Just some clarification about the soy/thyroid angle, if you take your thyroid medications in the morning without food like you're supposed to (because sorry Oprah, you're never getting that hormone back no matter what you eat, so you may actually have to swallow a pill like us mere mortals) and don't eat 30 to 60 minutes afterwards, you can have soy by 3:00 p.m. or so, because your body would have absorbed the medication by then. I cut my soy quite a bit overall during my struggle with hypothyroidism, but do enjoy it time to time and it hasn't impacted my T3 and T4 levels.
And please note - this is coming from someone who has hypothyroidism and wasn't sad, but instead suffered an array of other problems as a result of it. This condition is nothing to brush off, it can lead to severe heart complications if left untreated. In short, it can kill you. And there's probably some viewers who are ignoring potential symptoms, not aggressively monitoring it or taking medication and making the appropriate lifestyle changes (I saw parts of the episode where Oprah talked about her post-hypo diet, there was no fiber, kinda important if you have hypothyroidism actually).
It's a little pathetic, when you think about it, that the world's richest woman can't handle something millions of men and women deal with everyday, without access to healthcare, organic food, assistants, etc. I really hope this story blows up, as it would at least help educate the American public about hyper and hypothyroidism and the autoimmune disorders that can cause it.
@Sonadelite: Thank you for this information. I had no idea that soy isn't a good idea when you are hypothyroid. Clearly I have to do more research about what I've missed since my diagnosis many years ago.
The New England Skeptical Society has been saying this for YEARS! And I don't even live in New England. But yeah, she needs to be stopped. If just because she foisted Drs Phil and Oz on us.
@apocalypse-nowish: Dr. Oz is light years away from Dr. Phil, in terms of his credentials & the advice he dispenses. You may not like his stage presence, but the things he says are actually pretty solid. Dr. Phil & The Secret on the other hand...unforgivable.
@valet_of_the_dolls: Have to disagree with you on Dr. Oz. Some of his info is ok, but he is really irresponsible on some other stuff. One example is that he has repeatedly said that diabetes can be reversed, and subsequently CURED by losing weight and exercising.
I certainly wasn't aware their was a cure yet. Maybe he knows something the rest of the medical community doesn't?
@MsMuffinMcGuffin: Wow. I was totally unaware of that. I was thinking more of his diet & exercise advice (America's twin obsessions), but yeah, that's pretty irresponsible.
@MsMuffinMcGuffin: For someone with very early Type II diabetes, before their pancreas has burned itself out trying to produce overwhelming amounts of insulin, diet and exercise can actually reverse the course of the disease. Now, maybe 5% (generously) of patients might see that outcome, but that's because overeating and laziness got them into this problem in the first place, and people hate to change their habits, especially the ones they enjoy.
@icelight: Actually that is incorrect. Patients can potentially reverse pre-diabetes i.e. before they are diagnosed if they are vigilant. Once that ship has sailed then too bad. As to the overeating/laziness, ever hear of heredity? Much more a part of the dynamic than you would ever imagine.
@Baroness: Beautiful. A character so slick you don't notice he's stolen a scene until he's walked out of it.
On topic: Jenny McCarthy=Depressingly nuts. I used to think she was refreshingly entertaining and wacky. Why are these traits so close together on the personality tree?
Don't mess with Oprah citizens, she will find you and destroy you.
Oprah is all powerful, her disciples come from every walk of life and are everywhere, watching and waiting to crush all those opposed to her agenda.
To criticize or poke fun is to tempt fate. Her organization is more formidable than the national security agency. They know where you live. They know how to get to you.
They know where it hurts the most. Consider yourself warned.
@stanhalen: I know this. We all know this. Remember when some sales jerk at Harrod's closed the door in her face just because she was Black and it was closing time? She had Mr Harrod on her program and on his knees with billions watching.
Wanta go a couple fast rounds with da Grand Ole Oprah?
@Tremonius: It was actually Hermes, and there is no "Mr. Harrod" (there is, however, a Mr. El-Fayed who owns Harrod's). But yeah, she'll cut you. & Grand Ole Oprah made me laugh.
She is losing the credibility she gained by throwing her fluctuating weight behind Barack Obama at a very early stage in the campaign, and now she risks making the Obamas look bad by association. Valerie Jarrett and Desiree Rogers may need to go home for a visit and put the O in check.
