I don't want to play down the loss to his family. He was loved and will be missed by those who knew him, regardless of the choices that lead to his death. But I would love to see this amount of heated back-and-forth dialogue linked to the next 27 year-old American kid that dies in one of our on-going wars.
Did he really tag the Brooklyn Bridge? Why did he do it there?
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Wow, that raises interesting questions regarding the heightened relevance society places on historical architectural preservation; and in 35 minutes of 'tagging', the artist challenges society to consider whether any public structure can truly be considered worthy of the sanction of reverence and . . .
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I just hope that ugly stain (not even pretty graffiti!) on the last stone suspension bridge the world will likely ever build was easy to remove.
Collectors believed this would happen. I'm sorry to say it's part of the reason his work sold. He'll be canonized now, and their cynicism will really pay off. It's all a huge waste. Terrible for his daughter.
Hamilton, in all seriousness, I want to ask you about the editorial purpose of this statement. What kind of criticism are you trying to preempt? To me this veers into the territory of "doth protests too much," which sort of ruins, for me at least, any possibility that jerking off on newspapers is any less of a mediocre artistic gesture when it's done with self-awareness. You're undermining yourself if you mean to honor him.
@minou: Even more annoyingly, self-consciously meta is the video where he jerks off onto a projection of that text reading "How much talent does it really take to come* on the New York Post, anyway?" Truly mediocre art, even if you ignore his derivative moves.
That said, of course I'm sad he's dead, but not because I won't have to endure a handful of old haggard acolytes orgasming over his version of "youth culture" anytime he 'innovates' another cumrag.
*It must be said, however, I'm *super* impressed by the restraint used in not spelling it with a u.
@Hamilton Nolan: Yes, I got that. I still think your remark does a disservice to whatever artistic integrity that piece had to begin with, since it appears here more like an apology than anything. Let the work itself tell us what we need to know about it, you know? I'm just nitpicking at this point though, I guess, and the relative merit of his work is a pretty volatile topic around here, so maybe I should shut-up.
Yes and of course someone, somewhere will argue that Nan Goldin's work documenting social deviancy was better when Larry Clark beat her to it and did it first.
But seriously, the whole criticism of "I liked it better when___did it first!" is so tiresome. I think it has more to do with the person delivering the criticism letting everyone know that his/her grasp of art runs deep, even deeper than that of the artist
@SlantedAndDisenchanted: I was actually talking about the specific form of the grid of polaroids of young beautiful people set up in a certain way that suggests a network of friendships, loves, transgressions, etc, which, yeah, a lot of people do everything and Nan Goldin was really well known for doing that thing. And instead of adding to it, or quoting it, or subverting it, that piece by Snow just copied it.
Knowing and talking about the genealogy of a certain piece, and how it relates to its influences isn't showing off, it's criticism. But turning every piece of criticism around to become an ad hominem attack on the character of the critic is a really good way to shut down dialogue, if that's what you're after. I guess you really showed me.
I think he'll be remembered as more of a muse than an artist--and I don't mean that derisively. Those hotel gerbil parties will probably keep his legend alive for a while--that and photos like this one by Ryan McGinley. RIP.
@Dr. Nick: They basically already did that at Deitch a few years ago. They recreated the gerbil party in a gallery. It was okay, but it's much more interesting to me as weird folklore than as art. Btw, here's a second try at that McGinley image.
@Steverino Begins: Thanks for the pic. I must admit I disliked Snow's work, and hated that NYMag article that put them on the map, for good or ill.
But that's a beautiful photo, I remembered it, and it illustrates that what Snow was trying to do- although not to my taste- was a bit of youth and daring. NOT addressing me, addressing his age group. Things we forget when we grow up. We all want to be daring aesthetes and artists when young, a Romantic ideal. Youth re-invents this angsty cycle, as if it had never been thought before.
Snow had the means and access and family connections to become what he wanted. Now that he's dead, I wonder why he wanted it. To flirt with death via drugs, as the young rich historically have- I can't say I respect the life choices. Or wanting to be a legend in a tacky rock n roll way.
Dash Snow seems to have placed a premium on being seen as maximum cool, maximum street cred, going further with drugs than anyone else, this hipster ideal of oblivion. The dude used to do coke with his father- what the fuck with that. I'm sorry he's gone, what a waste.
Just not keen on this idea of glamorous destruction, which seemed an endemic "upper-class" habit in artistic circles in my yoof. Nothing glam about being a slave to drugs, or an early death. Damned sad, but there it is.
It's always a little disconcerting and a lot awful for me to read about somebody my age dying like this. Addiction is horrible, what a waste, peace to thy gentle shade, etc. Let's set that aside for a moment.
What always bothered me about Snow was that although his art was about as conceptually shallow or studiedly "edgy" as much of what you'd find at undergrad art programs anywhere in the U.S., his New York connections as a scion of privilege allowed him to parlay his pretty ordinary and uninteresting art into downtown pseudo-celebrity.
And in the [i]New York[/i] profile from a way back and other things I've read, there were hints that he was self-aware to the point that he understood this.
