This doesn't surprise me at all. With the exception of myself, every American I know who lives in France is a complete and total hash head. The amount of cannabis floating around Southern France makes a Grateful Dead tour look like a NA meeting.
Did anyone really see them growing old and grey together? On-set hook ups rarely last very long even when you add 6 kids to the mix. Plus, Angelina seems crazy, conniving and manipulative. Pitt seems like a lost follower who mimicks every woman he dates. It was doomed from the start. Fantastic sex does not a stable relationship make.
@heywhat: Everyone thought they wouldn't last a year. LMAO
No one can foresee the future and predict if a relationship will last.
I personaly have a hard time believing that a 46 year old man and 34 year woman would be together for 5 years and keep having children if then didn't have a good relationship.
@BILHOS: I don't know about that whole lasting for a year thing. I remember their coupling was treated like the Second Coming by the entertainment industry. They have been a Godsend for the tabloid editors. Anyways, I don't worship at the alter of Jolie, Pitt or Anniston. I could give a damn about what any of the do but I do know the odds were against Brangelina from the beginning, celebrities or not. I'm not rooting for them to break up, I'm just being realistic.
@heywhat: Why are the odds against Pitt and Jolie? LOL. They have the same chances as any other couple.
Like i've told you a 46 year old man and 34 year woman wouldn't be together for 5 years and keep having children if then didn't have a good relationship and believed in their future together.
Will they last another year? More 5 years? 10? 20? Forever? No onw knows. No one can foresee the future and predict how long a relationship will last.
@BILHOS: "Like i've told you a 46 year old man and 34 year woman wouldn't be together for 5 years and keep having children if then didn't have a good relationship and believed in their future together." And you know this how? Because I've known plenty of people who stayed in bad relationships after having kids and their age difference was about the same as Brangelina. I realize I'm talking to a Brangeloonie who is probably really emotionally invested in this relationship but calm down. It's not that serious.
@heywhat: No, i don't think i'm that. LMAO
And don't worry i'm very calm person and it's not in my nature to "invest" in celebs relationships.
I reinforce what i've told you before:
Pitt and Jolie have as many changes of making it as any other couple. And a 46 year old man and 34 year woman wouldn't be together for 5 years and keep having children if they didn't have a good relationship and believed in their future together.
I also know plenty of people that stayed in bad relationship/marriage. And 2 of the main reasons for that happening were money and kids. But those couples didn't keep having kids after the relationship had gone bad.
@BILHOS: Never heard of "band-aid babies"? Unfortunately, I know plenty of couples who had kids after the relationship was clearly not good for either one of them. It happens.
Every time I want to hate Brad and Angelina for being media whores I remember they gave $6 million to charity last year alone and have devoted a significant amount of their time to innumerable charities.
Has Aniston done anything for charity? Given anything to charity? Brad got tired of her vacuous lifestyle.
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Doesn't list dollar amounts, though, so it could be only tangential or superficial support, like attending $1000/plate celebrity gala type thing. She is the spokesperson for St. Jude now, so there's that.
I am still on team Braniston, regardless of Angelina's charity work. If Jennifer did some showy charity thing, people would only say that she's trying to compete with Angelina.
Angelina's charity work could very well be viewed as PR stunts to take the focus off her homewrecking ways. I don't like her, so that's the way I choose to look at it.
I can't believe this shit. I thought I was on Gawker not Jezebel. Angelina is still the Scarlett Woman? Still? And we are still holding vigils for St. Anniston? Come on now. The sexism and the not so subtle racism here is a fucking joke. ' A 'multicultural' team of nannies'' Oh horrors, does that mean a bunch of darkies and foreigners are looking after Shiloh, the Great White Hope?
Once more, this time with feeling, Brad Pitt left Jennifer Aniston because HE WANTED TO. I remember reading about Americas Sweetheart''s reluctance to have children long before Pitt got a whiff of Jolie. All this 'poor Brad bullshit is so stupid. Brad Pitt is a GROWN MAN. He can build houses in New Orleans, don't you think he knows where he wants to stick his dick.
If I'm team anybody, I'm on Angelina's team because the woman does more than worry about her highlights. She works with refugees and brings attention to victims of war and oppression. Jolie does shit that matters. And I think that's her biggest crime because how dare this sexy, beautiful, successful woman go her own way without asking for our approval. How dare she love those dark children more than Shiloh?!?!? She was a 'bad' girl, taking drugs and cutting herself and she changed without doing the obligatory stations of the cross with Barbara and Oprah. Angelina Jolie has never offered herself up for our derision and judgement and some will never forgive her for it.
