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    Image of SanFranLefty SanFranLefty
    11/24/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Publisher of our local fish wrap/Sharon Stone's ex piles on Mayor McDreamy and his demands to dictate all press interviews:

    [www.sfgate.com]
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    11/24/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    "But then, when it was time to talk about the city's finance problem, Newsom seemed out of patience." Gee... you think?
    And his off the record comments being broadcast, despite the anchor and reporter's lame attempts to justify, simply demonstrates a lack of professionalism and a lack of integrity.
    Newsom has been good for that city, both politically and in terms of public relations. He has his shortcomings, as do we all, but he does not deserve to be raked over the coals by this Fox News wannabe.
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    Image of SanFranLefty SanFranLefty
    11/24/09

    @erebekah: He hasn't been too great for this city for those of us who are actual residents and remember his campaign promises and see the lack of concrete action because he's too busy jetting off to Davos to talk about his biodiesel limousine, while the unsolved murder rate skyrockets and 11 year old kids coming home from school on Muni are stabbed by psycho homeless guys.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Obviously an ambush in the greatest tradition of Couric/Palin. For shame main stream media!
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    Image of TheSometimesWhy TheSometimesWhy
    11/24/09

    @ngonzogo: Isn't it funny how you Palin supporters refer to any instance in which Ms. Palin makes an ass out of her self (which is to say whenever she opens her mouth) as an ambush?

    And making the "mainstream media" the fall guy for your alleged ambush is like blaming the trees for a forest fire.

    If there is shame to go around here, Champ, take a look in the mirror...
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    Image of Sleepyhead Sleepyhead
    11/24/09

    @TheSometimesWhy: Sarcasm recognition fail.
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    11/24/09

    @TheSometimesWhy: /headslap
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    11/24/09

    @Sleepyhead: Next time I put on the red nose and floppy feet first.
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    11/24/09

    @Sleepyhead: With all due respect and contrition, I don't feel the least bit bad about not catching ngonzogo's sarcasm. I think it's because I have ODd on people voicing sentiments with that exact pitch/tone, and neutron microscopes couldn't find any sarcasm, irony, fill-in-the-subtext-of-your choice in those posts.

    Another casualty of the state of the republic--sarcasm has been rendered moot.



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    11/24/09

    @ngonzogo: No need, ngonzogo. Please read above with my sincere apology for pouncing inappropriately.

    Although it occurs to me that a red nose and floppy feet are rarely a bad fashion choice...
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    Image of Iamdoingit Iamdoingit
    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    I actually liked him with the gay stuff but he did get all obnoxious and the office affair was tacky and sad.

    Also, you need to post an update Pareene as he has basically become obsessed with tweeting every damn public event he steps foot in.

    [twitter.com]

    I swear he is going to drop a letter at the post office and write about the wonderful work those brave carriers are doing. Relax brah.
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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    11/24/09

    @Iamdoingit: It would have been spectacular had Newsom had the presence of mind to say, "I tweet every damn public event I step in, Woodward. Why not earn the Pulitzer for investigative journalism by uncovering where I've been by - I donno - subscribing?!"
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    Image of MessiahsHandle MessiahsHandle
    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Oh no! He didn't "Mount Kilauea" or "Scale Diamond Head" did he? I seriously hope he's not stuck his penis in the pu pu platter cause aside for the odd behavior of recent, I like the guy. Plus he's hot as far as mayors are concerned.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Palin Newsom 2012.
    Their slogan: We're totlly clueless but look great on TV.
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    That newscast seems appropriately shit for SF.
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    Image of Tattertotter Tattertotter
    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    What people have to realize is that Gavin has gotten by his whole life on his looks and his social connections. While not wealthy himself, he grew up pals with the Getty boys, neither of whom speak to him now. Gordon Getty, their father, supported Gavin's political aspirations in the beginning and even financed his first big house in SF--but that support, too, is now weak and for the first time Gavin has to GROW UP and quit acting like the little bitch punk he's always been under that smooth exterior. He doesn't have the kind of money to life the lifestyle that he was raised around so he figured politics & power would get it for him--wrong! I used to love the guy, but now I can't stand his petty gutless immaturity.
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    11/23/09

    @Tattertotter: "petty gutless immaturity" - I hope you don't mind if I shamelessly use this awesome comment as my own this holiday?
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    11/23/09

    @Tattertotter: was wondering why he couldn't raise "enough" money for the gov spot.
    what caused the break up with the getty family?
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    Image of yojeezy yojeezy
    11/24/09

    @Tattertotter: You really nailed it with this description. But tell me how, with all this insight, you actually used to "love the guy?"
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    Image of SanFranLefty SanFranLefty
    11/24/09

    @swedishcouscous: Breakup with Billy Getty was over women and money, the usual.

    [www.sfgate.com]
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    11/24/09

    @yojeezy: His courageous support of LGBT rights/same-sex marriage and his efforts (failed) to solve SF's huge homeless problem made him a very attractive mayor at first. SF hadn't had a decent mayor since Feinstein went to Washington, so Gavin looked pretty good there for a while. Too good to be true in fact.


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    11/24/09

    @swedishcouscous: Most of the people in a position to know have claimed that Gordon Getty favored Gavin--personally and financially--over his own sons, especially Billy who has always been his father's favorite son and also his biggest disappointment. Billy and Gavin bought some property together with support from Gordon, Billy changed his mind and wanted out, but his father sided with Gavin and all but wiped-out Billy's investment. I think Billy knows he's just a fuck-up in his father's eyes and finally snapped jealousy over Gavin's relationship with his dad.

