This was a pretty funny scene in last night's episode. However, the one that sent me into convulsions laughing was Kathy Geiss channeling Britain's Got Talent sensation Susan Boyle at the auditions. Hysterical! #30rock
Queerty had a pretty good piece on the reasons why Hugh Jackman widely thought gay. Main argument: his wife is 14 years older. (Though by that standard, Demi Moore should be Ashton Kutcher's beard.)
And Defamer identified the John thanked in the Australian actor's Emmy acceptance speech in 2005: he's Jackman's longtime assistant and business partner John Palermo.
@Nick Denton: I think he's gay because I saw him at the Kylie Minogue concert a few weeks ago. There was not a straight man within 20 blocks of the Hammerstein Ballroom that evening. #30rock
@Nick Denton: As long as people who are ostensibly supportive of gay rights, whether they are straight or gay, continue to treat homosexuality as if it's some secret crime to be discovered, they are exacerbating the perception of homosexuality as sinful and otherized.
The gay rights movement remains positive as long as it's a movement of liberation, and it is only a movement of liberation as long as it allows people to self-identify. #30rock
@ArmCandy: It actually says he lived on Jackman's property, in a bungalow. Definitely still noteworthy, though.
Also interesting, from that link: Jackman wears a band from Palermo "opposite his wife's wedding band: 'It was given to me by John when we started our production company,' revealed H.J. 'In Sanskrit is written the basic principles of our company.'"
Oh, looks like Island got there first re the ring...
@Freddie DeBoer: I agree with what he said--it's hateful. He's not an asshole and he's not homophobic. If he's gay...probably the only person who has legitimate cause to upset is his wife (and, I suppose his kids, but his being gay doesn't change the sort of father he is...might change how asshole kids and their asshole parents might regard the family though, which is unfortunate).
That said...I think part of the joke is that Hugh Jackman is gay (based on what, that he can do musicals? Good for him), won't admit it, and therefore deserves scorn because he's hiding something.
It isn't that being gay itself is shameful (right), it's that people don't announce it as soon as someone demands to know about their private life, won't attempt to denounce or admit to rumors regarding that person's secrecy, their supposed effeminacy, etc.
I mean, hell, why should they be afraid or want to keep it under wraps? God knows, Hollywood and the voting/movie-going public couldn't care less, right?
If you're a sex symbol or famous, apparently the public (or at least, the entertainment/tabloid press) should have full access to your sex life if it wants to. Unless you're committing a crime or you're a hypocrite (plenty of right-wing assholes)....it shouldn't be. #30rock
In other news, what the fuck was with that Cisco thing. They were mocking product placement for sure, but were still promoting a product blatantly. #30rock
@teknowaffle: I sort of thought it was a commentary on how ubiquitous Cisco is at the moment. They are currently making acquisitions like crazy and seem to have their fingers in lots and lots of pots (including media stuff). So I took it as a nerdy, insidery joke, I guess. But maybe I'm wrong. #30rock
@esmemurphy: They ran an ad with Ellen Page featuring the teleconferencing system minutes before it appeared on the show. It was def. a McFlurry moment.
God, that thing was butt-uglee in Jack's office. #30rock
@Baroness: I missed that. Foiled by my TiVo! At least they are clever about it. And I love the show so they've got me over a barrel. I'll take the McFlurry moments over almost anything else on the tube these days.
@teknowaffle: I believe the writers' thinking is that if they have to do a product placement, they want to go so over-the-top that the audience knows the writers are aware of how ridiculous it is. Make a joke about it that the audience can appreciate, rather than lamely try to integrate it into the show when the audience will be fully aware of what's really going on. #30rock
@Fuzzy Dunlop: At one point as Jack/Alec is heaping praise on Cisco he puts an exclamation on the sentence with a furious scratch of his bed-bug bites. It's hilarious. The juxtaposition of the two things - plus the fact that the whole bit is OTT and turns viewers off actually doesn't do the company any favors. And I'm sure is quite deliberate.