I really don't get this post or the comments. I saw Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carey on Larry King Live. They took great pains to say they weren't anti-vaccine. They are pro the necessary vaccines on an extended schedule -- seems reasonable.
They object to giving babies 35+ vaccines before they're 2. They rightly point out that that the current schedule in the U.S. involves far more vaccines at earlier ages than any other developed country -- or what was recommended in the U.S. 20 years ago.
The current position of the medical establishment is that whatever vaccines, however numerous and at whatever age is perfectly safe. If it had been responsible and carefully considered the risk / reward for every vaccine , they wouldn't have so many parents questioning their advice.
A good example is the Hep B vaccine administered to every newborn in the country. Hep B is only transmittable via blood or sex -- so if the mother doesn't have it, the baby doesn't have it and has no risk of getting it until exposed as a teenager or adult.
And there have been no peer-reviewed studies that have looked at whether the current schedule is safe. The studies only look at individual or small numbers of vaccines. No one can say with any certainty -- because it hasn't been studied -- that there is not a certain percentage of toddlers who can't handle the toxins in the 35+ vaccines administered.
@SophieP: In a way, you are correct. They are for "safe" vaccines. Until then, Jenny doesn't care if kids die from Polio. The problem is Jenny and Jim will never find a "safe" vaccine by their standards. They keep moving the goal posts and lying to people. Jim in the Huffington post last week made the statement that people who vaccinate their kids treat their dogs better b/c Thimerasol was removed from dog vaccines many years ago. He fails to bring up, even though it's on record that he was told the facts, that some childhood vaccines NEVER HAD Thimerasol. When the vaccines that DID have Thimerasol had it removed, and the cases of Autism went up due to greater detection and expansion of the definition, they claimed that there where other things and the schedule was too much. Jenny also believes that the viruses that are in the vaccines are causing Autism, and wants them removed. So until your vaccine is nothing but purified water w/no chemicals at all and no viruses, Jenny and her ilk say they will not accept it. Until then, to quote Mrs. McCarthy, who hates toxins(unless it's botox, which she praises as it's injected into her face), "I do believe sadly it's going to take some diseases coming back to realize that we need to change and develop vaccines that are safe."
As for your peer reviewed studies, please remember that the "study" that first proved the Autism-Vaccine "link" failed peer review and was retracted by it's author. I'm sure someone else who is more awake can link or tell you what journals to look at online which have been peer reviewed, as I find it highly unlikely that the current schedule was made up w/o ANY testing whatsoever.
BTW, your Hep B comment is the one that made me realize that I knew I had heard your points before, mostly from Mrs. McCarthy's mouth and in countless interviews with anti-"unsafe"vaccine proponents.
@ocpd301: Not according to their likely source, Jenny. According to Jenny, in Time Magazine(::Shivers in disgust::):
Babies get the hepatitis B vaccine immediately after they're born and the only way for a newborn to contract that disease is if the mother is a carrier. Why not just screen the mother? Evan was handed to me pre-vaccinated with a Band-Aid on his foot.
I resent Jenny McCarthy's insistance that the alternative medicine community supports her crazy ass. None of the teachers at my acupuncture school have ever spoken out against vaccines.
Severe vitmain & mineral deficencies and certain food allergies can sometimes mimic the symptoms of autism, and that may be what she "cured". In her first book, Jenny said she ate nothing but fast food through her entire pregnancy. Isn't it more logical that her kid was malnourished and allergic to gluten, dairy and preservatives, and that once she changed his diet his symptoms disappeared?
@south2nd: Why would she be malnourished? A hamburger is actually quite a balanced meal, rich with just about every nutrient. Add a slice of cheese and it even contains all four food groups. Fast food hamburgers are excellent sources of protein, calcium, and iron.
I would like to know how much Jenny McCarthy is making off her son's autism. I would like to know how much the self-righteous "America's Most Wanted" dude is making off his son's tragedy. Then I would like someone to explain how this is different from what Lynn Spears and Dina Lohan are doing?