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    11/24/09

    @Tattertotter: @SanFranLefty:
    thanks for the replies.
    restating the obvious: family and money - deadly combo
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    11/24/09

    @Tattertotter: Art Agnos was boss. But made few friends.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    [hasgavinnewsomresignedyet.com]
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Disappointed with the press? But you used to like them SOOOO much! You've changed, Mr. Mayor. I feel like I don't even know you anymore.
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    Image of pegolas71 pegolas71
    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Can we stop with the negativity and focus on what's important here: his total dreaminess.
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    Maybe he's going to go rogue with Sarah Palin.
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    Image of Atilla the Bun Atilla the Bun
    11/23/09

    @Swifter: I'm thinking he's having a bad graft vs. host reaction due to the hair.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    11/23/09

    @Swifter: Speaking of which, does Ms. Palin realize that the definition of rogue is "a dishonest, knavish person; scoundrel"? Or is she just too mavericky to need a dictionary?
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    Image of mattfour mattfour
    11/23/09

    @Atilla the Bun: GVH is a real and horrible disease, much like TBA, so please don't mock it :)
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    11/24/09

    @mattfour: I forgot about the "TBA" charity for a second and thought I had offended an actual person whose hair transplant was attacking them.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    The opening is so bizarre. Plante asks him where he's been and he immediately responds "$522.2 million shortfall." The whole thing is nearly that weird. Does he get the hiccups in the middle? Newsom has always denied the coke rumors, but this interview certainly raises questions again.
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    11/23/09

    In reply to What the Hell's Wrong with Gavin Newsom?
    I'm tired of defending Newsom, but Plante was badgering him pretty badly- bringing up an ugly cartoon of Newsom as a squalling baby? Really, you want him to comment on that?

    Our own Dear Mayor jets off to his houses in the Carribean and London for days at a time every month, fiercely tells reporters his 4 day weekends are none of the press's business. There's no story here, and I look forward to the next SF mayor where the bitching will begin all over again, whomever it is.
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    Image of pepelicious pepelicious
    11/23/09

    @Baroness: That's not the point. The issue was how Newsom handled that particular line of questioning. Those questions will always be asked, fair or not, and he knows that. Why he decided to act like a petulant prick in front of a news camera is beyond me.
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    11/23/09

    @pepelicious: So in other words, the media exists only to force politicians to demonstrate their fitness in dodging media questions? Sounds like a great purpose for existing!

    I don't know what ill will people from SF do (or don't) harbor for Newsom, but I gotta say, I feel sorry for him after seeing this. The interviewer clearly knew he was digging for something beyond the public interest here. And I think it's a savvy move on Newsom's part. Give the media blueballs and then get all the empty questions out of the way in a single interview, instead of answering inane questions about "how it feels to lose" for months. As awkward as it might seem, he probably "won" this moment, because it turns out there's nothing particularly suspicious about his absence (or even "absent" about his absence, really), and he's made it clear that he won't deal with any more questions about it.
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    11/23/09

    @skt.smth: No, but that is a part of how the press and politicians keep each other honest. We wouldn't have known about Gavin's disappearance unless it was reported by the press. It definitely wouldn't be an issue.

    So why would the press latch on to this non-story? I don't know the details, but it seems like a great way to get Newsom's attention (and let him know we are certainly paying attention to him).

    It might not mean much to someone who doesn't live in SF, but there's zero leadership right now.
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    11/23/09

    @pepelicious: I think that, in this case, there's a clear discrepancy between the public interest and the media interest. They didn't get their saucy little "story" after Newsom withdrew from the gubernatorial race (in other words, he ignored them), so they trumped up this myth about him not appearing in public and going off to Hawaii in order to sob about his failed campaign. Sure, he didn't give them anything better to work with, but if it's true that he was at 60-something public events over the last 3 weeks (as he said in the video), and that he only went to Hawaii for 2 days, with his family, it seems pretty clear to me that the media circus surrounding his "seclusion" is simply fabricated. It would seem that the media knew Newsom hadn't "disappeared," and yet they played up that angle because they were pissed about not getting him on the record about being a loser. I don't think that a media vendetta qualifies as "in the public interest" here.
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    11/24/09

    @skt.smth: Sound bites, my friend. How difficult would it have been for Newsom to toss off a few pithy remarks to keep the scribes at bay? Yet he cries because someone took his toys away. And we find out who Newsom really is.. a little boy finding out that he's playing a man's game.

    I think it's funny that you downplay the power of myth in the public eye. How do you think Newsom got elected in the first place?
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    11/24/09

    @pepelicious: Here's my point. I think it's great when "the scribes" are persistent about covering things that are of public interest. That's their role. But the legitimate media cheapens itself--becomes no better than the tabloids--when it obviously chases a story out of spite, and then hides behind its watchdog status in order to justify that. I wouldn't even particularly care if they'd just been up front about it, but I find it laughable that they'd even attempt to paint this as a simple public interest story.

    Yes, you're correct. This is "how it works" with the media. Sure. But there's a difference between noting how the system functions, and making justifications for it functioning that way. I'm not denying that the media works this way. I'm criticizing those who think that this reality is its own justification.
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    10/05/09

    In reply to Ghostface Gives Example of What Could Have Inspired His New Album, Hypothetically
    Best line - "GK: ...based around storytelling. It's poetry... you got situations where you bump into a pregnant girl, but she's so pretty, and you wish you could have her, but she's pregnant and she's married."

    Love it - so if she was just pregnant, or just married, go for it! But pregnant and married, whoa, slow down...
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