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    Image of random_play random_play
    12/09/09

    In reply to Google Phones Too Geeky for Google's Fahionista
    A decent photo of Marissa Mayer.

    Also, she actually does have feet.
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    12/09/09

    In reply to Google Phones Too Geeky for Google's Fahionista
    Dear assholes making comments about Marisa Mayer’s looks:

    This is not good. Clothes, maybe. But comments about her face and body?

    Also, it seems you do this only or mainly when it’s about a woman. So stop being sexist.

    Cheers,

    iplaudius
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    Image of PontiusPirate PontiusPirate
    12/09/09

    @iplaudius: Hey iplaudius, show us your tits!!!
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    Image of Sabbatai Sabbatai
    12/09/09

    @iplaudius: She's actually pretty cute in most pictures. This one is just a bad pic.

    Regardless it IS true that this really only happens with posts about women.

    You know that this is only because everyone making these comments is God's gift to beauty, right?
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    12/09/09

    @Sabbatai: I know, I can only imagine, how hot they all must be.

    And I really should show them my “tits.”
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    Image of Hey_mikey Hey_mikey
    12/09/09

    @iplaudius: Well, I'll make no judgments about Marisa's face or body. But when men are short, or bald, or have small penises, women are all too happy to joke about these facts as though men choose to be hairless, short and poorly endowed. More importantly, the attitude is one of laughable fault, as though, had they studied more in high school, they too would have fit the standards of the women discussing them. I'm not suggesting that patriarchy doesn't exist and that we should try not to be douchebags when discussing women. All I'm saying is that, women do it all the time.
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    iplaudius promoted this comment Hey_mikey was starred Hey_mikey was unstarred
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    12/09/09

    @Hey_mikey: Sure there are women who do this. It is no where near as prevalent as the boy's sneers toward pretty much any woman who isn't a supermodel ..and even some of those.

    I may have misspoken when saying it ONLY happens when it is about women.

    Everyone has opinions but I really believe most women handle the dissemination of those opinions much better than most men.

    Either way it is annoying. I hate people who "people watch" in real life just as much as I dislike the people who do so through the Internet.
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    iplaudius promoted this comment Sabbatai was starred Sabbatai was unstarred
    Image of josiemacarthur002 josiemacarthur002
    12/09/09

    @iplaudius: I swear valleywag used to go out of their way to post derogatory stories of female silicon valley execs, who always happened to be blond.

    The posts were like crack for sad cubicle farm tech worker-bee guys with chips on their shoulders and nothing cleverer to say than "show us yer tits"

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    iplaudius promoted this comment josiemacarthur002 was starred josiemacarthur002 was unstarred
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    12/09/09

    @Hey_mikey: The point is, on this site, these types of insults are far more frequently hurled at women.

    Perhaps it is to be expected when the subject is a woman such as Julia Allison, whose interest and social identity are in large part defined by her appearance and sexuality. Mayer, by contrast, is interesting because of what she is doing with Google.

    People rarely go after men of Mayer’s professional stature—or, if not stature, notoriety. I can’t recall a pattern of looks-based insults in, say, the comments on articles on Peter Thiel, Sergey Brin, Rupert Murdoch, or, for that matter, Luke Russert or George Stephanopoulos. That is the sexist bias: people tend not to make such comments about men, but they frequently make such comments about women like Marisa Mayer.

    There is an exception: male subjects typically get criticized for their looks only when they draw attention to their looks or sexuality: e.g., Scott Brown, John Fitzgerald Page, and Paul Janka.
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    12/09/09

    In reply to Google Phones Too Geeky for Google's Fahionista
    What is going on down by her feet? Are those moon boots? Is she experiencing some sever swelling? Are her feet actually just puffy, fleshy blobs?
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    12/09/09

    In reply to Google Phones Too Geeky for Google's Fahionista
    THE POWER OF STEVE COMPELS YOU.
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    Image of Dare To No Dare To No
    12/09/09

    In reply to Google Phones Too Geeky for Google's Fahionista
    I see the Gawker editors' contest to see who can post the most unflattering photo of Marissa Mayer is still running strong. Did she big-time Denton at a new media conference or something?
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    Ryan Tate promoted this comment Dare To No was starred Dare To No was unstarred
    Image of Ryan Tate Ryan Tate
    12/09/09

    @Dare To No: You got a better pic of her with an iPhone? Under Creative Commons or on Getty, AP? Feel to share!
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    Image of Nick Douglas Nick Douglas
    12/09/09

    The photo's perfect. The force-grown clones are just getting more imperfect with each harvest.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    12/09/09

