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Mediahohoho
07/15/09

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If I were Rick Perlstein I'd invest in a super soaker and keep it filled and ready for Jesse "Little Pussy" Watters' inevitable appearance.
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Mediahohoho
07/15/09

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I remember Newsweek's breathlessly gushy coverage of the Bush administration and its decision to invade Iraq (oh, Fareed, have you ever been more wrong about anything?). To hear now that it's been taken to task for "media corruption" because it stated the obvious--Sarah Palin is a loon, Fox News is a ridiculous parody of right wing "news"--is ridiculous. You don't get more center-right than Time or Newsweek.

You know you've gone 'round the bend when crazy Bernie Goldberg is your voice of reason.
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Z und Vielpunkt's chick
07/15/09

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Newsweek claims to be "fair arbitrator of the week's events," Fox claims to be "fair and balanced." Much like you should never trust a sentence that starts with the word "honestly," maybe you should never trust the objectivity of a news source that starts with "fair."
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Helio
07/15/09

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well at least bernard tried to make something out of this good-for-nothing segment by bringing out the merits of an article which contained editorialized language, but was pretty spot on in illustrating the internal rifts of the republican party.

He's also right in pointing out that newsweek and time are not pure news (whatever that means) magazines. I haven't read either regularly for a while, but the pieces in them were always long-range profiles that had a thesis (ie: an opinion), supported by analysis of current affairs and not just a run down. Which is exactly what Fox "News" does, but with much less thoughtfulness.

The fact that Bill was preaching about standards of journalism made my head spin.
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ChillbearLatrigue
07/15/09

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I haven't cracked open a Newsweek since they printed a story about Koran abuse at Guantanamo Bay resulting in at least 17 riot related deaths and then retracting their story because their single source wouldn't confirm the information. Having said that, I don't think that every article should come with a disclaimer about the author like a warning label on a pack of smokes.

On the other hand, I think Bernie Goldberg made an interesting point. I see Bush and Obama as polarizing figures who divide the nation. I see Palin as a polarizing figure who divides the party.
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Dr. Nick
07/15/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: Do you really think that it's anything in particular about Obama that makes him polarizing? I don't. All I've seen against him are just knee-jerk reactions that would have been leveled against any Democrat that wound up in the White House. The Republican party is so deeply divided that the only thing they can agree on is that they're pissed that they lost the last election.
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pmarble
07/15/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: Palin only fails to divide the country because she's too unimportant in the larger scheme to be worth our time. She's a half-term governor who can't put a coherent thought together. She's the equivalent of summer shark attacks -- the media love it and the rest of us suffer through the blips.

As for Obama, what is the evidence that he divides the nation? And by the end of his horrible presidency, Bush hardly divided the nation -- we *all* hated him.
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Cicada
07/15/09

@Dr. Nick: I remember 2004, when it was John Kerry who was THE MOST LIBERAL SENATOR EVER!!!! He was going to force good Christians to gay marry, and abortions would be mandatory. Plus he was a FRAUD who LIED about his Vietnam wounds (remember those klassy purple band aids at the RNC). And he was French, somehow (maybe the windsurfing?).

Yup, no matter which Dem got elected, this shitstorm was inevitable. People like O'Reilly, Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Savage, etc. are prominent media figures, and their entire careers center around screaming hysterically about anything the Dems do.
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ChillbearLatrigue
07/15/09

@Dr. Nick: I beg to differ. There were three Republican votes for the "stimulus" package" and one of those is now a Democrat. There were some blue dog Democrats that crossed the line in the other direction. Only 16 House Republicans voted for the Omnibus spending bill a few weeks later. You may not like what the other pole has to say, but that doesn't mean that the country isn't polarized.
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Cicada
07/15/09

@ChillbearLatrigue: But that also doesn't mean that Obama is the reason the GOP has swung so far right. The GOP lost a lot of their moderate senators in 2008, as moderate areas tended to go Democratic. The Republican party has been whittled away to the most conservative members. Anyone who doesn't tow the party line is drawn and quartered. Remember Steele saying the party might not support Snowe, Specter, and Collins in their re-election campaigns?

Seriously, the voting patterns of Republican senators have far more to do with the dynamics of the GOP than Obama's policy proposals.

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ChillbearLatrigue
07/15/09

@Cicada: Wait, when the GOP was encouraging the spending of money that we as a nation don't have they were "abandoning their principles." Now that they are trying to check the disastrous spending policies, they are "shifting to the right?" I'll take the shift as I wasn't happy with the Party over the past eight years.
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Andalucía
06/18/09

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Why drag Hillary Clinton into this? There are tons of people out there that attach themselves to public people in ridiculous ways (Remember "Recreate '68" that were a pro-Obama group who threatened to burn down Denver if they followed tradition and allowed HRC on the first roll call? Yeah. Fucked up.). Leave her out of it.
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Mediahohoho
06/18/09

@Andalucía: No, that was Rush Limbaugh. Probably attributing it to Obama because there is absolutely no limit to what people will believe about him. But that was Rush.