Foster asked who would buy this book and the answer is assholes will buy this book.
@topsy: Yeah, I think it's weird when people don't like Angeline Jolie. Like, step your game up and your man won't 'get taken'. But I know Foster jokes, so I assumed he was just adopting the rabble-rousing nature of the subject itself.
Okay, lastly, 'cause I haven't started drinking yet, but I do hate how their biological child is supposed to be 'the awesome one' and the others are just 'the lucky ones'. They are all wealthy. They are all the lucky one.
(This all reminds me of Chasing Amy, and the 'finger trap' business, via your past haunting you no matter how much good you do.)
@topsy: I agree with a lot of what you said, except for the part about Jolie asking for our approval...
I think approval seeking is a large part of who she is, especially if nannies are made to duck out of pictures and that prominent work-out vein is to be believed. To me she seems extremely high-strung and not actually *happy.* But I guess at least the side effect is that charities and children are benefitting from her altruistic employ of her and Brad's financial largesse.
@themediatrix: Isn't it possible that the nannies also don't want to be photographed? I mean, I never had a nanny, but do families normally include their nannies in pictures? I don't think so...
@topsy: I'm a pretty racially sensitive person but I don't really see the racism in the multicultural brood of nannies sentence. Angelina said herself that she intentionally hired a team of multicultural nannies b/c she felt it was important for the children to be around people that looked like them and knew something about their cultures and ethnic backgrounds. Angelina did talk to Barbara during her transformation from bad girl to do-gooder.
I don't see Aniston as a saint nor am I cynical enough to question Angelina's motives for doing charity work. I say good for her for helping people in need. Angelina is a sexual confident woman and some women are put off by that but that doesn't mean she isn't a manipulative person. I think she is a master at the publicity game and is great at controlling her image. That isn't necessarily a bad thing though. Why pay a publicist when you can do your own PR?
@Ariadne27: No, the nannies really don't want to be photographed. But as a former celeb nanny, let me say that you can do WAY better than these two do at keeping the kids out of sight.
@themediatrix: I see seeking attention and seeking approval as different things. I guess when you're on the level of Angelina Jolie, you're going to get attention whether you seek it or not so the name of the game becomes controlling it as much as possible. I don't have people judging my mothering skills, possible drug use and even my sanity from a photo, so I can't say if Jolie is doing the right thing or no.
The thing that makes me so disgusted is this Hester Prynne bullshit. Mean Angie stole Poor Jen's man with the power of her MAGICAL PUSSY. What's a Nice Girl to do when all she has is a hairdo to fight a MAGICAL PUSSY? Every Nice Girl (and the Nice Guys who love them) must band together against the power of the MAGIC PUSSY. Since the goal of every Nice Girl is to find and KEEP a handsome prince, Brad Pitt (a grown ass man) is completely absolved of any responsibility whatsoever. All he has to is drink the potion that will break the Pussy's spell and everyone will live happily ever after. Jesus.
@topsy: Well, to be honest, I haven't followed any of this at all closely, and you are referencing points that I've barely paid attention to, and in some cases, remain blissfully unaware of.
In general, I guess I see both women each as somewhat emotionally disturbed but in different ways.
Angela = originally "unloved" and acting out, finally "pulls self together" and hires a great stylist; gives back because as a former misfit she is filled with empathy (plus, there could be some tax write-offs in play); she then keeps an extremely tight reign on herself, her image and her family because the "pulling together" was so herculean.
Jen = not very mature, constantly "pained," and lacking a secure identity fails to look within for happiness; has a stunted capacity for autonomy as well as for empathy; is never joyous, and still not healed from her losses, whatever they may be, and generally lacks empathy because of it -- therefore never giving back or appreciating what she has.
Brad = a man willing to adapt to whatever woman he's with at the moment, and who has never really been on his own anyway -- bouncing straight from one woman to another like a little boy.
None of them are particularly admirable in my opinion, but then, like I said, I've only given the most cursory thought to the situation. My assessment could be quite wrong, but it's not worth it to me to look more closely.
Perhaps there *is* a press-play underway that paints one woman as a man-stealer and one as a wounded, wronged sprite, but you know those archetypes have been around forever and were well exploited in literature even before Shakespeare threw their like across the boards. That the tabloids pull these folks into these roles is just the nature of the narrative from my point of view.
@topsy: I admire your passion but think you might be overromancing Angie's altruistic nature. On the other hand, you're dead on about the storyline of the MAGIC PUSSY, but I think that shit really just means pussy you haven't had yet. In fact, this same plotline can be found in the Tiger-has-a-mistress-Elin-goes-ballistic story. It's a classic.