    In reply to Google Phones Too Geeky for Google's Fahionista
    I'm off to conduct an experiment. Having loaded Google Goggle onto my Droid, I'm going to photograph an IPhone and see if's recognized. Don't blame me should flames start shooting out of the circuitry at Cern.
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    Image of Brad Brown Brad Brown
    12/09/09

    In reply to Google Phones Too Geeky for Google's Fahionista
    Can't you airbrush her photos before publication, and maybe add some soft-light filtering along with digital weight loss, the way Glamour magazine does?
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    Image of goetz goetz
    12/09/09

    @Brad Brown: Gonna need more than that to make that outfit work.
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    Uncle_Billy_Slumming promoted this comment goetz was starred goetz was unstarred
    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    12/09/09

    @goetz:

    That's her leotard look. Classy!
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    Image of goetz goetz
    12/09/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: Something tard for sure.
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    Image of GlasgowRose GlasgowRose
    12/09/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: She was speaking in Paris -- les francais love that lycra look, so pretty savvy of MM, I'd say.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    12/09/09

    @GlasgowRose:

    I would like more Western Europeans to visit the United States. It's so nice to see how they dress, for the most part.
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    12/09/09

    In reply to 'Good Morning America': Now With 100% More Minorities!
    Good morning, Gigi. Good morning, JuJu. No-no, NuNu!
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    Image of LUV_TRUK LUV_TRUK
    09/23/09

    In reply to Chinese People Loved Ching-Chong iPhone App, Says Programmer
    Some of my best friends are Chinamen!
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    Image of jpee jpee
    09/23/09

    In reply to Chinese People Loved Ching-Chong iPhone App, Says Programmer
    I heard some Chinese nerds are making some iphone app called "Fat" with a Chinese person faking to speak with an American accent in Chinese. Instead of a fortune cookie, you get a big mac. Yikes.
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    Image of CaptainFantastic CaptainFantastic
    09/23/09

    @jplaid: I'd buy that!
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    Image of psybab psybab
    09/22/09

    In reply to Everything Annoying in the Universe in One iPhone App
    A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Douchebaggery
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    Image of blix blix
    09/23/09

    @psybab: +1
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    Image of native_67 native_67
    09/22/09

    In reply to Chinese People Loved Ching-Chong iPhone App, Says Programmer
    Is this really the state of hyper-sensitivity to which our society has come? Some guy gets an idea for a harmless app and takes a shot at doing voiceover with a Chinese accent and all hell breaks loose. Being of Native American decent, I could find offense in things far more disturbing than this -- as they pertain to my heritage -- if I felt the need to scream "racism" at every perceived slight perpetrated on my culture. The reality is we live in a world where everyone is different. Why is so much effort put into condemning anything that highlights those differences? I could understand the outrage if there was a blatant effort to intentionally demean another culture, but it's obvious no slight was intended by the developer. If the intent was to be racist, I can think of several more creative names for the app than Lucky Fortune. Read what the developer said in the letter above. It's supposed to be fun and inject a little levity and maybe inspiration into our lives -- which some of you could obviously use. I'm guessing, most of the outraged posters haven't even looked at the app for themselves. I went ahead and spent the 99 cents to check it out before passing judgement. To me it was worth the expense to at least have an informed opinion.
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    Image of The Fake Santa Claus The Fake Santa Claus
    09/23/09

    @native_67: I don't find caricatures and dated stereotypes of one's ethnic background "inspiring." The base idea of this app is harmless, but the "Chinese music jingle" and the "wise Chinese man" voice (as described at the app store in iTunes) kills it. It's a typical, passive-aggressive, casual ignorance towards the respect of real Chinese culture and the Chinese-American experience. Tailor made for the kind of mindset that thinks hearing a gong every time an Asian person walks into a room is funny.
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    Image of hilikusopus hilikusopus
    09/23/09

    @The Fake Santa Claus: What exactly was negative about the app? Should the creator have maybe used an atypical Chinese-American voiceover, say, a California valley-girl accent to pay homage to the Chinese immigrants who came to California during the 1800s in search of railroad work? Would it have been racist to use a sample of Yo-yo Ma, or is that too stereotypical in some way?

    "It's a typical, passive-aggressive, casual ignorance towards the respect of real Chinese culture...."

