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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    10/07/09

    In reply to Amazon's Very Big, Very Small Kindle Expansion
    Would someone please explain why I need a Kindle or other book reader when my mini notebook (or the one I plan on buying soon)will eventually have this app?
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    Image of Luddite Luddite
    10/07/09

    @SarahHeartburn: Because the Kindle has a battery life of a few days whereas your netbook and the upcoming Apple Tablet might last for a few hours. Because reading text on the e-ink screen is less taxing on your eyes than reading it on LCD screen. Because the kindle won't heat up too much when used for a long time.
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    Edited by TheBusinessGuy at 10/07/09 8:40 AM TheBusinessGuy approved this comment Luddite was starred Luddite was unstarred
    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    10/07/09

    @SarahHeartburn: I was skeptical for this reason until my "friend" convinced me to try hers. Now I am obsessed with getting a Kindle, for the reasons Luddite lists, and more. The user experience is very book-like, which puts my brain in a reading zone, as opposed to a "watching" zone, if that makes any sense.
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    10/07/09

    @Luddite: And because it is lighter and easier to hold. Try reading your netbook on the rush hour subway.
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    10/07/09

    @SarahHeartburn: I also tried the Kindle app on my iPhone and nearly went crazy trying to use it. OK for short bursts, but not for reading an entire book.
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    Image of CaptainMaharet CaptainMaharet
    10/07/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: Or.... maybe.... try reading a book! A book book!
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    10/07/09

    @CaptainMaharet: Of course. But a Kindle is areal handy substitute for schlepping an 800-page hardcover. And with a Kindle, if I finish one book while I'm out and about, there are plenty more immediately available.
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    Image of edosan edosan
    07/24/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Sorry For Stealing Your Kindle Books, Being Creepy
    "We're sorry you guys got angry. We won't do this again until the next time we decide we want to."
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    Image of deltasierra deltasierra
    07/23/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Sorry For Stealing Your Kindle Books, Being Creepy
    Principles?! Amazon has principles?! Then kindly explain to me why I read in the publishing trade papers that Amazon is patenting software to insert ads into Kindle pages.
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    DeadFred promoted this comment deltasierra was starred deltasierra was unstarred
    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    07/23/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Sorry For Stealing Your Kindle Books, Being Creepy
    So he SAYS. You just wait and see: this time next year the big story will be how Bezos broke into ten thousand homes and took back their Keds.
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    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    07/23/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Sorry For Stealing Your Kindle Books, Being Creepy
    There are some who bought prime stolen artwork from nazi fences. They thought they should be able to keep it, as it was purchased in good faith. I think the law is you have to be a celebrity to keep stolen goods.
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    Image of Iwillnotauditionforastar Iwillnotauditionforastar
    07/23/09

    @Tremonius: I am not giving you that DVD back. You gave it to me as a Valentine's Day gift, for gosh sake!
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    Tremonius promoted this comment Iwillnotauditionforastar was starred Iwillnotauditionforastar was unstarred
    Image of Tremonius Tremonius
    07/24/09

    @Iwillnotauditionforastar: Yes, but the lady I stole it from wants it back!
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    07/23/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Sorry For Stealing Your Kindle Books, Being Creepy
    This is why I will never own a Kindle or any other device that depends upon Digital Rights Management to manage content.
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    Image of macbeach macbeach
    07/23/09

    @Swifter: I agree in principle.

    But if you take that to an extreme that would preclude buying a PC, DVD player or even modern TV equipment.

    The problem is with content that is encumbered, not the devices themselves (in most cases).

    I use iTunes (as well as a Linux equivalent) but have very little in the way of iTunes store purchased music. I mostly have ripped my own CDs, and in a few cases where I downloaded music from Apple I've taken the extra time to convert that to MP3 as well.

    Amazon purchased a company Mobipocket:

    http://www.mobipocket.com/freebooks/default.aspx

    and as far as I can tell pretty mch shut down their new conversions of public domain works to e-reader format, but still offer the already converted titles in their store for $0. Seem sort of stupid to me as there are several other organizations still busily converting content to various e-reader formats:

    http://manybooks.net

    http://www.feedbooks.com

    Whenever possible I get my public domain works from such locations and if possible save them in a couple of different formats so that when something better than the Kindle comse along I'll have little trouble switching.

    Of course if you are a consumer of modern junk fiction there might be reason for concern. If previously you were building a library of hardbacks, I'd continue doing that. If you are a paperback pack-rat however, take a look at your oldest ones and see how they are holding up. Mine crumbled, and I figure buying a Kindle version of such a book is not much more risky than trusting a paper publisher to use good paper and glue (they don't).
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    07/23/09

    @macbeach: I do have an iPhone, but never buy any music from iTunes. Basically, I never buy DRM content.
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    Image of skahammer skahammer
    07/23/09

    @Swifter: Your rainwater and grain alcohol cocktail is ready now.
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    07/23/09

    @skahammer: That's the kind of content I can really get behind! Moonshine from south of the Ohio river can't be beat.
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    Swifter was starred Swifter was unstarred
    Image of celery celery
    07/24/09

    @Swifter: Isn't most music on iTunes non-DRM now? Not that I personally know :O
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    Image of daveyjonesisdead daveyjonesisdead
    07/23/09

    In reply to Amazon.com Sorry For Stealing Your Kindle Books, Being Creepy
    Isn't entering another person's computer considered trespass, and isn't it also prohibited by federal law?
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    Image of skt.smth skt.smth
    07/23/09

    @daveyjonesisdead: Not if buying e-books through Amazon is considered a "service" and they have a terms of service contract that allows them to do such things.