Yes, please, all of this be true EXCEPT the Braniston reunion.
Though everything I've read about Brad Pitt in the last 24 hours suggests he is both the coolest guest at every dinner party and a generally Awesome Dude . . . . he's a cheatah and you don't need it, Jen. To friendship.
Team Brad-Come-To-Prospect-Heights-And-Get-Me-High
Total team Braniston, but do we have to wait until 2011? I love Jen and I want to be her friend. I don't get the "poor, pathetic Jen" story lines - she does a lot better in the boyfriend department than most women I know.
I like Brad and Angelina together and I hate speculating that it's all some grand publicity hoax/stunt.
What minor investment I've made in their relationship has mostly to do with the fact that despite all this hooplah related to their romantic lives, when interviewed they sound really thoughtful and somewhat informed, if not smart.
Jennifer may share Brad's love for pot smoking and for that, i can imagine that hanging out with her would be fun, but she's also a beach bum. A blond, sun-kissed, boring beach bum. Angelina is surely exhausting but at least she does stuff and thinks about things other than which Mexican coast to relax on.
@gawkimo: if i wasn't clear, that would be an "emotional" investment. And honestly, i'm feel pretty neutral about it. I don't watch sports with much regularity (limited mostly to tennis grand slams, and the world cup), so I'd like to think this is my substitute.
Ian Halperin is nucking futs. He's a starfucker wannabe who skulks around the fringes of stardom by joining the gyms of celebs and trying to seduce the girlfriends of security types. He rains a firestorm of speculation on a subject and if ONE of them hits, he gloats and dines out on it for months. Name ONE "revelation" that hasn't been brooded over on a typical Dlisted thread. Hack.
@topsy: Oh man, did I resent the facetime he got after MJ's death. That timing of death is the ONLY thing accurate in that piece of crap book. He takes a kernel of truth and wraps it in conjecture and sprinkles the whole shit with nuggets of lewdness. Ferrero Rocher has nothing on Halperin.
@marciax3: Agreed. None of these stuff is a revelation to anyone who has read a gossip blog in the past 5 years. It's a rehash of every rumor I have ever read about them with a bunch of quotes from anonymous sources added in just to make it look legitimate and well researched. Brangelina has reached that stage in the cycle of celebrity relationships where everyone wants them to either break up or get married. They've done everything else.
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Of course it was, Foster. Crazy-person sex is always the best kind. It just comes at a really high price.
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People that hold their breath over this nonsense should shampoo my crotch.
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Angelina just seems like a self-righteous psychopath anyway.
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No one can foresee the future and predict if a relationship will last.
I personaly have a hard time believing that a 46 year old man and 34 year woman would be together for 5 years and keep having children if then didn't have a good relationship.
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Like i've told you a 46 year old man and 34 year woman wouldn't be together for 5 years and keep having children if then didn't have a good relationship and believed in their future together.
Will they last another year? More 5 years? 10? 20? Forever? No onw knows. No one can foresee the future and predict how long a relationship will last.
I'm being realist too.
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And don't worry i'm very calm person and it's not in my nature to "invest" in celebs relationships.
I reinforce what i've told you before:
Pitt and Jolie have as many changes of making it as any other couple. And a 46 year old man and 34 year woman wouldn't be together for 5 years and keep having children if they didn't have a good relationship and believed in their future together.
I also know plenty of people that stayed in bad relationship/marriage. And 2 of the main reasons for that happening were money and kids. But those couples didn't keep having kids after the relationship had gone bad.
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It's just taken Brad a looooong time to figure it out.
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Has Aniston done anything for charity? Given anything to charity? Brad got tired of her vacuous lifestyle.
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Although I suppose her incredible body of cinematic masterpieces is a form of charity to the rest of us.
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Aniston does plenty of charity work, but like most, she doesn't use it to sell an image.
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(And they gave every last dime of the proceeds from those baby photos to charity.)
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and here: [www.anistoncenter.com]
Doesn't list dollar amounts, though, so it could be only tangential or superficial support, like attending $1000/plate celebrity gala type thing. She is the spokesperson for St. Jude now, so there's that.
I am still on team Braniston, regardless of Angelina's charity work. If Jennifer did some showy charity thing, people would only say that she's trying to compete with Angelina.
Angelina's charity work could very well be viewed as PR stunts to take the focus off her homewrecking ways. I don't like her, so that's the way I choose to look at it.
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Braniston? Brangelina? Bennifer? Oh for phuck's sake, just stop it now!
