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    Google Serving Up Hubris at Shuttered Café

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    Image of meh_alert meh_alert
    03/06/09

    In reply to Google Serving Up Hubris at Shuttered Café
    Slow news week, Owen?


    The lines at 5ive are crazy because JC has been going all out. Today they cooked an entire goat, and invited 3,000 people. Entitlement is a stretch, but, that's your schtick, so, whatever.


    Nice job on the quote. How long did it take you to write something that sounds so natural?

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    Image of Owen Thomas Owen Thomas
    03/06/09

    @meh_alert: See a_tipster's statement below. I'll let the two of you fight it out.
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    Image of Dreadnt Dreadnt
    03/05/09

    In reply to Google Serving Up Hubris at Shuttered Café
    When it comes to the food stuff, I really someone is taking Owen for a ride.
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    Image of Dreadnt Dreadnt
    03/05/09

    @Dreadnt:


    I mean - I really *think* someone is taking Owen for a ride.

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    Image of Owen Thomas Owen Thomas
    03/06/09

    @Dreadnt: Ah, yes. Which is why Jean-Claude Balek personally confirmed for me the closure of his cafes the other day. I feel so taken!
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    Image of evilbeet evilbeet
    03/05/09

    In reply to Google Serving Up Hubris at Shuttered Café
    "Can you believe this? They make 50 highly paid engineers wait in line for one lowly paid chef."


    I don't understand the fuss. He's absolutely right. It doesn't make financial sense to have your overpaid engineers waiting forever for a burger when you could hire a couple more chefs. It's not hubris -- it's economics.

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    Image of Lucille van Pelt Lucille van Pelt
    03/05/09

    @The Evil Beet: it's their lunch hour. they shouldn't be billing for time spent on lunch anyways.
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    Image of evilbeet evilbeet
    03/06/09

    @glewin: You think these engineers are paid hourly?


    And if Google is the one offering the free food on their campus, they should certainly expect their employees to, ya know, eat there, and staff it such that it makes financial sense.


    I don't think the employee was complaining about having to wait. I think he was complaining about the cafeteria having a negative ROI.

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    Image of Clarence Rosario Clarence Rosario
    03/06/09

    @The Evil Beet: Uh, if the cafeteria is supposed to have a positive ROI, perhaps they should, you know, CHARGE for the food?


    I don't think you understand the point of Google's "perks" model.

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    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    03/05/09

    In reply to Google Serving Up Hubris at Shuttered Café
    That "lowly paid" chef owns $4 million worth of Google stock.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    03/05/09

    In reply to Google Serving Up Hubris at Shuttered Café
    I prefer to think of it as 50 men who tuck in their t-shirts waiting in line for one man with skilled, calloused hands.
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    Image of valet_of_the_dolls valet_of_the_dolls
    03/05/09

    In reply to Google Serving Up Hubris at Shuttered Café
    Correction: Fifty highly paid engineers chose to wait in line for free food.
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    Image of CarinSea urchin CarinSea urchin
    03/04/09

    In reply to Google Closes Two More Cafés
    John Dickman left Apple in January.
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    Image of Owen Thomas Owen Thomas
    03/05/09

    @CarinSea urchin: Thanks, I'll note that!
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    Image of ValborgMelbo ValborgMelbo
    03/04/09

    In reply to Google Closes Two More Cafés
    Well, these free meals are not really "free". They are improper double taxpayer subsidies: unless Google is adding the value of them to their employess' W-2 forms, you and I pay for them. That is, Google duducts the cost from their taxes, and their employees pay no tax on the benefit. Even the folks in Congress are not so brazen as to make their food "free": http://thehill.com/american/senate-dining-room-where-the-elite-meet-2003-07-16.html
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    Image of Owen Thomas Owen Thomas
    03/05/09

    @ValborgMelbo:Improper? Well, that's your opinion. They're certainly not illegal. As far as I can tell, Google is following all relevant tax rules.
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    Image of Pamela Strangeways Pamela Strangeways
    03/04/09

    In reply to Google Closes Two More Cafés
    "You can't cut your cake and have it, too."


    Well-played, Owen. Well-played.

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    Image of Owen Thomas Owen Thomas
    03/04/09

    @BerthaCool: *bows*
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    Image of Clare Clare
    03/04/09

    In reply to Google Closes Two More Cafés
    Google had a cafe called 5ive? I guess now we'll find out what happens baby when the lights go out.
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