Not that I think she's involved in this current celebration of idiocy; I don't. She's got a job with a chance to make history.
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allyzay
06/19/09

@Andalucía: ....because the parody ad slogans that cajun boy posted came directly from a hillary clinton "fan" site, hillbuzz. pointing out that crazy super-PUMAs have joined into this battle isn't exactly an endictment of hillary clinton herself.

hillary clinton fans are really fucking sensitive, even the non-crazy ones...!
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johnnypotatoes
06/18/09

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That whole Hillary Cult is just so bizarre. You know they even give Hillary herself the creeps, what with their throwing their support behind .... Sarah Palin. I can't believe they're actually able to function in everyday life.
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Cookie Guggleman
06/18/09

@johnnypotatoes:

They're really republican operatives. Don't buy the myth of the PUMA.
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forwardmotion
06/18/09

@Cookie Guggleman: Exactly. It should be obvious.
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BxgrlJeri
06/18/09

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LET. IT. GO. PEOPLE.
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TedSez
06/18/09

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Feminist activist John Ziegler seems the perfect person to lead this women's-rights crusade!

Except...

"Several of John Ziegler's comments during his appearance on the reality television show 'The New Dating Story' have been called 'misogynist.' Quote: 'Someone who's informed and is rational...which I realize is kind of an oxymoron for women. It's true. Ideally, you find [a woman] with a manageable degree of irrationality.' "

Oh, and also....

"On December 1, 2007, one day after a peacefully resolved hostage situation at a Hillary Clinton campaign office in New Hampshire, Ziegler made the following remarks while introducing Fred Thompson at an event in California: 'In case you missed it, some nut job broke in [Clinton's campaign office] and took hostages and apparently threatened to blow himself up unless he got a chance to speak to Hillary. Now, I found this rather odd because I always feel like blowing myself up after I hear Hillary Clinton speak.' FoxNews.com described the remark as 'unfettered nastiness.' "

Yep, way to choose the right side in the culture wars.
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BxgrlJeri
06/18/09

@TedSez: I would pay good money to see him blow himself up.
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budy920
06/18/09

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hey - not fair to drag hillary into this mess - these PUMA's were not disenfranchised Hillary supporters-
get it correct!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Helman
06/18/09

@budy920: Yes, I agree!!!!!
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Cicada
06/18/09

@budy920: Well, that's what they claim to be. And the PUMA websites were up and running during the Dem primaries, when they were dedicated to bashing Obama and supporting Hillary's push to Denver (in fact, PUMAPAC organized anti-Obama protests in Denver). And it's the same people running the websites now as back then. So ummmm.... yeah.

I'm not saying that they represent the majority of Hillary supporters (or even a significant minority), but claiming they weren't Hillary supporters just doesn't make sense. I mean, we all want to disown our batshit crazy uncle with the funny ideas about Jews running the CIA, but that doesn't mean he isn't our uncle.

Or is that just me?
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allyzay
06/19/09

@budy920: well, i mean, technically, yes, these people are "disenfranchised" (i think you guys mean disgrunted?) hillary supporters by their very own definition so wtf are you talking about?
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forwardmotion
06/18/09

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Anyone (and I don't think there were that many, to be honest) who made the leap from Hillary to McCain in the election could have never been a Hill supporter in the first place. I mean, did they actually look at any of her policy ideas? No. So I call bullshit.
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Hey_mikey
06/18/09

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Hey, I laughed while reading these comments. You guys are all sexist!
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Moff
06/18/09

@Hey_mikey: What's wrong with being sexy?
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leonleonleon
06/18/09

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I mean, it seems plausible that people who dine at Olive Garden and the people who take offense to Letterman's Palin jokes would be one and the same. It's all business.
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Dandy Darkly
06/18/09

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The is an elbow jerk reaction.
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misslinda
06/18/09

@Dandy Darkly: Oooh! Kicking her when she's down! I like it!
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Nice Beaver
06/18/09

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I have an idea for them. Get a photo of a single Cheerio against a white backdrop and write in Bold Courier font under it "Cheerios: Each One Looks Like What Your Poor, Young Daughter's Asshole Used To Look Like Before Cheerios Allowed David Letterman And Two Of His Jokes To Gang-Rape Her." I've actually got, like, fifteen more of these ideas. Call me, Hillbuzz.
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Richard Lawson
06/18/09

@Nice Beaver: Or how about that Colombian coffee branding. And in the faux-ad Juan Valdez is punching his donkey, because Dave Letterman and the Liberals will donkey punch the shit out of Sarah Palin's baby daughter. Also that guy is Mexican or something so it's doubly gross.
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