@MisterHippity: You'd best believe it! My guess - for the quickfire challenge, they're going to have to fillet Fugu. Whoever messes up won't be moving on to the elimination challenge, because they're dead!
Also, the guest judge will tell them their knife skills need work, and their fish looks like cat food.
Bill Kristol is also just so insubstantial an intellect. Come to think of it, is there a single right wing pundit who seems cerebral? Intellectually agile? I can't think of one. Hitch -- while not a proper righty -- may come the closest, I hate to say. Hell, even Joe Scarborough is more interesting than Kristol.
@flossy: I can't get past me loathing of Noonan to praise anything about her. She's the Maureen Dowd of the left, only less trite. She did score on the Palin front, though.
@Helman: Eh, she may have no morals but the woman can turn a mean phrase. She put words in Reagan's mouth that actually made him sound credible, so much so that people still kiss his dead ass today. And once in a blue moon she cuts the disingenuous bullshit to write something eloquent and insightful before going back to being Peggy Noonan. Even on an off day, though, she makes Bill Kristol look like an intellectual man-child.
@BookishLookish: Actually, PBS' Frontline has been doing a good job with that, lately. Well, but more in the eastern highlands, not really Kabul.
And it just makes me sad for those troops. Facing so much danger, with so little reward in prospect. Their courage is of course admirable, but I defy you to come away from one of those documentaries without feeling like someone, somewhere in the chain of command is letting them down.
I don't understand how Bill Kristol can be continually wrong about everything that matters and still get a forum in the media. When I was going to journalism school and starting out in the business, I learned that if a source is frequently wrong, find another source. So tell me one thing Bill Kristol has been right about? If he told me the sun was going to come up in the morning, I wouldn't be sure until about 6:30 a.m. EST.
@BookishLookish: Agreed! And let me be the second to shill about that Toots documentary. If you're at all interested in Manhattan, sports, and/or celebrity . . .
@BookishLookish: @JeanBrodie: Ooh, I must see this. We have a Toots Shor's ashtray that has been passed down, along with a few stories, like the family Bible. (One of the reasons for my avatar, in fact.)
@SidAndFinancy: A long time ago at 21 there was a media event. When the open bar opened, I was the first one at it, just ahead of this doddering old guy with a cane. I was later congratulated for being "the only one who ever beat Toots Shor to the bar."
This Pete Hamill guy is right. It's BS that I wasn't shown images of the splattered remains or charred corpses of the individuals who died on 9-11. Those images should of been all over the media, along with horrific images of our soldiers who were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
@Peoplefamiliarwith: Way to distort the issue. What's disgusting is that with all the lip service paid to honoring the troops, their families' express wishes were repeatedly overridden by the Bush Administration's gag order on allowing press coverage of their coffins returning or their funerals. What's even more disgusting is that right-wing sympathizers, out of either duplicity or ignorance, often cited the lack of coverage as proof the media didn't care about our troops, when it was specifically prohibited by their Fuehrer, I mean, President.
@MissNormaDesmond: Watch the video. This guy wants images of an American soldier, who just had his brains splattered on the road because a terrorist put an AK-47 bullet through his skull, to be shown to the mass public.
If you have the courage to deal with that, you can enlist!
So any Afghani who shoots an American soldier occupying Afghanistan, under any circumstance, is a terrorist, yes? Okay. Why not?
And what would we call, then, American soldiers who blow up a wedding party in Afghanistan, killing numerous innocent civilians and children, maiming and traumatizing even more for life? (This has happened more than once, by the way.)
What's the term there, according to the rules?
We still don't know definitively who planned and carried out 9/11, but the going theory is the so-called hijackers went out there and made it happen. Well, none of the so-called hijackers came from Afghanistan.
They were, we're told, mostly Saudis.
But forget that, facts confuse the rules--let's say there were 25 hijackers from Afghanistan. So the rules are, we can go into that country, kick ass like crazy, and anyone who resists is a terrorist? And any innocents we kill, they're just what... poor bastards? Statistics? Road kill? Regrettable accidents?
@Peoplefamiliarwith: In other words, you want the ability to sit and watch coverage that's been sanitized for your protection, so that you don't have to deal with the distasteful reality that carnage is taking place in your name and on your dime. Let the people who've "enlisted" face the horror. Why should we be subjected to images that might upset us? It's not as if that might motivate people to question whether what's being done is worth what it's costing us in U.S., Iraqi, and Afghani lives, instead of being able to sit in comfort and complacency and pretend that the magical surge has made everything happy and sparkly again.
@MissNormaDesmond: Let's make a deal. The anti-war left gets as many images of marines who just had their brains blown all over the road as they like, which they can use for propoganda purposes telling use how immoral war is. But in order for this to happen, the religious right gets all the images of aborted fetuses and scrambled feti brains as it likes, which the religous right can use for propoganda purposes.
Every time a soldier dies, we show his mutulated corpse on the nightly news. Every time there's an abortion, we show the aborted fetus on the nightly news. That's what you want, right? Keepin' shit real?
@Peoplefamiliarwith: I'm massively unsurprised to find that the whole point about how women are individuals who have a right to privacy and sovereignty over their bodies such that medical procedures they undergo aren't equivalent to public events escapes you. Nonetheless, that's still the case (and liable to be for some time to come, praise be to Obama), so no, sorry, your analogy or bargain or whatever you're calling it falls flat.
