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MessiahsHandle
11/19/09

In reply to Christian Conservatives Praying for God to Kill Obama
Wow, who knew the Bible was such a downer....maybe Christians should read something more inspirational...like maybe the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants?...I haven't read it myself, but the movie was surprisingly less cloying than one would imagine....I don't think those girls wanted to smite anyone....except maybe their younger sisters....and those pesky boys....I think those pants performed miracles too, although that may be heresay..
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ajackarmstrong
11/18/09

In reply to Christian Conservatives Praying for God to Kill Obama
Wow, liberals truly are morons. The quote is a clever way to say Obama does not live or govern with Christian values and praying that he only serve one term to limit his damage to this country.
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Mediahohoho
11/18/09

@ajackarmstrong: No, it's a way for "Christians" who believe in the inerrancy and literal truth of scripture to say they want the President to die and someone else to take his office. And it is they who are damaging this country. Face it, no one expects your movement to be clever or subtle at this point. You're living in a bizarre fantasy of your own invention and playing the martyrs to compensate for your empty, shallow, materialistic lives.
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topsy
11/18/09

@ajackarmstrong: At least have the courage to own up to your hatefulness. You may think liberals are 'morons' but I think that conservatives are gutless, eunuchs. In the words of the Bible you like to hit people over the head with (try reading it some time), your kind are an abomination upon the land
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Trai_Dep
11/18/09

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Update: looks like Cafe Press yanked the shirt, to their credit.
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Dot
11/18/09

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So much for that "sanctity of life" idea, my skewed-way-to-the-right-of-sanity little rays of sunshine.
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David Monroe
11/18/09

In reply to Christian Conservatives Praying for God to Kill Obama
I'm a Quaker and can assure you that "A Cry for Vengeance," is NOT one of the foundational values of MY Christianity. This sickens and disturbs me. I'm a progressive in my politics and work every day in my life to live my values (as do many, christian or not) but when your values are hate, your doing Christianity wrong. Seriously wrong. I've seen some of my evangelical, young-earth, apocalypse believing FB friends say "Pray for Obama" I wondered if there was another part to that, a shoe ready to drop. I guess there was.
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topsy
11/18/09

@David Monroe: When that shoe does drop it will come as a bullet aimed at the President of the United States. These people aren't hiding the fact that they want Obama dead so I really don't know why the Secret Service isn't doing its job.
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rachel_hoiles
11/18/09

In reply to Christian Conservatives Praying for God to Kill Obama
I'm also a Christian democrat, and I voted for and support Barack Obama. Conservative, religous extremists are the problem here, not Christianity in general. Any T-shirt that advocates the death of President Obama runs counter to the very principles Christianity is founded upon. Additionally, when my family (almost all of whom are Christian conservatives) pray for Obama, they are praying for sound judgment during policy-making, not death. No true Christian would every pray for something so hateful or tragic.
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BicycleShed
11/18/09

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These people will never learn. For weeks in advance they prayed for rain the night of Obama's Convention speech and it turned out to be a beautiful night. The opening of the Republican Convention, however, had to be delayed because they didn't want to appear callous and insensitive while a hurricane made landfall along the Gulf Coast. Go figure.
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willwriteforfood
11/18/09

@BicycleShed: Since they're so big on talking about how God speaks to them directly, you'd think they'd wonder if God's hand WAS at work there. Just not in the way they want.
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hotpinklovesofa
11/18/09

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It's nut jobs like this that get this type of media coverage that make the world think that all of America is fucking crazy. I go to Europe and the automatic assumption is that I'm an uneducated, spoiled and intolerant whore! (thanks Paris Hilton for that last part) Of course when I chastise them in their own language and bust out a few more languages and details about their own crappy country that they can't be proud of, it tends to put them in their place. And, hopefully, they've learned their lesson about judging a person based on what they see on TV or movies. Shit like this still pisses me off though. I didn't drink the Kool-Aid on Obama but, fuck, this is crazy. How can you hate a person this much just based on the color of their skin?!
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SlappySquirrel
11/18/09

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In all fairness, Psalm 109:8 says:

'"Let his days be few; and let another take his office."

The rest of the Psalm is pretty scary, but the death threats aren't technically part of the specific verse they are citing. The bit about fatherless kids is 109:9.
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allium
11/19/09

@SlappySquirrel: Oh I'm sure when David or Jeduthun or Asaph or whoever wrote it they had the constitutional transfer of power firmly in mind.
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aielam
11/18/09

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Not all Christians are like this. I'm a liberal/democrat. I voted for and continue to support Obama. I pray for his safety, and did even before he was elected. Oh, and I support gay marriage, freedom of religion, a woman's choice, etc. I'm a Christian in faith and action, and I'm disgraced by others of my faith. I hate that Christians ask for support for their faith, yet deny others their right to believe something else. We have been narrow-minded and ignorant. I hope some of us can change the perception that all Christians hate everyone.
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hotpinklovesofa
11/18/09

