't see the joke, Richard. To be quite honest, most of the articles you've written about this topic read more like a ranting temper tantrum than anything else.
I'm going to assume that the failure is mine and that I just didn't "get it".
@Werrick: she's absolutely entitled to believe whatever she goddam well pleases and are throwing a hissy fit over the fact that you have to live in a country that protects her speech as much as yours and can't seem to stop making snide remarks about it.
I don't think Carrie Prejean needs you to come defend her right to free speech. She was the one whose actions were recently validated, despite the fact that her opinions repress an entire group of people's rights. I might feel inclined to throw a "hissy fit" (beautiful choice of words..) or make a few "snide remarks" if someone was coming out and saying ignorant bullshit things that affected my life and well being.
@if_i_only_had_a_heart: Thanks for putting a picture of an erect Donald Trump, wearing full suit and tie up top and only dark socks and dress shoes below the belt, in my mind.
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Was he high?
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He didn't greenlight Merlin, btw. Though I'm sure he approved its purchase from the UK (who "greenlit" it).
I love how everyone loves shitting on Silverman when they dont have an ounce of his success, or his (no one can argue with) salesman skills or eye for talent.
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Oh, and then there's the travesty of Leno on 5 nights a week in what ought to be the slot for NBC's best, most innovative programming.
But really, Spencer & Heidi were enough for me.
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She spoke her mind, not that she had anything against gays. She didn't wish any gay dead, or lynched, and didn't hate any gay. she only said she was against gay marriage. Because it's... funny.
Can't get over that? Then fuck you, and your gay self-discrimination sense.
You blame her for posing nude invoking by the bible? Fuck you again, she's not the hypocrite, you are. She did what she felt like - going nude, you're judging her for that by pursuing a principle that you are not observant of, and a logic that is the opposite of your supposedly tolerance spirit.
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if she was even hot, i'd give you points here but jesus raise your standards.
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Funny... I don't recall her saying that, Richard.
You're rapidly becoming my least favourite contributor. I have little to no time for this kind of hysterical nonsense. I almost feel bad for you that you can't seem to whip up enough hysteria and outrage while simply reporting what happened, as opposed to just... well, as opposed to just making shit up.
I also feel bad that you don't seem to realize that free speech applies not just to the ideas that you or I espouse and agree with, but to any and all ideas.
I realize that this will likely earn me a blistering comment from you about how I'm an apologist for her, or that I somehow agree with her or some such other fiction. I'll simply point you to a post I made in another Prejean post here today and that's all I'll say about it for now.
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Frankly, Richard, if I wanted this kind of polemic, hystrionic, fictional hysteria there are plenty of other places on the net I could go. Maybe I'll just stop reading any and all of your posts instead. It might save us both some trouble.
After all... you have every right to your opinions, even if I don't share them.
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It certainly doesn't protect you from being called an asshole for something you said, freely.
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You're certainly free to call her whatever you like.
However, I'm not sure she said she hates gays. I'm pretty sure she never said she wishes they were all dead.
But the actual FACTS of what happened aren't good enough for you, are they? It's not enough that you have to call her an asshole (which is fine, by the way, I have no problem with her being called on her ignorant bullshit), you have to make shit up about her. You have to put words in her mouth to make her seem like MORE of an asshole, because you're not happy with her already shitty behaviour. It's not "shitty" enough for you. You have your target and now you're going to pillory her as much as you possibly can, even if you have to just make shit up to do it.
And then, to top it all off, you can't seem to deal with the fact that she's absolutely entitled to believe whatever she goddam well pleases and are throwing a hissy fit over the fact that you have to live in a country that protects her speech as much as yours and can't seem to stop making snide remarks about it.
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And as for the "putting words in her mouth" and "making things up", hi my name is Richard and I write for Gawker. I am not a reporter, I am a humor writer who is covering a very, very silly topic. Forgive me for making a joke.
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But I can also disagree with it and call it what it is--ignorant bigoted bullshit based on ancient, outmoded fairy tales--all I want.
By no means would I ever argue with that. You're certainly free to do so, and I'll help.
I guess I don't see the joke, Richard. To be quite honest, most of the articles you've written about this topic read more like a ranting temper tantrum than anything else.
I'm going to assume that the failure is mine and that I just didn't "get it".
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I don't think Carrie Prejean needs you to come defend her right to free speech. She was the one whose actions were recently validated, despite the fact that her opinions repress an entire group of people's rights. I might feel inclined to throw a "hissy fit" (beautiful choice of words..) or make a few "snide remarks" if someone was coming out and saying ignorant bullshit things that affected my life and well being.
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