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Hydroceph
01/13/09

In reply to Alec Baldwin Promises To 'Go Into The Forest' For New Job
I had a resting heart rate of 47...

I call bullshit in the Pivster. World-class rowers, who do truly amazing things to their hearts in the course of training, might have a resting heart rate that low, but a coked-out actor? Release the medical records, or STFU.
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BeldenVerres
01/13/09

In reply to Alec Baldwin Promises To 'Go Into The Forest' For New Job
Don't feel sorry for Katie, except for the fact she was stupid to pass up "The Dark Knight". Oh yeah, like she's too good to appear in a film that may gross 1 billion. Haven't we come a long way from "Dawson's Creek", honey?
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BookishLookish
01/13/09

@BeldenVerres: Too bad she did, as anyone would have been better than the Muppet-faced Sloucher in the female lead.
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drunkexpatwriter
01/13/09

In reply to Alec Baldwin Promises To 'Go Into The Forest' For New Job
"As far as Tom's concerned, he kept his side of the bargain by allowing Katie to concentrate on her career; now it's time for her to keep hers."

Wow is that a scary comment. "Allowing." Really? In 2009, a husband "allows" their wife to have a career? And then demands that in exchange she have another baby?

Did anyone else read that item and see how horribly, horribly sexist it is.

"A source tells British magazine Now, "Tom believes Katie needs to focus on their family again. She's had her time being 'Katie Holmes' instead of just Tom's wife, but in return she agreed to have a second child as soon as that time's over. In Tom's eyes, that's now."

This is just fucking amazingly sexist. Can you sue for divorce on the grounds of "slavery?"
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bboston88
01/13/09

@drunkexpatwriter:

Truly horrifying. I'm just happy my husband "allows" me to be me and not "x's wife". Makes me shudder. I still never even got over the whole name change but I promised I'd do it and I'm a woman of my word. But it still bugs me.
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crotchety
01/13/09

@drunkexpatwriter: Yeah, well, maybe it's the "anonymous source" that's so sexist, we don't necessarily have a quote from Tom here.

Here I am defending Tom Cruise. You'd think I was a fan. I am not. I'm just not a fan of sly, whispery, "anonymous sources".
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drunkexpatwriter
01/13/09

@bboston88: If I were here I'd be secretly taking birth control.
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BankerHardcore
01/13/09

@drunkexpatwriter: I don't see this as sexist, but more that he is enforcing a contract.

No one actually believes that she didn't sign an ironclad contract in order to become his beard, do they?
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drunkexpatwriter
01/13/09

@crotchety: Yes, but if you are an anonymous source that lies about Tom Cruise doesn't Xenu strike you dead?
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SaraRueful
01/13/09

@drunkexpatwriter: She can sue for divorce for whatever she wants. But she doesn't. She's a grown woman with her own means of support (and honestly, I don't give much of a pass to women who stay with abusers -- of whatever form -- using that as an excuse), and IF she is miserable, well, that's her own fault. I certainly don't pity her.
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uninspired
01/13/09

@BankerHardcore: I agree - something tells me when they first met, Cruise and his Scientology friends handed her an outline of their first 10 years together. And apparently the next step is for them to have sex a second time.
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drunkexpatwriter
01/13/09

@uninspired:

How, exactly, do gay men get it up for women?

Isn't it a challenge?
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BookishLookish
01/13/09

@drunkexpatwriter: Please, flip her over and that skinny thing is practically a boy.
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drunkexpatwriter
01/13/09

@BookishLookish: But, wouldn't he naturally aim too high?
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BookishLookish
01/13/09

@drunkexpatwriter: Hole's a hole, as Courtney Love would say.
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FormerEnglishMajor
01/13/09

@SaraRueful: This, I totally agree with. She is rich, she has a supportive Midwestern family. If she stays, what message does that send to her daughter? There are women who have no money who manage to make it out of bad marriages - Katie has NO excuse. Totally, totally agree with you on this.
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FormerEnglishMajor
01/13/09

@BookishLookish: I'm totally calling this as a scientifically-assisted matter. He gets to "come in a cup", she gets an IUI. If he had sex with either her or Nicole, I'm Mother Theresa.
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drunkexpatwriter
01/13/09

@BookishLookish: I'm not sure that's true.

I've never had anal sex with a girl, because the idea of being in a vagina gets me hard, but the idea of being in an asshole doesn't.

I can't imagine it doesn't work somewhat the same way for gay guys.
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toosnarkyforthisshirt
01/13/09

@SaraRueful: @FormerEnglishMajor: Abuse isn't a "poor person thing". It hits women of every economic situation.

Neither of you have obviously never worked with abuse victims which explains your complete ignorance. It's called the cycle of abuse. Google that shit before you go around blaming the victim. It's the ignorance of people like you that keep women of all economic standings in abusive relationships.

But frankly I have no idea whether or not Katie Holmes is in an abusive relationship, but I just thought you guys needed to wise up based on your comments.
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Hydroceph
01/13/09

@drunkexpatwriter: challenge? try shoving a marshmallow in a slot machine. it's that kind of challenge.
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Hydroceph
01/13/09

@drunkexpatwriter: i'll probably get hated on for speaking for my people, but it was looking at Playboys when i was a kid (8 or 9) that convinced that whatever "that" was, i wanted no part of it. A hole's a hole? Nooooo, sir.
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SaraRueful
01/13/09

@toosnarkyforthisshirt: Oh, fuck you. That's not what I was saying at all. The women *I* have known have stayed with the prick using the excuse that they didn't have any job experience, no college degree, whatever, and thus had to stay with him for food and a place to live. That is the only excuse I've ever heard (I'm sorry, I didn't grow up around rich abused women, just poor ones) and Katie can't use it. Assuming she's even unhappy (which I said -- "IF" -- in my original post. But apparently you are too far up on your high horse to read it properly).
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scroll_lock
01/13/09