@aielam: Unfortunately, you now know what a lot of Muslims felt like right after 9/11. I'm just curious how people can always pull psalms/passages/whatever to support the most intolerant shit but the very simple 'Thou shalt not judge' is completely ignored. It's the simplest thing to follow. You real do have to do a lot research to find anything in the bible to turn it into something hateful but not judging others lest you be judged is such common sense and yet no one can or even thinks of following it. It's very sad. I do have to admit though that if someone is southern and wears their christianity of their sleeve that I do tend to avoid getting close to them if I can. It's just not worth the drama.
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topsy
11/18/09

@aielam: When the assailant responsible for the Fort Hood massacre was identified as Muslim, there was a chorus of demands that 'right-thinking' Muslim condemn his actions at the top of their voices. I challenge all so-called Christians (I'm one of them) to do the same. No need to ask 'what would Jesus do' because Jesus would never condone this bullshit.
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Spirit Fingers
11/18/09

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Who knew you could turn Christianity into a gang? Apparently all of these people. By rights their Bibles should engulf them all into a huge wall of sin-identifying flame and festering blisters, in that order, or right after the harmonious rupturing of bowels only made better by the strategic placement of their asses attached to their faces in some sort of ecclesiastic act of righteousness.
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drunkenbeggar
11/18/09

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When the republicans had a president in office, anyone speaking out against him was labeled a "terrorist" or "not a patriot." Now that a democrat is in, they want to kill him.

How ironic that what they preach is closer to "terrorism" than what the democrats ever did.
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NigelAstydameia
11/18/09

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Neither American nor Christian--the right has truly lost its collective mind (not to mention morals).
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beercheck
11/18/09

@NigelAstydameia: You mean the psycho right, right?
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skharston
11/18/09

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These people are not Christians, conservative or otherwise. They are simply ignorant, mean-spirited bigots. True Christians do not behave this way.
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hotpinklovesofa
11/18/09

@skharston: Agreed. I think the message of any real religion is love not hate.
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OMG! Ponies!
11/18/09

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So if a Muslim, quoting the Qu'ran, preaches violence against Americans, he's a terrorist.

But if a Christian hides behind the Bible to call for the assassination of the President, that's okay?
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willwriteforfood
11/18/09

@OMG! Ponies!: Of course. God decrees it. You know, that God who's just and loving, who clothed the naked and fed the poor and suffered the little children to come unto him. He also hates socialist Muslim Nazi communists too.
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OMG! Ponies!
11/18/09

@willwriteforfood: That's it!

I'm going to CafePress a "60 U.S. 393: Taney Was Right" tee-shirt and see what rightwing whackjobs will buy and/or defend it.
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BitterDiva
11/18/09

@OMG! Ponies!: Man, these "Christians" would FREAK if they realized they were worshipping a hippyish Middle Eastern Jew who loved The Poors and preached passive resistance. If Jesus were to return to them in human form, they'd beat him to death before he got out of the parking lot.
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thespaceygirl
11/18/09

@OMG! Ponies!: It's the difference between hating one person versus hating an entire country. Totally different. (I would never say it or buy the bumper sticker etc., but it makes sense. Oh, and I'm not Christian or Muslim.)
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hotpinklovesofa
11/18/09

@BitterDiva: They won't recognize his Judaism believing that he too was a Christian instead of getting that it's Christ as in Jesus Christ. Probably why they perpetuate the notion that the Jews killed Jesus and not the Romans even though the Romans did all the butchering. And even if you want to use the excuse that the Jews turned against Jesus, well, Jesus was a Jew. No different than when Americans turn on other Americans and Christians turn on other Christians. Catholics aren't considered Christians and yet they started the whole Christ worship thing. Figure that one out. I get the pope is a farce but at least remember your roots. I so don't get that world. I grew up Catholic and yet I was never taught to hate anyone for being a different religion and was super surprised when I was old enough to understand that there was this huge movement against Catholics. I'm not a religious person at all now but I do get offended given that my family still practices and they too believe in the message of love, not hate.
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Atilla the Bun
11/18/09

@thespaceygirl: You think their hate is limited to "one person," i.e., Obama? Hardly. The same wingnuts that think this shirt is so great also wouldn't mind if every Muslim was wiped off the planet, wherever they may reside. The wingnuts' hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness in speaking about Islam and Muslims is mind-boggling. Take a tour of the comments section the freerepublic sometime if you have any doubt.
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thespaceygirl
11/18/09

@Atilla the Bun: hmm...i think this is going somewhere unexpected. I voted for Obama and totally regret it. Totally wish he would leave office and become a talk show host. I would totally watch. I love the sound of his voice.

And there are a ton of people like me who don't want to kill all Muslims. I have Pakistani and Iranian Muslim friends whose friends and family are anti-american. It scares me. but they are good people. some people can seperate the 2 things.

i wouldn't get upset over this.
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topsy
11/18/09

@thespaceygirl: Wow, the 'some of my best friends' speech. Who had 10:36PM in the pool?
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