    Of course, it would be interesting to see the extent to which a terms of service contract would protect Amazon against a class action lawsuit about this kind of thing. After all, I'm sure one can't include a clause in such a contract stipulating that "If the user breaks this contract, we get to kill his/her dog, or in the case that he/she does not own a dog, the dog of his/her closest kin." There must be some kind of limitation to Amazon's legal coverage. Also, there's been a lot of buzz lately about small print in loan agreements. I'm sure this is exactly the kind of small print that nobody reads, and moreover, nobody reasonably expects that they have agreed to when they sign on the dotted line.

    It would be interesting to see just how many Kindle owners knew that, according to their terms of service, Amazon could go into their Kindles and erase any e-book they wanted.
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    Image of DeadFred DeadFred
    07/23/09

    @skt.smth: Geez, this hoary conversation again. And here's your answer: WE ALREADY KNOW. Anyone who has a subscription on the Kindle knows Amazon can erase anything -- they do daily. I don't keep an old FT or New Yorker when the new one comes out. The old one goes away.

    I still argue Amazon was right to delete the books, which were obtained in violation of copyright laws. The issue is that Amazon completely botched this situation -- but they were legitimate in deleting the books.

    And Ryan, shame on you. It was legitimate to criticize Amazon in the first place, but this is just snarky piling on done for cheap page views. Perhaps your time would have been spent accurately reporting the purchase price of Zappos -- you were only $20 million off.
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    Image of mrs_hevesi mrs_hevesi
    07/24/09

    @DeadFred: Boo hoo! Poor giant evil corporation! Stop picking on Amazon!

    The point here is not whether Amazon has the "right" to do this. Okay, so the book was "stolen." I suppose people should give it back. (Of course, if they had been paper books there would have been no real way of recalling them, but whatever.)

    The point is that Amazon shouldn't be able to turn books on and off like this in the first place. Are we buying books or licensing them from Amazon? Obviously the answer is the second, but should we be happy about this?

    Yes, Amazon has every right to specify whatever terms it wants when it "sells" books, but the reason people are upset about is because of the way corporations like Amazon (and of course Microsoft etc etc etc before them) are screwing with our ideas of ownership while we're not paying much attention. There's good reason to make a stink now, before the new rules of digital ownership are set in stone.

    Or you could just be an apologist for a totally fucked up corporation that's looking out for nobody's best interests but their own! SHAME ON YOU Gawker or anyone else who criticizes this great institution!
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    Image of DeadFred DeadFred
    07/24/09

    @mrs_hevesi: Feh. The irony is that I'm pretty pissed about how Amazon is running its business and its treatment of small publishers, and I've been having plenty of intense conversations with folks at Amazon about things are being run there. There's plenty to criticize on all levels, but it's snarky and petty to whine about the apology. Smart people move on to fix the system, not complain about the apology not being good enough for them.

    If you don't like DRM, then don't buy a device that uses it. That's the beauty of the market!
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    Image of MakeFetch MakeFetch
    07/23/09

    In reply to Amazon Buys Zappos, Gives Press the Boot
    Does this mean that Amazon will be unplugging Endless.com?
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    DorothyMantooth promoted this comment MakeFetch was starred MakeFetch was unstarred
    Image of DorothyMantooth DorothyMantooth
    07/23/09

    @MakeFetch: This is exactly the first reaction I had.

    What I hope ends up happening is that Zappos' prices fall in line with Endless'. You used to be able to find some really terrific deals at Zappos (and I once got a hand-written thank you card from them -- I seriously touted them to anyone who would listen after that!), but more recently you can find the exact same shoes on BlueFly for less. And BlueFly's hardly THE discount emporium of the internet.
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    07/22/09

    In reply to Amazon Buys Zappos, Gives Press the Boot
    Please don't eviscerate my beloved Zappos.
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    Image of The Doctor The Doctor
    07/22/09

    In reply to Amazon Buys Zappos, Gives Press the Boot
    I just hope no one gets the boot.
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    Image of FaceMelter FaceMelter
    07/22/09

    In reply to Amazon Buys Zappos, Gives Press the Boot
    Bezos is a genius. Plain and simple.
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    Image of Cheap Shot Cheap Shot
    07/22/09

    In reply to Amazon Buys Zappos, Gives Press the Boot
    perfect example of business transparency.
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    Image of LisetteNinja LisetteNinja
    07/22/09

    In reply to Amazon Buys Zappos, Gives Press the Boot
    Will Zappos take away my shoes after I purchase them too?
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    ifstone promoted this comment LisetteNinja was starred LisetteNinja was unstarred
    Image of Defeater Defeater
    07/22/09

    In reply to Amazon Buys Zappos, Gives Press the Boot
    Get ready for your pair of shoes to be shipped in three separate crates that were made for transporting mules.
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    ifstone promoted this comment Defeater was starred Defeater was unstarred
    Image of ifstone ifstone
    07/18/09

    In reply to Deleting is Publishing, And Amazon Never Removed 1984 From Your Kindle
    Amazon: the new Apple.
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