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Mediahohoho
11/18/08

In reply to Obama Won Because You're Stupid
And more than 50% of Bush voters probably believe that the Iraq War clusterfuck was a justifiable response to the attacks of 9/11, which proves conclusively that our idiots are a helluva lot smarter than their idiots.

Trust me, we all saw the drooling goons at the McCain/Palin torch ceremonies.
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Oh No I Di'n't.
11/18/08

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I dunno, it seems to me that the GOP wins because a lot of people often vote against their interest so blatantly and the reason that the didn't was because the poor and middle class GOP people stopped being such dumb fucks for once and voted *with* their interest. Seems to me like, in that respect, we have a more informed electorate.

I'm just sayin'...
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LangleyKabolla
11/18/08

@Oh No I Di'n't.: Not in my state, which occupies the shiny buckle position in the bright red bible belt. A shit-ton of poor white sheep here voted for McCain, just like they voted for GWB before him. The flock votes the way their ministers tell them to, and it's always Republican because of guns 'n' abortion, never mind voting for a black guy.

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LindyLee
11/18/08

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Those aren't Republican talking points, but facts of what the voters stated and facts about what Biden and Obama either did or stated.

You forgot mention many did not know that Obama thought there were 57 states in the U.S.

The reason Obama won was because a good part of his voting base was not educated. In California, many who spoke ONLY Spanish came in, with children, who were telling them how to vote. One non speaking English man went to an elections official and asked him which candidate was the "black man." Yep, they all got to vote, though ten to one, were not even citizens of the U.S. Someone registered non speaking illegals in California...that is how Obama won.
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NotChoinski
11/18/08

@LindyLee: "The reason Obama won was because a good part of his voting base was not educated. "

That's the point. ANY winner would have a defacto uneducated voting base.
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allyzay
11/18/08

@LindyLee: haha yeah god forbid those hispanics are allowed to vote, right? if only it was like back in the day, when only white dudes were allowed a vote.
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kentuckienne
11/18/08

@LindyLee: I'll take someone who has a momentary slip of the tongue, quite probably driven by the number of U.S. states and territories that had primaries (including such non-states as Guam, Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the District of Columbia) over someone who demonstrates a real and frightening ignorance of the role of Vice President as outlined in the U.S. CONSTITUTION.
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strangebrew
11/18/08

@kentuckienne:

Yeah, I'm terrified of that buffoon Joe Biden becoming president as well:

[www.washingtontimes.com]
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tammyfey
11/18/08

@strangebrew: Pfft, you call that rag a source?
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strangebrew
11/18/08

@tammyfey:

Calling Joe a rag isn't very nice. It was his own words after all.

You should go have a beer with Joe at Kate's Restaurant.
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allyzay
11/18/08

@strangebrew: his own words were effectively correct. washington times is, rather unsurprisingly, distorting things here. but yeah, i mean i'd rather listen to a bunch of moonies than dirty, dirty hispanics.
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valet_of_the_dolls
11/18/08

@allyzay: This is the same genius who was sure that Nick Denton would be "shipped back to England" for publishing the hacked Palin emails.

In other words, has not been right about anything, ever.
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strangebrew
11/18/08

@valet_of_the_dolls: I think you have me mistaked for someone else. More Joe Fun Facts!

[www.foxnews.com]
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loosecanon
11/18/08

@strangebrew:

not only do you insist on citing thoroughly illegitimate sources, but like the original poster, your use of the language suggests that you're in no position to be critiquing the eduaction level of any other voters. "mistaken" would be the word you wanted there.
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valet_of_the_dolls
11/18/08

@strangebrew: No, I was replying to allyzay's comment about Lindy Lee. If you click on the @allyzay in the comment you can see which one I replied to.
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Mediahohoho
11/18/08

@strangebrew: Uh, dude, not to nitpick, but you're quoting a "newspaper" that is owned and operated by the Korean reincarnation of Jesus Christ (yeah, that one), who also happens to be a convicted tax cheat. Zero credibility. Biden was, in fact, right in terms of the traditions of the Senate. And Cheney, thank Moon, is going to fucking jail.
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strangebrew
11/19/08

@loosecanon: Yeah, it was a typo , get over it. As for all you clowns saying Fox is not a creditable source....Sure, they are water carriers for the current administration. If you are going to use that logic, then surely you don't regard the NY Times as a legitimate source either, right?

[query.nytimes.com]

Either way, what isn't open for debate, is that Joe has a long history of being a mendacious buffoon. Could someone please defend the comments he made about Katie's Restaurant, the US kicking Hezbollah out of Lebanon, or the little diatribe he launched against that guy mentioned in the article above?
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Mediahohoho
11/19/08

@strangebrew: Hezbollah didn't kick the marines out of Lebanon?

