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    Image of SanFranLefty SanFranLefty
    11/24/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Publisher of our local fish wrap/Sharon Stone's ex piles on Mayor McDreamy and his demands to dictate all press interviews:

    [www.sfgate.com]
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Oh no! He didn't "Mount Kilauea" or "Scale Diamond Head" did he? I seriously hope he's not stuck his penis in the pu pu platter cause aside for the odd behavior of recent, I like the guy. Plus he's hot as far as mayors are concerned.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Palin Newsom 2012.
    Their slogan: We're totlly clueless but look great on TV.
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    That newscast seems appropriately shit for SF.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    What people have to realize is that Gavin has gotten by his whole life on his looks and his social connections. While not wealthy himself, he grew up pals with the Getty boys, neither of whom speak to him now. Gordon Getty, their father, supported Gavin's political aspirations in the beginning and even financed his first big house in SF--but that support, too, is now weak and for the first time Gavin has to GROW UP and quit acting like the little bitch punk he's always been under that smooth exterior. He doesn't have the kind of money to life the lifestyle that he was raised around so he figured politics & power would get it for him--wrong! I used to love the guy, but now I can't stand his petty gutless immaturity.
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    11/23/09

    @Tattertotter: "petty gutless immaturity" - I hope you don't mind if I shamelessly use this awesome comment as my own this holiday?
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    11/23/09

    @Tattertotter: was wondering why he couldn't raise "enough" money for the gov spot.
    what caused the break up with the getty family?
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    11/24/09

    @Tattertotter: You really nailed it with this description. But tell me how, with all this insight, you actually used to "love the guy?"
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    11/24/09

    @swedishcouscous: Breakup with Billy Getty was over women and money, the usual.

    [www.sfgate.com]
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    11/24/09

    @yojeezy: His courageous support of LGBT rights/same-sex marriage and his efforts (failed) to solve SF's huge homeless problem made him a very attractive mayor at first. SF hadn't had a decent mayor since Feinstein went to Washington, so Gavin looked pretty good there for a while. Too good to be true in fact.


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    11/24/09

    @swedishcouscous: Most of the people in a position to know have claimed that Gordon Getty favored Gavin--personally and financially--over his own sons, especially Billy who has always been his father's favorite son and also his biggest disappointment. Billy and Gavin bought some property together with support from Gordon, Billy changed his mind and wanted out, but his father sided with Gavin and all but wiped-out Billy's investment. I think Billy knows he's just a fuck-up in his father's eyes and finally snapped jealousy over Gavin's relationship with his dad.

    #tips
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    11/24/09

    @Tattertotter: @SanFranLefty:
    thanks for the replies.
    restating the obvious: family and money - deadly combo
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    11/24/09

    @Tattertotter: Art Agnos was boss. But made few friends.
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Disappointed with the press? But you used to like them SOOOO much! You've changed, Mr. Mayor. I feel like I don't even know you anymore.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Maybe he's going to go rogue with Sarah Palin.
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    11/23/09

    @Swifter: I'm thinking he's having a bad graft vs. host reaction due to the hair.
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    11/23/09

    @Swifter: Speaking of which, does Ms. Palin realize that the definition of rogue is "a dishonest, knavish person; scoundrel"? Or is she just too mavericky to need a dictionary?
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    11/23/09

    @Atilla the Bun: GVH is a real and horrible disease, much like TBA, so please don't mock it :)
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    11/24/09

    @mattfour: I forgot about the "TBA" charity for a second and thought I had offended an actual person whose hair transplant was attacking them.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    The opening is so bizarre. Plante asks him where he's been and he immediately responds "$522.2 million shortfall." The whole thing is nearly that weird. Does he get the hiccups in the middle? Newsom has always denied the coke rumors, but this interview certainly raises questions again.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    I'm tired of defending Newsom, but Plante was badgering him pretty badly- bringing up an ugly cartoon of Newsom as a squalling baby? Really, you want him to comment on that?

    Our own Dear Mayor jets off to his houses in the Carribean and London for days at a time every month, fiercely tells reporters his 4 day weekends are none of the press's business. There's no story here, and I look forward to the next SF mayor where the bitching will begin all over again, whomever it is.
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    11/23/09

    @Baroness: That's not the point. The issue was how Newsom handled that particular line of questioning. Those questions will always be asked, fair or not, and he knows that. Why he decided to act like a petulant prick in front of a news camera is beyond me.
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    11/23/09

    @pepelicious: So in other words, the media exists only to force politicians to demonstrate their fitness in dodging media questions? Sounds like a great purpose for existing!

    I don't know what ill will people from SF do (or don't) harbor for Newsom, but I gotta say, I feel sorry for him after seeing this. The interviewer clearly knew he was digging for something beyond the public interest here. And I think it's a savvy move on Newsom's part. Give the media blueballs and then get all the empty questions out of the way in a single interview, instead of answering inane questions about "how it feels to lose" for months. As awkward as it might seem, he probably "won" this moment, because it turns out there's nothing particularly suspicious about his absence (or even "absent" about his absence, really), and he's made it clear that he won't deal with any more questions about it.
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    11/23/09

    @skt.smth: No, but that is a part of how the press and politicians keep each other honest. We wouldn't have known about Gavin's disappearance unless it was reported by the press. It definitely wouldn't be an issue.