@Mike Jahn: Self-Righteous? The dude created the group "Missing and Exploited Children", which is doing a hell of a job attempting to find kidnapped kids, abused children, and enslaved kids. I wouldn't put him and McCarthy in the same bunch.
I suppose it's folly to expect TV people to practice evidence-based bathering. Listen up, Offal -- vaccines do not cause autism. Autism is of unknown etiology. No one knows (yet) where it comes from.
@✪TheMac: I have to take issue with the idea that having an autism spectrum disorder makes you qualified to decide whether someone else's kid, who you do not know, does or does not have one...
Yeah, none of us "know" him (which could be said about every person ever covered in Gawker media), and I personally don't really care a whole lot about the "what causes autism" debate as much as I care about the "medical treatments for autism" debate (although there's obviously overlap). Maybe so many vaccinations are harmful, I dunno, but I take offense to the idea that autism- across the board- is something that should be conceptualized as 'needing to be cured' rather than a spectrum disorder that has multiple treatment options (or none at all). I don't think Jenny McCarthy is helpful to the ASD cause in the larger scale. I think she's just feeding into middle-class women who read Web-MD thinking they know more than actual medical professionals.
Oprah gave fat Dr. Phil a show and created that Southern drawled monster. Oprah must be stopped from giving out TV shows. Her judgment is impaired by a glucose overdose brought on by too many trips to the sugar shack.
Jenny McCarthy is the main example of a group of people called "Science-tits". They use the fact they have mammories to spout off the craziest/dumbest things in the world, and people believe them. What are Jenny's credentials? Her main claim is she has "Mommy Sense", which is how she diagnosed her child as Autistic, and also how she cured one of her children of it. But even despite mountains of evidence, she commits logical fallacy after logical fallacy to ignore them. Jenny has been informed on many occasions about how "facts" she says are wrong and given the right data. But she ignores it, and if it looks like she's losing, moves the goalpost and accuses something else.
I think her and her ilk were best exemplified by a woman I heard on Science Friday on NPR. A mother called up and was going on and on against a Dr. and the host, Ira Flato. The Dr. was shooting down this womans points very well, to which the mother contended that he/others were in Big Pharma's pocket. The host finally asked the woman what it would take(studies,experiments, choosing the people who performed them) for her to "trust" a vaccine. Her answer was nothing. Nothing would convince her to trust vaccines. And how can you debate/win in a situation where there is no group of facts/data that a person would EVER believe?
@FutureLabCoatWearing?_GitEmSteveDave: I agree that McCarthy is an idiot, but there are plenty of men who are on the anti-vaccine crusade (Robert Kennedy Jr., Andrew Wakefield, etc). Quite a few of the parents who are filing lawsuits against the vaccine manufacturers are fathers who say the same sorts of things as McCarthy does.
@Cicada: I realize that, but Jenny is at the forefront along w/Jim. She's the one they call onto talk shows to "debate" with REAL Scientists, which usually involves her throwing out psuedo science and cursing at the trained professionals.
@porcuPINE: @Mike Jahn: Thank you. My next inductee will possibly be Oprah herself, as the amount of pseudo science she spews is astounding, and people listen, cuz "It's Oprah!".
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And please note - this is coming from someone who has hypothyroidism and wasn't sad, but instead suffered an array of other problems as a result of it. This condition is nothing to brush off, it can lead to severe heart complications if left untreated. In short, it can kill you. And there's probably some viewers who are ignoring potential symptoms, not aggressively monitoring it or taking medication and making the appropriate lifestyle changes (I saw parts of the episode where Oprah talked about her post-hypo diet, there was no fiber, kinda important if you have hypothyroidism actually).
It's a little pathetic, when you think about it, that the world's richest woman can't handle something millions of men and women deal with everyday, without access to healthcare, organic food, assistants, etc. I really hope this story blows up, as it would at least help educate the American public about hyper and hypothyroidism and the autoimmune disorders that can cause it.
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Dr. Phil & The Secret on the other hand...unforgivable.
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I certainly wasn't aware their was a cure yet. Maybe he knows something the rest of the medical community doesn't?
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On topic: Jenny McCarthy=Depressingly nuts. I used to think she was refreshingly entertaining and wacky. Why are these traits so close together on the personality tree?
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Don't mess with Oprah citizens, she will find you and destroy you.
