OK, I'm just going to be "That Person," but I really liked this. I thought it was funny, and it brings up some points that actually allowed the desegregation in the U.S. decades ago, the economy. I get that you all are pissed because it is too little too late, and I fucking hate the timing on this too, but at least something is being done. Unfortunately a lot of times people don't work toward something until it's taken away. It's a sad fact, but its true. A lot of activists have been saying that maybe this is just the right kick in the pants that people needed to see to make them recognize that gay rights is not something that will always be protected.
In short, this musical was funny and it's better late than never.
I am going to start my own country--Homoslavia. I will rule this country absolutely and allow a few token straights to hold symbolic positions in my cabinet and/or to complete necessary drudge work. I envision Donald Trump with a shaved head and a sweaty brow, mopping the floor with his wiglet. Anyone associated with past tokenism such as Queer Eye for the Straight Guy or annoying 2008 semi-closeted behavior a la Kevin Spacey will be sentenced to life in an underground chamber with no internet, cocaine or mirrors in front of my mansion facing beautiful Louise Fitzhugh Square.
@forwardmotion: Where do I fit in? I figure I'd be in same place there in ten years as I'll be in here: drinking High Life in my underwear while sitting in a kiddie pool.
Sanctimonius? A rather ironic description Richard since Gawker has exactly three posts on Prop 8. All after the fact. You should have left this one to your more clever brothers at Defamer.
@Midge Well, to be fair, we had two pre-election posts about it here and here. But you are right, we left it mostly to our sisters in California, Defamer.
Plus, we're not congratulating ourselves about anything.
@Richard: For those of us that are directly affected by the passing of Prop 8 this is no laughing matter. And for all of you that think it doesn't matter to you, just wait for the religious right and their moral-guiding machine to come after your rights.
The battle is far from over. No On 8 made some mistakes and I think this video makes a valiant attempt to address them. I believe that the absence of celebrity outcry before the election was intentional. It only invites ridicule and derision on the internet and distracts from the issue at hand. The fact that these "richies" actually took some of their valuable time out to create this is makes it all the more admirable and hardly ego-driven.
For all you knee-jerk commentators that complain it's not funny, I agree. But who cares? That's not really the point. This isn't some lame SNL skit that deserves ridicule. Get your heads out of the comment sandbox for a minute and ponder how this affects all of us, not just your snark-rating in the bowels of Gawker.
@Midge: Huhm. Okay. I'm interested in this because here you say:
I believe that the absence of celebrity outcry before the election was intentional.
This seems like you're saying that there are good, effective ways to support No on Prop 8, and to fight against the religious right and their evilness. And I agree with that, in principle.
But here you say:
complain it's not funny, I agree. But who cares? That's not really the point. This isn't some lame SNL skit that deserves ridicule.
And that seems like you're saying that we should support any effort on anyone's behalf, even if it's terrible. I guess, more precisely: what's changed? Why were celebrity voices detrimental before, and valuable now? Why were we worried about doing things pre-vote that looked ridiculous, but now we're supposed to pretend that nothing is ridiculous?
Also, I'm curious about this one:
The fact that these "richies" actually took some of their valuable time out to create this is makes it all the more admirable and hardly ego-driven.
How valuable is their time? I was under the impression that the point of being a rich celebrity was that you got to have more leisure than everyone else.
Moreover, aren't "ego-driven" ventures ones that pay you in self-satisfaction? Doesn't something in which you're sacrificing your valuable time (presuming that this was the case), indicate that you're getting a reward in some way other than monetary gain? In that case, something like this would seem like it was more ego-driven, rather than less.
@braak: All valid points. I'm not a writer. I design buildings for the govenment. I'm terrible at articulating my thoughts. Especially emotional ones. It's the message that's important, not the package that it comes in.
@Midge: I wish it were. History has shown us nothing if not the fact that a shiny package can sell any kind of crap--and poor packaging can cause even good ideas to be overlooked.
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And I must leap across it, frequently landing on the wrong side, to show others where not to tread.
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In short, this musical was funny and it's better late than never.
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"A homosexual is someone who, in 15 years of trying, can’t get a pissant anti-discrimination bill through City Council."
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Plus, we're not congratulating ourselves about anything.
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The battle is far from over. No On 8 made some mistakes and I think this video makes a valiant attempt to address them. I believe that the absence of celebrity outcry before the election was intentional. It only invites ridicule and derision on the internet and distracts from the issue at hand. The fact that these "richies" actually took some of their valuable time out to create this is makes it all the more admirable and hardly ego-driven.
For all you knee-jerk commentators that complain it's not funny, I agree. But who cares? That's not really the point. This isn't some lame SNL skit that deserves ridicule. Get your heads out of the comment sandbox for a minute and ponder how this affects all of us, not just your snark-rating in the bowels of Gawker.
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I believe that the absence of celebrity outcry before the election was intentional.
This seems like you're saying that there are good, effective ways to support No on Prop 8, and to fight against the religious right and their evilness. And I agree with that, in principle.
But here you say:
complain it's not funny, I agree. But who cares? That's not really the point. This isn't some lame SNL skit that deserves ridicule.
And that seems like you're saying that we should support any effort on anyone's behalf, even if it's terrible. I guess, more precisely: what's changed? Why were celebrity voices detrimental before, and valuable now? Why were we worried about doing things pre-vote that looked ridiculous, but now we're supposed to pretend that nothing is ridiculous?
Also, I'm curious about this one:
The fact that these "richies" actually took some of their valuable time out to create this is makes it all the more admirable and hardly ego-driven.
How valuable is their time? I was under the impression that the point of being a rich celebrity was that you got to have more leisure than everyone else.
Moreover, aren't "ego-driven" ventures ones that pay you in self-satisfaction? Doesn't something in which you're sacrificing your valuable time (presuming that this was the case), indicate that you're getting a reward in some way other than monetary gain? In that case, something like this would seem like it was more ego-driven, rather than less.
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