    So why would the press latch on to this non-story? I don't know the details, but it seems like a great way to get Newsom's attention (and let him know we are certainly paying attention to him).

    It might not mean much to someone who doesn't live in SF, but there's zero leadership right now.
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    11/23/09

    @pepelicious: I think that, in this case, there's a clear discrepancy between the public interest and the media interest. They didn't get their saucy little "story" after Newsom withdrew from the gubernatorial race (in other words, he ignored them), so they trumped up this myth about him not appearing in public and going off to Hawaii in order to sob about his failed campaign. Sure, he didn't give them anything better to work with, but if it's true that he was at 60-something public events over the last 3 weeks (as he said in the video), and that he only went to Hawaii for 2 days, with his family, it seems pretty clear to me that the media circus surrounding his "seclusion" is simply fabricated. It would seem that the media knew Newsom hadn't "disappeared," and yet they played up that angle because they were pissed about not getting him on the record about being a loser. I don't think that a media vendetta qualifies as "in the public interest" here.
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    11/24/09

    @skt.smth: Sound bites, my friend. How difficult would it have been for Newsom to toss off a few pithy remarks to keep the scribes at bay? Yet he cries because someone took his toys away. And we find out who Newsom really is.. a little boy finding out that he's playing a man's game.

    I think it's funny that you downplay the power of myth in the public eye. How do you think Newsom got elected in the first place?
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    11/24/09

    @pepelicious: Here's my point. I think it's great when "the scribes" are persistent about covering things that are of public interest. That's their role. But the legitimate media cheapens itself--becomes no better than the tabloids--when it obviously chases a story out of spite, and then hides behind its watchdog status in order to justify that. I wouldn't even particularly care if they'd just been up front about it, but I find it laughable that they'd even attempt to paint this as a simple public interest story.

    Yes, you're correct. This is "how it works" with the media. Sure. But there's a difference between noting how the system functions, and making justifications for it functioning that way. I'm not denying that the media works this way. I'm criticizing those who think that this reality is its own justification.
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    10/31/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Biden was the most inscrutable choice, ever, for VP. Instead of "change" Obama brought out an old hack, who had trouble with both truth telling, even during the campaign, and with inserting his foot into his mouth. Oh, to know what kind of negotiation that was, to get him on the ticket---except, perhaps to allay terrified old white guys who feared a woman and a (half)black man on the ticket would bring on the apocalypse. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Joe Biden is everything thats wrong and fucked up with congress. This dope won his seat in the Senate when he was 29 and has never had another job until being VP. He has learned about as much about how the country works from his perch in DC as Palin learned about Russia from staring at it. He is walking proof we need term limits.

    And he doesn't drink. I don't trust people who don't drink, unless they've already been alcoholics. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Why is it that I feel compelled to defend Gawker's subject matter against the editors/writers at least once a day lately?

    Either this new crop of staff writers is utterly fucked, or the editorial direction has taken a nosedive, or both.

    Is there some negative correlation between the quality of stories and the quality of AJAX/CSS? #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    @Motoko Kusanagi: From where I'm standing, it would appear to be a positive correlation. It's a good day when I get tripped up by fewer than five unresponsive scripts, infinite waits for comments to load or what have you. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    @romulus: The site gets prettier, and the content gets lamer. Just callin it as I see it. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    @Motoko Kusanagi: Oh yeah, I didn't mean to quibble. I agree that the site gets fancier all the time, but features seem to break often. I should have added before that it could well be my OS and browser causing headaches most readers don't experience. And in all fairness, I haven't been reading long enough to judge contemporary content against the past. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Not sure what point you're trying to make, Amrita... that you think Cheney's worldview makes some sense? That Cheney was initially popular, before everything he did brought his popularity rating to a low of 28%? I love it that Biden is willing to call a moron a moron. This is a ridiculous post. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    Oh, and if you're trying to poke fun at Vice Prez Biden for weeping during the debate when he spoke about his first wife and baby daughter who died, well then, that's just messed up. #joebiden
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    10/31/09

    @Conchie Birdie: One might argue that it was the worst kind of political hackdom for him to bring them up expressly to show his "empathy" side and try to squeeze a tear out of his plastic-surgeryized eye slots. #joebiden
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    10/30/09

    In reply to Nobody Loves Weepy VP Joe
    I'm absolutely NOT a supporter of ANYTHING Dick says... but, Good Lawwd, Biden, Bin Laden will always BE a part of the issue. I'm sorry, I guess if you had the prez saying this I could understand... but, uh, Joe? Nope.

    That being said, why are we posting crap from Fox News anyway - I thought we weren't supposed to take this stuff seriously?
    #joebiden
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