Last month, Theresa Hatt died at 52, after a brief struggle with cancer.
Hatt, who lived in Portland, Maine, and worked for the city of Scarborough, hadseveral credit cards in her name. So, shortly after her death, Hatt's son, Paul Kelleher, began the sad task of calling his mother's creditors, to inform them of her passing.
The calls were uneventful, if depressing, until Kelleher got to Bank of America. Here is how he says his conversation with a representative of the company's estates unit went:
Paul Kelleher: Yes, I'm calling to inform you that my mom died on the 24th of January.
Bank of America Estates representative: I'm sorry. Oh, it looks like she never even missed a payment. That's too bad. Well, how are you planning to take care of her balance?
PK: I'm not going to. She has no estate to speak of, but you should feel free to just go through the standard probate procedure. I'm certainly not legally obligated to pay for her.
BOA: You mean you're not going to help her out?
PK: I wouldn't be helping her out -- she's dead. I'd be helping you out.
BOA: Oh, that's really not the way to look at it. I know that if it were my mother, I'd pay it. That's why we're in the banking crisis we're in: banks having to write off defaulted loans.
"I lost it there," Kelleher, a mild-mannered 30-year-old who lives in Brookline, Mass., where he works remotely for a Washington DC-based non-profit, told TPMMuckraker. When pressed, he said, the estates rep backed off that last claim, but only a little, continuing to suggest that cases like his mothers had played a role in the financial crisis.
The rep's apparent intention, as Kelleher described it, was to mislead him into believing that he was obligated -- at first legally, then, failing that, morally -- to cover his mother's debt (which, in any case, was not large: she had had a $1000 limit on her card). Of course, Kelleher was sophisticated enough to know that's not true. But how many other less savvy callers in similar situations, he wondered, might respond to the rep's breezy "how are you planning to take care of her balance?," with a confused "I guess I'll mail in a check"?
I would think that paying employees $4 billion in bonuses in December before BoA closed on the acquisition would be evidence of illegal activity. I'm no expert, but I would compare it to the bloody glove at a crime scene. Then again, our legal system let that damn piece of evidence slip slide away.
As Michael Lewis pointed out..."Bad guys did not suffer their comeuppance in Act V on the 41st floor." I'm certain that the folks observing the furor precipitated by their actions do so with bemused detachment.
It wasn't just the rug. He also moved up Merrill Lynch (not B of A) bonuses from January to December, so that they'd get paid out (with taxpayer dollars) before the ginormous 4Q losses were announced and bonuses zeroed out.
That, to me, is far, far more egregious. That Ken Lewis and the board approved them means they should go too.
@FormerEnglishMajor: I can't believe the audacity of these people. $4 Billion in bonuses to retain the talent? Where the hell are they going? The whole economy is suffering, and they will have stiff competition from all the other tanking and downsizing firms if they decide to jump ship.
This is nothing more than pure greed and playing the taxpayers for suckers. These people need to go jail or at the very least be forced to feel the consequences of such stunningly bad decisions by having their bonuses stripped away and their multi-million dollar appointments sold at auction.
02/06/09
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Last month, Theresa Hatt died at 52, after a brief struggle with cancer.
Hatt, who lived in Portland, Maine, and worked for the city of Scarborough, hadseveral credit cards in her name. So, shortly after her death, Hatt's son, Paul Kelleher, began the sad task of calling his mother's creditors, to inform them of her passing.
The calls were uneventful, if depressing, until Kelleher got to Bank of America. Here is how he says his conversation with a representative of the company's estates unit went:
Paul Kelleher: Yes, I'm calling to inform you that my mom died on the 24th of January.
Bank of America Estates representative: I'm sorry. Oh, it looks like she never even missed a payment. That's too bad. Well, how are you planning to take care of her balance?
PK: I'm not going to. She has no estate to speak of, but you should feel free to just go through the standard probate procedure. I'm certainly not legally obligated to pay for her.
BOA: You mean you're not going to help her out?
PK: I wouldn't be helping her out -- she's dead. I'd be helping you out.
BOA: Oh, that's really not the way to look at it. I know that if it were my mother, I'd pay it. That's why we're in the banking crisis we're in: banks having to write off defaulted loans.
"I lost it there," Kelleher, a mild-mannered 30-year-old who lives in Brookline, Mass., where he works remotely for a Washington DC-based non-profit, told TPMMuckraker. When pressed, he said, the estates rep backed off that last claim, but only a little, continuing to suggest that cases like his mothers had played a role in the financial crisis.
The rep's apparent intention, as Kelleher described it, was to mislead him into believing that he was obligated -- at first legally, then, failing that, morally -- to cover his mother's debt (which, in any case, was not large: she had had a $1000 limit on her card). Of course, Kelleher was sophisticated enough to know that's not true. But how many other less savvy callers in similar situations, he wondered, might respond to the rep's breezy "how are you planning to take care of her balance?," with a confused "I guess I'll mail in a check"?
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You're so Thain.
You prob'ly think this rug is about you,
Don'tchu, don'tchuuuu....
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sounds like it was a console not a commode they need to learn their furniture terms
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That, to me, is far, far more egregious. That Ken Lewis and the board approved them means they should go too.
01/22/09
This is nothing more than pure greed and playing the taxpayers for suckers. These people need to go jail or at the very least be forced to feel the consequences of such stunningly bad decisions by having their bonuses stripped away and their multi-million dollar appointments sold at auction.
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It really tied the room together.
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Do you think he got a chance to micturate on it before he left?
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Gross, but good, point. This aggression shall not stand.
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