Oprah is all powerful, her disciples come from every walk of life and are everywhere, watching and waiting to crush all those opposed to her agenda.
To criticize or poke fun is to tempt fate. Her organization is more formidable than the national security agency. They know where you live. They know how to get to you.
They know where it hurts the most. Consider yourself warned.
All hail Oprah. Queen of America.
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Wanta go a couple fast rounds with da Grand Ole Oprah?
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But yeah, she'll cut you.
& Grand Ole Oprah made me laugh.
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They object to giving babies 35+ vaccines before they're 2. They rightly point out that that the current schedule in the U.S. involves far more vaccines at earlier ages than any other developed country -- or what was recommended in the U.S. 20 years ago.
The current position of the medical establishment is that whatever vaccines, however numerous and at whatever age is perfectly safe. If it had been responsible and carefully considered the risk / reward for every vaccine , they wouldn't have so many parents questioning their advice.
A good example is the Hep B vaccine administered to every newborn in the country. Hep B is only transmittable via blood or sex -- so if the mother doesn't have it, the baby doesn't have it and has no risk of getting it until exposed as a teenager or adult.
And there have been no peer-reviewed studies that have looked at whether the current schedule is safe. The studies only look at individual or small numbers of vaccines. No one can say with any certainty -- because it hasn't been studied -- that there is not a certain percentage of toddlers who can't handle the toxins in the 35+ vaccines administered.
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As for your peer reviewed studies, please remember that the "study" that first proved the Autism-Vaccine "link" failed peer review and was retracted by it's author. I'm sure someone else who is more awake can link or tell you what journals to look at online which have been peer reviewed, as I find it highly unlikely that the current schedule was made up w/o ANY testing whatsoever.
BTW, your Hep B comment is the one that made me realize that I knew I had heard your points before, mostly from Mrs. McCarthy's mouth and in countless interviews with anti-"unsafe"vaccine proponents.
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Hep B can be transmitted by saliva. It is extraordinarily contagious.
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Babies get the hepatitis B vaccine immediately after they're born and the only way for a newborn to contract that disease is if the mother is a carrier. Why not just screen the mother? Evan was handed to me pre-vaccinated with a Band-Aid on his foot.
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Severe vitmain & mineral deficencies and certain food allergies can sometimes mimic the symptoms of autism, and that may be what she "cured". In her first book, Jenny said she ate nothing but fast food through her entire pregnancy. Isn't it more logical that her kid was malnourished and allergic to gluten, dairy and preservatives, and that once she changed his diet his symptoms disappeared?
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Pssst...I'm not sure Oprah is the best judge of people...
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self-righteous "America's Most Wanted" dude is making off his son's tragedy. Then I would like someone to explain how this is different from what Lynn Spears and
Dina Lohan are doing?
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Maybe Scientology causes autism.
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And fuck Jenny McCarthy, from a real live Aspie. I don't even think her son ever had autism, personally.
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Yeah, none of us "know" him (which could be said about every person ever covered in Gawker media), and I personally don't really care a whole lot about the "what causes autism" debate as much as I care about the "medical treatments for autism" debate (although there's obviously overlap). Maybe so many vaccinations are harmful, I dunno, but I take offense to the idea that autism- across the board- is something that should be conceptualized as 'needing to be cured' rather than a spectrum disorder that has multiple treatment options (or none at all). I don't think Jenny McCarthy is helpful to the ASD cause in the larger scale. I think she's just feeding into middle-class women who read Web-MD thinking they know more than actual medical professionals.
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I think her and her ilk were best exemplified by a woman I heard on Science Friday on NPR. A mother called up and was going on and on against a Dr. and the host, Ira Flato. The Dr. was shooting down this womans points very well, to which the mother contended that he/others were in Big Pharma's pocket. The host finally asked the woman what it would take(studies,experiments, choosing the people who performed them) for her to "trust" a vaccine. Her answer was nothing. Nothing would convince her to trust vaccines. And how can you debate/win in a situation where there is no group of facts/data that a person would EVER believe?
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@porcuPINE: @Mike Jahn: Thank you. My next inductee will possibly be Oprah herself, as the amount of pseudo science she spews is astounding, and people listen, cuz "It's Oprah!".