It's refreshing, though, that you admit straight out that all you're interested in is propaganda, rather than simple truth. We won't allow the media to cover military funerals, no matter how much we claim to revere our service people and their families, because it's bad propaganda. We can't show unedited footage of what our service people are doing, because it's bad propaganda. Good to hear you say so.
@MissNormaDesmond: I'm interested in a lot stuff, but I'm not interested in propoganda. However, I see this as a propoganda issue. People who are anti-war want horrific images of war so people will be turned off to war, just like the people at PETA want images of slaughterhouses to turn people off meat, or social conservatives would like abortion images to turn people off having an abortion. In every case, those groups are using imagery to get their points across in a calculating way.
I have good idea of what goes on in war, slaughterhouses, and abortion clinics. So does most of the country. The fact is, mothers have a hard time watching their sons varsity football game, let alone the play-by-play and unedited results of war. If you had a son serving in the military (you might, I don't know), would you want to be barraged by constant images of death? Brains on the road, like this guy wants?
@RonnSicTorossian: I think Hamill is referring to the policy not to show coffins returning to the US, sometimes in contradiction of the family's wishes.
@Aaron Altman: Hey! Phil's impression kicked the stool out of Piscopo's! He was doing Sinatra when you were just a glimmer in your drunken father's bloodshot eye!
@ian spiegelman: Oh shite that's RIGHT! Hah. I was leafing through that giant Saturday Night Live coffee table book I have the other night and realized that Joe Piscopo was pretty fucking funny when he worked with Eddie Murphy, like dayummmmm kinda funny. Of COURSE Hartman's was better. Hartman was awesome at everything, up to an including Bill McNeill on NewsRadio. If there's a modern-day Hartman, in fact, I'd say it's Darrell Hammond from SNL, only he'll NEVER be as awesome.
I'm convinced that if he'd just come out of the closet he would immediately regain huge portions of his brain that have been suppressed and then suddenly start to make sense and be sane.
@GirlyWhirl: No, it wouldn't matter who he fucked, or where he fucked them, the pablum he spews in between shit-eating grins will never make sense. He and his piehole should be buried up to the neck in sand somewhere on a desert island.
Puppycam update: the puppies were just nursing and jumping up to kiss Mummy!!
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The show starts at 10 (Eastern), and the post should be up here on Gawker in around 45 minutes.
I'm just hanging out waiting until then. Because ... um ... I have no life.
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Also, the guest judge will tell them their knife skills need work, and their fish looks like cat food.
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But tonight's quickfire will actually involve hot dogs. i saw it on the preview.
But it could still be the same effect ... a hot dog is probably just as likely to kill you as Fugu is.
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What if there was a warcam and we actually saw the one day in the life of a soldier in Kabul, unedited?
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And it just makes me sad for those troops. Facing so much danger, with so little reward in prospect. Their courage is of course admirable, but I defy you to come away from one of those documentaries without feeling like someone, somewhere in the chain of command is letting them down.
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(He's also really good in the documentary about Toots Shor.)
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(Maybe Handsome Dick down at Manitoba's on Avenue B.)
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If you have the courage to deal with that, you can enlist!
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So any Afghani who shoots an American soldier occupying Afghanistan, under any circumstance, is a terrorist, yes? Okay. Why not?
And what would we call, then, American soldiers who blow up a wedding party in Afghanistan, killing numerous innocent civilians and children, maiming and traumatizing even more for life? (This has happened more than once, by the way.)
What's the term there, according to the rules?
We still don't know definitively who planned and carried out 9/11, but the going theory is the so-called hijackers went out there and made it happen. Well, none of the so-called hijackers came from Afghanistan.
They were, we're told, mostly Saudis.
But forget that, facts confuse the rules--let's say there were 25 hijackers from Afghanistan. So the rules are, we can go into that country, kick ass like crazy, and anyone who resists is a terrorist? And any innocents we kill, they're just what... poor bastards? Statistics? Road kill? Regrettable accidents?
I'd like to know the rules.
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Every time a soldier dies, we show his mutulated corpse on the nightly news. Every time there's an abortion, we show the aborted fetus on the nightly news. That's what you want, right? Keepin' shit real?
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It's refreshing, though, that you admit straight out that all you're interested in is propaganda, rather than simple truth. We won't allow the media to cover military funerals, no matter how much we claim to revere our service people and their families, because it's bad propaganda. We can't show unedited footage of what our service people are doing, because it's bad propaganda. Good to hear you say so.
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I have good idea of what goes on in war, slaughterhouses, and abortion clinics. So does most of the country. The fact is, mothers have a hard time watching their sons varsity football game, let alone the play-by-play and unedited results of war. If you had a son serving in the military (you might, I don't know), would you want to be barraged by constant images of death? Brains on the road, like this guy wants?
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Yes, yes, it shows.
I do always wonder what's going on, though, when people repeatedly feel compelled to use words that they don't know how to spell.
Kind of suggests they don't know what the words mean, either.
Could it be that what you call "propoganda" is instead, to many people, information relevant to making an educated judgment on something?
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But it's okay; I can picture it vividly. In my mind.
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Just like we have to picture, in our minds, coverage of dead soldiers, and dead Iraqis.
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A five year-old has enough wit to call his opponent "poopypants".
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I'm misreading everything!
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Actually, there were those photos of the charred corpses of the contractors who were ambushed in Falluja and hung from a bridge.
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I'm convinced that if he'd just come out of the closet he would immediately regain huge portions of his brain that have been suppressed and then suddenly start to make sense and be sane.
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Puppycam update: the puppies were just nursing and jumping up to kiss Mummy!!
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