Oh, that's right, Reagan was President. He made the 283 murdered marines disappear by invading Grenada. Carry on, water carrier, carry on.
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fileunder
11/18/08

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'dumbening'? 'silent moronity'?

Welcome back, Pareene.
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Palmerlime
11/18/08

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It's common knowledge that a majority of Americans are morons... so how does this prove anything, really?

Obama won, you say? Our country has an idiot majority.

What's that? McCain won? Our country has an idiot majority.

Hmmm? A toasted cheese sandwich won? Surprise... we're still mostly idiots.

Doesn't change anything.
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MrInBetween
11/18/08

@Palmerlime: A toasted cheese sandwich would have done less harm than the current idiot.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/18/08

@Palmerlime: Such as?
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hellosunshine
11/18/08

@Palmerlime: Yes, but the toasted cheese sammich is delicious!

Which is irrelevant, I suppose. I just really like grilled cheese.
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NotChoinski
11/18/08

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I don't see how any of this is unique. After Bush's relection, I refused to watch any sob stories about the 40 year old single mother in Iowa working just below the minimum required at Walmart so she doesn't qualify for healthcare as her father loses his farm and mother falls into the perscription coverage donught hole and her son is in Iraq but hell, she voted against all her interests because Gays got married in Massachusetts.

If I were Obama's speechwriter, I'd challenge America to hold Obama responsible for his actions they way they didn't for Bush. But in return, America needs to pick up a newspaper and spend their 'American Idol' time to learn about the issues. You don't need to agree with him, but dammit, at least know what the conversation is about.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/18/08

@NotChoinski: Ooh, I like the way you type!
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JinxyMcDeath
11/18/08

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I wish we could make one for McCain:

1. Did you know that McCain graduated in the very bottom of his class at the Naval Academy...a place he only got in because of who his daddy and granddaddy were?

2. Did you know that Sarah Palin changed schools 5 times in 4 years during college? Seriously. Can someone ask her about that. It blows my mind because I can't figure out WHY she did it...

3. Did you know that John McCain voted AGAINST making Martin Luther King Day a federal holiday in Arizona?
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JessicaLovejoy: Laughing, riding, cornholing!
11/18/08

@JinxyMcDeath: Oh God, seriously with the Palin college thing. WHY? It's more of a brainteaser than "If it weren't for my horse...."
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Morales_Verguenza
11/18/08

@JinxyMcDeath:

1) Class rank included demerits for insubordination, uniforms violations etc. McCain was in the "Century Club' of 100+ demerits, which dragged his grades down.

2) Palin graduated with honors. Reasons for changing schools could range from finding better financial aid deals at other schools to being recruited by their basketball teams. Her transcripts followed her and her grades were excellent.

3) The rationale was that there weren't many black people in Arizona and Arizona never had Jim Crow laws etc. This story is actually a Bush campaign 'smear' dating back to his 2000 campaign
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allyzay
11/18/08

@Morales_Verguenza: ok, i've lived in arizona and #3 is a pile of horseshit. the rest i don't know/don't care about but give up on defending the mlk day thing (fwiw, the RESIDENTS of arizona also voted it down, multiple times, so i'm not exactly throwing the blame whole-hog on mccain for this one).
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JinxyMcDeath
11/18/08

@Morales_Verguenza: Oh sweetheart, you're lost!

1. You're defending his horrible grades by saying that it was because he was an insubordinate asshole bad soldier? HIGH-LARIOUS! Next thing you know you'll be giving people alibis for bank robberies by saying that there were elsewhere murdering people.

2. I like how you have no idea but speculated the most unlikely scenarios. Also, she went to some pretty shitty schools and had an easy major so her grades being "excellent" is a little relative...also, I've never even heard of her grades being excellent. Guess it didn't make the liberal biased news (or Fox...).

3. It's not a SMEAR when it's the absolute 100% non-biased truth. And you're absolutely wrong, he said he voted against it because federal holidays COST the state money and he felt that more Presidents should be honored instead. The fact remains that he didn't feel that MLK was good enough for a holiday. And he has since APOLOGIZED for that HUGE error in judgment. You probably should, too.
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SpicyMeatball
11/18/08

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#3 was about his first run for State Senate. The woman he was replacing decided she wanted her seat back after she lost her bid for Congress (despite an agreement to let Obama have her State Senate seat). He had her petition to be included on the ballot disqualified because of bunk signatures and he won unopposed. NOW...the only way you would know this if you read his book. It is hardly a damning indictment of the electorate's intelligence if they didn't know.
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NotChoinski
11/18/08

@SpicyMeatball: Actually, I learned it from the Frontline documentary. Oddly, Frontline completely ignored the circumstances of his Senate victory: were two critical elections without serious opposition one two many? The real 'miracle' was his Senate primary, which got him the DNC invite...
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Botswana Meat Commission FC
11/18/08

