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Octogenarian Anti-Semite Opens Fire Inside D.C.'s Holocaust Museum

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intime
06/10/09

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Why can't these assholes kill themselves quietly, at home.
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PandoraSpocks
06/10/09

@intime: Because they are so selfish they need to take someone with them?
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
06/11/09

@PandoraSpocks: "death by cop" happens all the time ...
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stuntpuppy
06/10/09

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Pretty disappointed in humankind right now. I mean, c'mon, shooting people at the Holocaust museum? In what universe does that even register in someone's head as an OK thing to do?
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HiredGoons
06/10/09

@stuntpuppy: 'murca.
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pooks
06/10/09

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Why can't we just refer to these people as what they really are...i.e., mentally ill? A paranoid schizophrenic person will latch onto an idea and become obsessed with it. Sometimes that idea is an ideological movement (white supremicism, pro-life), sometimes it's a particular celebrity, and sometimes it's the notion that the neighbor's dog wants him to kill people. The man was batsh*t folks, plain and simple. To say he is representative of a particular movement only gives those groups the attention and credence they crave.
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valet_of_the_dolls
06/10/09

@pooks: First of all, not all people who commit acts of violence similar to this are clinically mentally ill. Hateful, bigoted, capable of violence in certain circumstances, yes, but their actual mental state is beyond our diagnosis. (A friend of mine is fond of saying, "The DSM IV is not a toy.")
Also, he definitely is a representative of a particular movement, and way of belief: eliminationism.
David Niewert, at his blog Orcinus, has an excellent series on eliminationism in America.
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BxgrlJeri
06/10/09

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I hate these people. And as a liberal, I won't kill them. I'll just sit and smoulder and hope the hell someone else does.
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Red letter
06/10/09

@BxgrlJeri: As liberals, we have the smug satisfaction to know that some day, some where, some place...they will get theirs. Oh yes....they will.

Last November was an excellent example of this.
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Dickens_Ghost
06/10/09

@BxgrlJeri: a ha
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HiredGoons
06/10/09

@Red letter: and it's not heaven.
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wealhtheow
06/10/09

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Oh god, this AND Dr. Tiller's murder in the space of two weeks? Our country's seedy underbelly is really showing itself off.
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HiredGoons
06/10/09

@wealhtheow: if only it were the underbelly.
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Mama Penguino
06/10/09

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I'm ashamed that the last time I visited the Holocaust Memorial Museum I tucked my Magen David into my shirt during the cab ride over so I wouldn't have to get into yet another discussion about Israel's foreign policies. If you're at all familiar with the Museum entrance layout, then you know you'll never get through security, let alone the main exhibit, without a small army.
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Dickens_Ghost
06/10/09

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This neo-nazi piece of shit is EXACTLY what the DOD Domestic Terrorism report last month was about.

Rush, Sean and the rest of the criminals called the report "Traitorious" "false" "unamerican". And a "funny" meme was circulated in wingnut circles called "you might be a domestic terrorist if..." hahahaha motherfuckers.

Since then TWO right wing, Christianist, terrorists have struck. In one MONTH.

We the people do NOT buy the lies, propaganda and distortions of the lunatic right wing in America.

We voted them out. And they will be out for a long time. Bankrupt does not begin to describe these people.

Fucking NAZI cunts.

How often can a party lie and just be plain wrong? Let's get Bobby Jindal to tell us again about volcanos.

And Dick Cheney to tell us "deficits don't matter" and that the WMDs will be found any day now.

Motherfuckers.
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maevemealone
06/10/09

@Dickens_Ghost: Righteous
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Dickens_Ghost
06/10/09

@maevemealone:

Righteous anger.

Right,it's three Christianist terrorists.

There was Jim Adkisson, who shot up a Unitarian church, killing two, because he hated liberals and gays.

Everyfucking thing these fuckers have said and done for 9 years was wrong.

As an American History scholar I have this to say.