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Once more, this time with feeling, Brad Pitt left Jennifer Aniston because HE WANTED TO. I remember reading about Americas Sweetheart''s reluctance to have children long before Pitt got a whiff of Jolie. All this 'poor Brad bullshit is so stupid. Brad Pitt is a GROWN MAN. He can build houses in New Orleans, don't you think he knows where he wants to stick his dick.
If I'm team anybody, I'm on Angelina's team because the woman does more than worry about her highlights. She works with refugees and brings attention to victims of war and oppression. Jolie does shit that matters. And I think that's her biggest crime because how dare this sexy, beautiful, successful woman go her own way without asking for our approval. How dare she love those dark children more than Shiloh?!?!? She was a 'bad' girl, taking drugs and cutting herself and she changed without doing the obligatory stations of the cross with Barbara and Oprah. Angelina Jolie has never offered herself up for our derision and judgement and some will never forgive her for it.
Foster asked who would buy this book and the answer is assholes will buy this book.
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Okay, lastly, 'cause I haven't started drinking yet, but I do hate how their biological child is supposed to be 'the awesome one' and the others are just 'the lucky ones'. They are all wealthy. They are all the lucky one.
(This all reminds me of Chasing Amy, and the 'finger trap' business, via your past haunting you no matter how much good you do.)
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I think approval seeking is a large part of who she is, especially if nannies are made to duck out of pictures and that prominent work-out vein is to be believed. To me she seems extremely high-strung and not actually *happy.* But I guess at least the side effect is that charities and children are benefitting from her altruistic employ of her and Brad's financial largesse.
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I don't see Aniston as a saint nor am I cynical enough to question Angelina's motives for doing charity work. I say good for her for helping people in need. Angelina is a sexual confident woman and some women are put off by that but that doesn't mean she isn't a manipulative person. I think she is a master at the publicity game and is great at controlling her image. That isn't necessarily a bad thing though. Why pay a publicist when you can do your own PR?
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The thing that makes me so disgusted is this Hester Prynne bullshit. Mean Angie stole Poor Jen's man with the power of her MAGICAL PUSSY. What's a Nice Girl to do when all she has is a hairdo to fight a MAGICAL PUSSY? Every Nice Girl (and the Nice Guys who love them) must band together against the power of the MAGIC PUSSY. Since the goal of every Nice Girl is to find and KEEP a handsome prince, Brad Pitt (a grown ass man) is completely absolved of any responsibility whatsoever. All he has to is drink the potion that will break the Pussy's spell and everyone will live happily ever after. Jesus.
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In general, I guess I see both women each as somewhat emotionally disturbed but in different ways.
Angela = originally "unloved" and acting out, finally "pulls self together" and hires a great stylist; gives back because as a former misfit she is filled with empathy (plus, there could be some tax write-offs in play); she then keeps an extremely tight reign on herself, her image and her family because the "pulling together" was so herculean.
Jen = not very mature, constantly "pained," and lacking a secure identity fails to look within for happiness; has a stunted capacity for autonomy as well as for empathy; is never joyous, and still not healed from her losses, whatever they may be, and generally lacks empathy because of it -- therefore never giving back or appreciating what she has.
Brad = a man willing to adapt to whatever woman he's with at the moment, and who has never really been on his own anyway -- bouncing straight from one woman to another like a little boy.
None of them are particularly admirable in my opinion, but then, like I said, I've only given the most cursory thought to the situation. My assessment could be quite wrong, but it's not worth it to me to look more closely.
Perhaps there *is* a press-play underway that paints one woman as a man-stealer and one as a wounded, wronged sprite, but you know those archetypes have been around forever and were well exploited in literature even before Shakespeare threw their like across the boards. That the tabloids pull these folks into these roles is just the nature of the narrative from my point of view.
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Though everything I've read about Brad Pitt in the last 24 hours suggests he is both the coolest guest at every dinner party and a generally Awesome Dude . . . . he's a cheatah and you don't need it, Jen. To friendship.
Team Brad-Come-To-Prospect-Heights-And-Get-Me-High
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What minor investment I've made in their relationship has mostly to do with the fact that despite all this hooplah related to their romantic lives, when interviewed they sound really thoughtful and somewhat informed, if not smart.
Jennifer may share Brad's love for pot smoking and for that, i can imagine that hanging out with her would be fun, but she's also a beach bum. A blond, sun-kissed, boring beach bum. Angelina is surely exhausting but at least she does stuff and thinks about things other than which Mexican coast to relax on.
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So would you say that was a good or bad investment?
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