In reply to Alec Baldwin Promises To 'Go Into The Forest' For New Job
I thought Howie was hospitalized with a complete meltdown because someone shook his hand.
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DevilsAvocado
01/13/09

In reply to Alec Baldwin Promises To 'Go Into The Forest' For New Job
Who knew Baldwin had such an impressive Globe? He's certainly got a good grip on it.
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scroll_lock
01/13/09

@DevilsAvocado: The last honoree who received his major award couldn't walk for two days.
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
Think of the bright side Richard; when you're all alone at work all weekend, you don't have to hide the drinking!
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Weegee's bored
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
So is Katie taking the goddam thetans with her or leaving them in the gutter for the sanitation trucks to sweep up?
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prince_matchabelli
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
A dove was there. It cried.

Well, she is just like his mother - they're both 50.

Also, the Paris Hilton bit? Genius.
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Thatcornellguy
01/11/09

@prince_matchabelli: In a related story, Paris Hilton is desperately trying to stay on the A-list.
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Dagrolord
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
When the testosterone tsunami hits my brain, can thoughts of Katie Holmes being woefully 'under-utilized' be far behind?
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Xylo
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
ANYHEW, as I was saying deep inside someone else's thread:

Fantasies about Prince Ginger getting more complicated? Geez, I would have thought the costume-party Nazi uniform five years would have turned people off. for. good. It certainly made me determined to ignore anything he does for the rest of his life.

I fucking hate this new thread system.
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mfnher
01/11/09

@Xylo: I'm still unclear on the Nazi uniform incident. I know he's explaining the raghead comment by saying it was a term of endearment for a friend. What could possibly be the excuse for the Nazi uniform? I threw a Halloween party this year, and I don't think I would have let anyone through the door with that costume. You know, unless they brought booze or something.
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Xylo
01/11/09

@mfnher:

Not only "raghead", but "Paki", which his spokespeople claim was an affectionate term for a friend. However, the uncle of that soldier, who is now a Captain in the Pakistani Army (!!), claims they weren't particularly close and yes, as everyone knows, it is offensive to call a person from Pakistan a "Paki" : [news.bbc.co.uk]

(Unfortunately, the BBC story is full of rationalization about his past behaviour - saying he "wore an armband with a swastika" to the party, when he was obviously outfitted in a uniform and you have to scroll down mighty far to find the term "Paki".)

There is no excuse at all for anyone wearing a Nazi uniform. Unlike the cute Colonialism re-enactions north and south of the Canadian/US border, the only acceptable recreation of the Nazi era is little toy soldiers on a play battlefield, bombed by little toy airplanes and buckets of acid.
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misslinda
01/11/09

@Xylo: Or in a movie staring Tom Cruise?

Prince Harry is a tool. Probably has something to do with knowing he gets a free pass through life. His brother has the pressure of being the chosen one, and Harry gets to do whatever the heck he wants. Unfortunately, "whatever the heck he wants" involves being a lousy human being. He's hot though, if I were a 17 year old british girl I would be seriously swooning.
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SybilDisobedience
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
Mickey's just using the film as an excuse. He looks like he's been juicing for years.

...It was a really good movie, by the way, so go on with your Method-acting self, Mickey.
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Xylo
01/11/09

@SybilDisobedience: I thought it was a little uneven production-wise, but cripes, his performance rocked. Very, very sad and good.
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SybilDisobedience
01/11/09

@Xylo: Yes. I was indifferent to Rourke before, but by the end of the film I had so much empathy for the character it was unreal. I had no idea he could act like that, since he's been coasting on "ugly meathead" roles for about 12 years.

The worst aspect of the film was the subplot about his estranged daughter. I understood the purpose it served vis-a-vis his journey of self-awareness, but Evan Rachel Wood is a terrible actress and her performance was unbelievably grating.
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Xylo
01/11/09

@SybilDisobedience: I don't know much about her, so I didn't watch her character with much baggage attached. I just wanted to DIE for him at the blow-up with them. Out of horror or pity or I don't know what, it was unbearable.
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SybilDisobedience
01/11/09

@Xylo: Yeah, I knew virtually nothing about her before I saw The Wrestler (other than her icky relationship with Marilyn Manson), but now I am secure in the knowledge that I didn't miss much.

Well, maybe she's just not seasoned enough, and she'll learn some subtlety. She's quite young, after all.
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Spirit Fingers
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
It's hard to believe Rourke just STARted taking steroids for the movie. I think they're an intravenous waste product from the 80's, you know, when Sly Stone and the Arnold groped women, and commiserated with dueling speech impediments.
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Spirit Fingers
01/11/09

@Fallenstar SpiritFingers: "Don't STARt me a lyin!" I could really mean Sly Stallone. But Sly Stone probably also fits the bill in some way.
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theghostofsunnyvonbulow
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
Katie leaving? I thought she just landed a gig in Neverland...
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Xylo
01/11/09

@theghostofsunnyvonbulow: Didn't they have a fire sale there?
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Dickdogfood
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
Wait wait wait is the first item implying that Adrienne Rich is a Scientologist?!?!
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ShanghaiLil
01/11/09

In reply to Katie Holmes No Longer Required to Live In New York
Em...I am by no means in a position to vouch authoritatively for this, but when Josh Duhamel was in New York doing ALL MY CHILDREN there were numerous people whom I trust and who assured me that his ManHunt profile was pretty raunchy. So...if true, I hope Fergie knows. Really, one Liza Minnelli is enough.
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Understater
01/11/09

@ShanghaiLil:
That's both shocking and not.
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