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I must have heard this Ziegler guy recently. He does this on the radio... have a producer call up some 7-11 cashier in a poor black neighborhood and pop-quiz people on defense policy and the U.N., then jeer like the whiney little high school bitch he always was.
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TheHonJudgeSmails
11/18/08

@Botswana Meat Commission FC: He's like the Michael Moore of the disingenuous American right.
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skahammer
11/18/08

@TheHonJudgeSmails: As long as it's clear you're talking about the nine-year-old Michael Moore.
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Pope John Peeps II
11/18/08

@TheHonJudgeSmails: Except the people Moore confronts directly are usually the incredibly rich and powerful, and usually done for a point.

So, I guess you're kind of totally wrong.
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TheHonJudgeSmails
11/18/08

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We should totally institute a poll tax or a land-ownership requirement for enfranchisement!
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allyzay
11/18/08

@TheHonJudgeSmails: see, the problem is, those are the ppl answering polls to begin with. we should do the OPPOSITE of that! tho it'd be hilarious to watch zogby and a homeless man duke it out.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/18/08

@TheHonJudgeSmails: Or something about XY chromosomes; that was fun while it lasted.
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Sproing
11/18/08

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If No. 3 is about Obama's Senate opponent, Jack Ryan -- he self-destructed after sealed files from his divorce were made public, and Obama was left alone in the ring with Alan Keyes. Which is a guarantee of victory no matter who you are.
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JinxyMcDeath
11/18/08

@Sproing: Exactly...which is NOT "getting your opponents kicked off the ballot." Unless he forced Jack Ryan to force his wife to go to sex clubs in Paris and then blackmailed him about it. I shouldn't even jest, there are likely some freakshows that think thats a possibility...
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strangebrew
11/18/08

@Sproing: Actually, #3 is about getting opponents from his own party removed from the ballot. Guess you are part of the 82.6%.
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NotChoinski
11/18/08

@Sproing:
@JinxyMcDeath :

Actually, the whole Jack Ryan / Seven of Nine thing was his Senate election. His first election was to state legislature, where he managed to disqualify his opponents
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Botswana Meat Commission FC
11/18/08

@Sproing:

I think it actually refers to his run for state senate, when Obama's campaign petitioned that his opponent didn't actually live in the district. Barry won and the rest is history... suckas!
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JinxyMcDeath
11/18/08

@NotChoinski: Did not know that. Good to know...Thank God I'm amongst friends...
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Botswana Meat Commission FC
11/18/08

@NotChoinski:

Well, no. He didn't "manage to disqualify his opponents."
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Sproing
11/18/08

@strangebrew: Who the fuck would know that who didn't live in his local district at the time? Somebody who's spent way too much time thinking about how to make Obama look like, god forbid, a politician. Good luck manufacturing your boogeyman.
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NotChoinski
11/18/08

@Botswana Meat Commission FC:

My apologies: I meant "successfully challenged the validity of his opponent's nominating petitions"
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Pope John Peeps II
11/18/08

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Well, technically all John Ziegler has to do these days is eat a bag of assholes. Because we won, and he lost, and he's sitting at home ordering Dominos off his tivo and wiping cheese grease on his dirty wifebeater, and handsome handsome smart Obama is in the whitehouse and liberal bastions everywhere are glowing with pride while they eat their roast ham, mustard and watercress elitist sandwiches and glow with happiness at every chew.
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TheHonJudgeSmails
11/18/08

@Pope John Peeps II: Who is this "we" that you speak of, my fine Canadian friend?
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Pope John Peeps II
11/18/08

@TheHonJudgeSmails: Hey I'm an obama fan too. Even though I'm way up north. We have a prime minister but he's white and ugly so I'm living vicariously through you guys.
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Gosukusan
11/18/08

@TheHonJudgeSmails: @Pope John Peeps II:

Not so sure Canada won, anyway - wait until he tries to hit us on NAFTA, especially now with the problems in the auto industry.
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Pope John Peeps II
11/18/08

@Gosukusan: Not really. Our auto industry is your auto industry. It's all the same company, so putting tariffs on GM Canada isn't going to save GM.

Also, there's no amount of protectionism that's going to save the auto industry as long as Americans aren't buying cars.
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Gosukusan
11/18/08

@Pope John Peeps II:

Ah but it's about keeping manufacturing jobs in the US - not having them up in Ontario.

Either way, GM is screwed, as you say.
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Pope John Peeps II
11/18/08

@Gosukusan: Haha. Well, I think we're both losing an equal number of jobs to south american manufacturing plants, which I guess run on baby blood or something cheap.
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