    Why must this one thing be about a deep seated respect for culture, and not about a fortune cookie gag -- fortune cookies aren't even Chinese? Could we pay too much respect to real Chinese culture -- for example, the Cultural Revolution, foot binding, one-child policy, censorship, China's treatment of Tibet or Vietnam?
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    Image of The Fake Santa Claus The Fake Santa Claus
    09/23/09

    @hilikusopus: Why couldn't the voiceover have been of someone who just talks straight up instead of a juvenile, low-impact racist affectation of what a "wise Chinese man" is supposed to sound like? Why couldn't the music background have been of something authentic and classical using liuqin and dizi instead of a tired-assed, stereotypical "Chinese music jingle?" It's a lazy, disposable, laugh-now-think-later, frat boy beer bar approach to defining ethnic "culture" as dictated by someone who isn't a part of that and thinks certain icons like cheongsams and chopsticks are all you'll ever need to say, "Now THAT'S Asian!"

    It's like when you watch a Yankee game and Hideki Matsui steps up to bat and strikes out. Depending on where you are or the company around you, out come the samurai impressions and the bad pidgin english. "Ooooaaaaaa. I stlike out! I must commit halakili!" Hilarity ensues. It's all in good-natured, harmless, jokesy fun of people of a different ethnic background and culture who talk funny. This app is made for that crowd. No, it doesn't mean we should all go out and do a march on Washington or whatever. But let's call out laziness for what it is instead of giving it a pass.
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    Image of hilikusopus hilikusopus
    09/23/09

    @The Fake Santa Claus: Okay. I think you're mischaracterizing how this app, and the people who do not take offense with it, fits into the larger picture of racism in America. I'm a little disappointed that you chose not to address any of the questions I posed. We can agree that racism, ignorance, and zenophobia are problems but it may be a matter of taste when it comes to how you and I and others feel about something like this. To me, there is nothing inherently racist about a Chinese voice and that stupid song. It's just what you said it is: a useless, harmless, juvenile gag. I challenge you to name one negative stereotype (or a positive one, for that matter) that this application reinforces.
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    celery promoted this comment hilikusopus was starred hilikusopus was unstarred
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    09/23/09

    @hilikusopus: I think you're being purposely dense here. This is not a Chinese voice. This a caricature of a Chinese voice. It has the same effect as any other offensive stereotype: to reinforce that a group of people are different, their differences make them inferior, and that their inferiority is worthy of derision.

    No one busts out this kind of Chinese accent in an effort to accurately represent Chinese people; at best, they do it for cheap laughs at the expense of the Chinese, at worst, it's a product of real xenophobia.

    As people have said, this is far from the most offensive app in the world, but I wouldn't bother trying to defend it.

    As for the song, I think that's fallen out of favor more for the company it keeps. You could make an argument that it marginalizes thousands of years of Chinese musical tradition, but like I said, why bother?
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    Image of hilikusopus hilikusopus
    09/23/09

    @celery: By the same token, "Chinese" fortune cookies are racist: they were never a part of real Chinese culture, since they're an American invention, but they reinforce the stereotype that the Chinese are steeped in mysticism and irrational behavior, as well as the "wise Chinaman" stereotype, as Ryan Tate put it. But it's just a cookie with a stupid fun fortune stuck in it.

    The argument that things like this are symptomatic of systemic racism is not entirely lost on me but, like you said, why bother? Pick your battles. I would further argue hyper political correctness is the other side of the close-minded coin: a quickness to judge the moral character of somebody based on this garbage app or anything else can be just as detrimental to a productive discussion about racism.

    At bottom, it seems to me that, while the criticism of this thing is justifiable at some level, it's mostly the object of misplaced scorn for real racism -- the thing becomes racism incarnate for some people: "I really hate racism, this thing seems like it has racial overtones, this thing is really racist and I hate it." It's understandable to me, I just think it's a somewhat misplaced. If we were talking about, say, a Congressman making a deplorable racist comment, or the "Obama's a muslim" nonsense, I'd be right there with you.
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    Image of 1Lmonster 1Lmonster
    09/22/09

    In reply to Chinese People Loved Ching-Chong iPhone App, Says Programmer
    they dont even have fortune cookies in china...who cares?
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    Image of birthdaycake birthdaycake
    09/23/09

    @1Lmonster: those things are pretty nasty. who actually EATS fortune cookies?
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    Image of CaptainFantastic CaptainFantastic
    09/23/09

    @birthdaycake: Some of them actually taste good.
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    Image of nathanieljames nathanieljames
    09/22/09

    In reply to Chinese People Loved Ching-Chong iPhone App, Says Programmer
    This app isn't going to change the fact that I, an Asian, will continue to make fun of people of all races...and the people who would allow such a shoddily executed app to exist on their personal phone.
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