But what do I know, I'm represented by the B+ Talent Agency. #30rock
@Fuzzy Dunlop: but what other show out there has 3 minute commercials built in? Ultimately they are just paid ads, and I'm not sure just yelling the name of the brand and looking directly into the camera is that 'cool' or 'ironic' anymore... #30rock
@abettertomorrow: I don't know that they've gotten to three minutes, but The Office may have come close.
And, one of the commonalities between these two shows are that they're immensely popular online. Personally, I watch both each week, but I only get to see them maybe once live each season and the rest of the time, it's from my Hulu queue.
An inline product placement wouldn't only get those who TIVO through the commercials, but it also enables them to monetize every eyeball; They can charge for those watching live, those via a DVR, Hulu (embedded and onsite), iTunes and even post-season DVD sales, so I wouldn't expect it to go anywhere, anytime soon.
After all, if memory serves, the very first episode of 30 Rock heavily promoted some kind of magical microwave from GE.
@Magister: And that was sort of the opposite of product placement in that the product was inserted in a "commercial" during the show but didn't really exist. #30rock
@A Message To Rudy: I did not realize the commercial was engineered to support the joke. I had always assumed that it was the other way around. #30rock
@Magister: That's what made it hilarous. They talked about this absurd product during the show (wish I could remember exactly what made it absurd) and then up pops this "commercial" for the product during a regular commercial break. #30rock
You left one thing off your list of why the gays love the Jack: The Australia card. It's kinda the real-life OZ for gay men. Convicts, cowboys, new wave and crazy sex. #30rock
@manchops: And then there's his starring role in a couple of Bryan Singer action movies about being part of an awesomely-superpowered but persecuted minority. #30rock
@harlows.landing: Not to mention his leading role in a Baz Lurhman production where he plays a rough-and-tumble leather-clad man whose romantic interest is the world's most famous beard. There's a reason why Aronofsky felt comfortable filming a sex scene between Jackman and his wife. #30rock
Did you photoshop out the ciggie? I'm just conditioned to expect it in conjunction with the combo of leather jacket and "hipster sombrero". #hughjackman
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And Defamer identified the John thanked in the Australian actor's Emmy acceptance speech in 2005: he's Jackman's longtime assistant and business partner John Palermo.
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The gay rights movement remains positive as long as it's a movement of liberation, and it is only a movement of liberation as long as it allows people to self-identify. #30rock
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Also interesting, from that link: Jackman wears a band from Palermo "opposite his wife's wedding band: 'It was given to me by John when we started our production company,' revealed H.J. 'In Sanskrit is written the basic principles of our company.'"
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That said...I think part of the joke is that Hugh Jackman is gay (based on what, that he can do musicals? Good for him), won't admit it, and therefore deserves scorn because he's hiding something.
It isn't that being gay itself is shameful (right), it's that people don't announce it as soon as someone demands to know about their private life, won't attempt to denounce or admit to rumors regarding that person's secrecy, their supposed effeminacy, etc.
I mean, hell, why should they be afraid or want to keep it under wraps? God knows, Hollywood and the voting/movie-going public couldn't care less, right?
If you're a sex symbol or famous, apparently the public (or at least, the entertainment/tabloid press) should have full access to your sex life if it wants to. Unless you're committing a crime or you're a hypocrite (plenty of right-wing assholes)....it shouldn't be. #30rock
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God, that thing was butt-uglee in Jack's office. #30rock
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It's part of their "cool". #30rock
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But what do I know, I'm represented by the B+ Talent Agency. #30rock
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And, one of the commonalities between these two shows are that they're immensely popular online. Personally, I watch both each week, but I only get to see them maybe once live each season and the rest of the time, it's from my Hulu queue.
An inline product placement wouldn't only get those who TIVO through the commercials, but it also enables them to monetize every eyeball; They can charge for those watching live, those via a DVR, Hulu (embedded and onsite), iTunes and even post-season DVD sales, so I wouldn't expect it to go anywhere, anytime soon.
After all, if memory serves, the very first episode of 30 Rock heavily promoted some kind of magical microwave from GE.
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