The fantastic thing about buying Dash Snow's artwork is that a simple DNA test of the semen or urine embedded into the picture can prove the authenticity of the artwork!
To sum up, then, this kind of death is tragic regardless to whom it happens, especially for family and friends. Yet, in retrospect, it is also clear that he sowed the seed of his own destruction.
@SidAndFinancy: And it's nothing new. Deeply sorry for his family and his mother, but people with means who get themselves into trouble let's say irritate me a bit. There's a thread going on over on Jezebel about an Intervention episode, and a lot of people point out that most families can only afford good quality drug therapy with outside help. I knew a bunch of the rich kid druggie bunch back in the 80's in NY. There are sadder cases to mourn, gifted or not.
I didn't know Dash, but I know the scene he hung out in and I know the type of people, and actually know some of the people he hung out with. What sucks is that these super-cool people can do nothing but give each other endless handjobs. Everything and everyone is always great. It's all cool. It's all good. The worst thing you can do in these circles of "friends" is to interject a little criticism or point out that someone is fucking up... if you do you are shunned. So here's to all Dashes friends that didn't have the guts to tell him he was fucking his life away on junk!
@Id_Molotov: I was thinking about this as I was out for a walk in the park. I've seen too many in this crowd of artists party along with the addict. As long as you're fun enough to party with and you get some reflected glory, nobody will say an uncool word to them. Oh, they might send him home or leave when they get too messy to be anymore fun, but they'll just do it all again with them the next day. And they're the first ones to say they miss their dearly lost friend and miss the point entirely. If you are their friend, you'd tell them to stop, you wouldn't enable them and you'd try to help.
The Times reports that Christophe de Menil, his grandmother, has confirmed it. And that he had been in rehab as recently as March. Very sad. It looks like he might have been at least trying to kick the habit.
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Waitaminute.
Wow, that raises interesting questions regarding the heightened relevance society places on historical architectural preservation; and in 35 minutes of 'tagging', the artist challenges society to consider whether any public structure can truly be considered worthy of the sanction of reverence and . . .
um . . .
. . . I lost my stream of post-grad bullshit
I just hope that ugly stain (not even pretty graffiti!) on the last stone suspension bridge the world will likely ever build was easy to remove.
Sorry, RIP and all that, but still.
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Hamilton, in all seriousness, I want to ask you about the editorial purpose of this statement. What kind of criticism are you trying to preempt? To me this veers into the territory of "doth protests too much," which sort of ruins, for me at least, any possibility that jerking off on newspapers is any less of a mediocre artistic gesture when it's done with self-awareness. You're undermining yourself if you mean to honor him.
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That said, of course I'm sad he's dead, but not because I won't have to endure a handful of old haggard acolytes orgasming over his version of "youth culture" anytime he 'innovates' another cumrag.
*It must be said, however, I'm *super* impressed by the restraint used in not spelling it with a u.
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Yes and of course someone, somewhere will argue that Nan Goldin's work documenting social deviancy was better when Larry Clark beat her to it and did it first.
But seriously, the whole criticism of "I liked it better when___did it first!" is so tiresome. I think it has more to do with the person delivering the criticism letting everyone know that his/her grasp of art runs deep, even deeper than that of the artist
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Knowing and talking about the genealogy of a certain piece, and how it relates to its influences isn't showing off, it's criticism. But turning every piece of criticism around to become an ad hominem attack on the character of the critic is a really good way to shut down dialogue, if that's what you're after. I guess you really showed me.
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@Dr. Nick: They basically already did that at Deitch a few years ago. They recreated the gerbil party in a gallery. It was okay, but it's much more interesting to me as weird folklore than as art. Btw, here's a second try at that McGinley image.
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But that's a beautiful photo, I remembered it, and it illustrates that what Snow was trying to do- although not to my taste- was a bit of youth and daring. NOT addressing me, addressing his age group. Things we forget when we grow up. We all want to be daring aesthetes and artists when young, a Romantic ideal. Youth re-invents this angsty cycle, as if it had never been thought before.
Snow had the means and access and family connections to become what he wanted. Now that he's dead, I wonder why he wanted it. To flirt with death via drugs, as the young rich historically have- I can't say I respect the life choices. Or wanting to be a legend in a tacky rock n roll way.
Dash Snow seems to have placed a premium on being seen as maximum cool, maximum street cred, going further with drugs than anyone else, this hipster ideal of oblivion. The dude used to do coke with his father- what the fuck with that. I'm sorry he's gone, what a waste.
Just not keen on this idea of glamorous destruction, which seemed an endemic "upper-class" habit in artistic circles in my yoof. Nothing glam about being a slave to drugs, or an early death. Damned sad, but there it is.
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What always bothered me about Snow was that although his art was about as conceptually shallow or studiedly "edgy" as much of what you'd find at undergrad art programs anywhere in the U.S., his New York connections as a scion of privilege allowed him to parlay his pretty ordinary and uninteresting art into downtown pseudo-celebrity.
And in the [i]New York[/i] profile from a way back and other things I've read, there were hints that he was self-aware to the point that he understood this.
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