In some ways I think American unity of thought and action really is just a mid 20th century anomoly.
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Red letter
06/10/09

@Dickens_Ghost: Darling, I'm lighting my molotov cocktail with my ciggarette as we speak - if only I knew where their nest was!
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Dickens_Ghost
06/10/09

@Red letter: I hate to admit this because it is anti-ethical to most of what I am about.

But, once in a while, when this stuff happens and the madness of lies passing for truth reaches an apex, in the wayyyyy back portion of my mind, I wonder if answering these people with their own medicine wouldn't be righteous. The sweet, seductive vapors of instant and final retaliation float through my body and mind.

Then I stop and remember everything I have ever learned, every action I have ever taken, every thought or word I have spoken and written, the promises I made to myself about what actions I can take that will make me a real "real man" not the cartoon version and I realise that the rational path is the righteous path, and it passes quickly.
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crooked_teeth
06/10/09

@Dickens_Ghost: my god, how old are you...

so basically, we should just hang every evil, hateful, and nefarious act in the world around the necks of the republicons and faux news, and send them all off to gitmo...
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
06/11/09

@Dickens_Ghost: word. tell it.
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
06/11/09

@crooked_teeth: um, actually, yes.
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maevemealone
06/10/09

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Somebody go kneecap the "Rev." Phelps right now before his agitas gives him any bright ideas to round off this week of nutjob "victories".
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
06/10/09

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I think I am going to hide in my basement until the apocalypse is over.
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Grim Reaper of the Forest
06/10/09

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Maybe he got sick of waiting in line for tickets.
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forwardmotion
06/10/09

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Terrible. I hope the security guard is alright.
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FormerEnglishMajor
06/10/09

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I wish there could be a news blackout so this guy's name and agenda aren't broadcast, making him a hero to the least-educated, most-bigoted among us.
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bytememehard
06/10/09

@FormerEnglishMajor: But Everybody Needs a Hero.
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bowleserised
06/10/09

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Stormfront also has a "von Brunn is sick" thread which I can't open. I'm guessing he got a diagnosis he didn't like and decided to go out with a bang.

Fucker.
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bowleserised
06/10/09

@bowleserised: Oh no, it's a really old thing. He had a heart problem in 2003.
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iplaudius
06/10/09

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That’s it. I’m going to the KKK museum right now to mow down some candy ass nillas.

Or maybe I’ll stick around here. There’s snark to be made, after all. How could you blame the gunman? He had just watched Max Blumenthal’s little hit piece. Or, to echo kneetoe: Maybe it was probably just Dov Hikind in a rage over the museum’s inclusiveness of non-Jews.

But really this just makes me sad. It is terrorism: non-state agents perpetrating violence against civilians as a way of furthering a political and ideological agenda. With the Tiller case still fresh on my mind, it all feels very heavy indeed.
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Wrapitup
06/10/09

@iplaudius: This isn't turrism. A nice 89 year old white grandpa is no turrist. And the muslin president did the right thing by discrediting the recent DHS report saying that domestic right-wing militia groups and white supremacists were strongly inclined to increase acts of turrism. If u call patriotic Americans turrists, then ur a socialist!!
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iplaudius
06/10/09

@Wrapitup: Guilty as churged.

@DahlELama: I know. Of all the symbolically Jewish places to stage a shooting, a Holocaust museum would seem to provide the least bang for the buck. (Oh, ouch, sorry.)
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Wrapitup
06/10/09

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I hope the cops got to the cowardly asshole (brave masculine warrior for justice in his mind, obvs) before he made the mandatory suicide attempt popular with his ilk . Suddenly all that hardcore, crusading spirit goes right out when it's time to get arrested and spend a night in a smelly jail cell.

And if he's alive, I hope the media doesn't make him sound all important by calling him by his full name, middle name and all. If everyone in his stupid circle called him Tiny Johnson, then that's the name CNN and Fox News should use too.
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valet_of_the_dolls
06/10/09

@Wrapitup: The reason full names are used in news stories is to differentiate the accused from innocent people who have the same name.
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
06/11/09

@Wrapitup: wrap.
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